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Indie 103.1 in LA has signed off; will Pulse87 succumb next?

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MarcR

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Succumb, that is, to the awful economic circumstances we're currently enduring. I realize that the two stations had different formats, but I doubt Pulse will have the wherewithal to survive much longer either, especially considering its position on the FM dial.
 
you know, with all these posts about pulse 87 going off the air and not gonna last any longer, watch these posts backfire and Pulse will stay on the air for a good while. Look at Party 105. That station had some detours with Channelasting, flipped formats, and a threat of being bought out to business talk radio, and now they are simulcasting on 101.5 in Nassau. Plain and simple, Pulse is not going anywhere for a while.
 
MarcR starting a "will Pulse go off the air" post. I would have never guessed ::)

Indie 103.1 and Pulse 87.7 have nothing in common. Different format, different target audience, different owners, different business model, different market. What happened to one has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the other.

Bad economic times? We can say that about the whole industry and the whole economy.
 
neo11 said:
Indie 103.1 and Pulse 87.7 have nothing in common.
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Actually, both stations have, or had, ultra-niched programming and a very limited audience. I will, perhaps not surprisingly ;D, predict that Pulse will meet the same fate as Indie in a relatively short amount of time.
 
I'm going to run out of fingers to count the "Pulse 87 is dying" threads. I admit, I started one of them.

Can't we talk about RXP's imminent death?
 
MarcR said:
I will, perhaps not surprisingly ;D, predict that Pulse will meet the same fate as Indie in a relatively short amount of time.
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Like I said before, Pulse is not going anywhere 8)
 
lalumia said:
[bthis thread has more posters than pulse has listeners][/b]
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Hmm, from the posters on this thread that I see, there still needes to be over 500,000 more in order for that to be true ;D
 
I have to point out something very interesting here over the past couple of months or so. This is just being generalistic and in comparison to the other radio stations in the area.

Have you ever seen people VIGOROUSLY fight for an on-air radio station like this? Okay, so I may have had a "little" something to do with it, but I wasn't the only one waving that flag (as you can see by other posters in here). I bring this up because I really don't see people stick up for any of the other radio stations (with the lone exception for andreajesus for 'CBS) in the market. It just goes to show the high degree of loyalty people have for this station! That's something you don't really find in radio today. At best, it's a rarity.

Yes terrestrial radio has been, generally speaking, a sinking ship over the past 13 years since deregulation was allowed. To that, there are MANY complaints, rightly warranted, by what stations have been doing, not doing, what they did and should NEVER had done, and what stations could be doing but weren't whereas with competition something WOULD have happened. All this because corporate has "tied everyone's hands" and keeping things "safe".

Yes, Pulse has its issues. No one here has denied that. Is dance music "niche"? For the most part yes.....BUT NOT IN NEW YORK! Yeah, 500,000+ may not seem like high numbers. If anything, ratings-wise it's CRAP. If this was Pulse (anywhere above 92), with those numbers and low ratings associated with it, then yeah there's a valid point to it. When you consider all of the anomalies involved, to get 500,000 at a very LOW position on the radio dial is remarkable. The only other station down that low I could see getting similar numbers would be WBGO.

Personally, I'm actually getting sick and tired of defending Pulse only because the same things have come up over and over again. I'd still like for someone over there to say "what they can"....even if they e-mailed ME DIRECTLY ( [email protected] ) and I'll post it with regards to keeping discretion. I do think it is time THEY speak because quite honestly, the "usual suspects" ;) here have made their points and I do think we've certainly went "above and beyond" for that.

It's time for someone over there to step up to the plate. And yes, and you can print this note for the record, whatever gets printed here, I will keep the identity in confidence. I certainly don't want anyone getting in trouble over there.

BTW, remember February 11th. If Pulse is still on the air that date, smile :)
 
Tony, I'd say country fans are right up there in being loyal to their format.

Maybe not so much in New York, but in L.A. when KZLA went Movin' there was a huge movement with petitions and websites to bring country back to Los Angeles.
 
briancraig said:
Tony, I'd say country fans are right up there in being loyal to their format.

Maybe not so much in New York, but in L.A. when KZLA went Movin' there was a huge movement with petitions and websites to bring country back to Los Angeles.
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I hear that Brian!

It's sad, but whenever I hear fans of country music get upset that their music isn't represented on the radio dial here, I tell them to do exactly what I'm doing......form a coalition; make noise, get petitions, start up a movement. But it hasn't been done, at least not on a scale like ours. People thought I was crazy to do something like this for a music that I love, but has never gotten much respect in the mainstream; if anything, more ridicule and negative stereotypes. But in the first run of the coalition, 'KTU happened. For our second run, we got Pulse 87. However, unlike 'KTU where we disbanded the coalition afterwards, we have stayed PUT this time around.

There APPEARED to be a country music movement going on here just after 'KTU launched. I remember line dancing (ME! dressed up like I was ready to hit Zachary's (a dance club in Long Island) and had nothing cowboy on! lol) at the Nassau Country Inn in New Hyde Park, and for awhile there was a "trimulcast" (3 stations in the area on 107.1) of country music. However, after the station dropped format, country hasn't been touched here since.

I would THINK (and forgive me because I don't follow country music) that this time around with many of today's contemporary artists (Keith Urban, Brad Paisley, Trace Adkins, Rascal Flatts) as well as the new generation (Carrie Underwood, Taylor Swift), that somehow country has mainstreamed to a point where a highly urban city such as New York would be open to music such as this. People were certainly cheering on Taylor Swift as she was freezing out in the bitter cold singing her heart out in Times Square on Dick Clark's Rockin Eve.

There IS a following here, I would say just as core as dance fans. It's just a matter of someone starting up a country "counterpart" to what we've been doing as dance music fans and the dance music industry. United, you can certainly do a lot more.
 
I agree Tony and I think the time is right for a country station in New York.

It would certainly do better than WRXP.

I don't really think your Dance coalition's job should be considered finished until you get a dance format on one of the signals that covers the whole New York metro.
 
briancraig said:
I don't really think your Dance coalition's job should be considered finished until you get a dance format on one of the signals that covers the whole New York metro.
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Actually, even though we may say "New York", we really are about the U.S. as a whole. And even if we do get a current dance station somewhere above 92 that has a strong signal, our job still would not be finished. Not until other cities start launching similar formats and that dance music as a whole gets the same respect as other contemporary genres of music. In order to get that respect we have to fight for it. :)
 
Tony Santiago said:
briancraig said:
I don't really think your Dance coalition's job should be considered finished until you get a dance format on one of the signals that covers the whole New York metro.
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Actually, even though we may say "New York", we really are about the U.S. as a whole. And even if we do get a current dance station somewhere above 92 that has a strong signal, our job still would not be finished. Not until other cities start launching similar formats and that dance music as a whole gets the same respect as other contemporary genres of music. In order to get that respect we have to fight for it. :)
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Hey, Tony - don't worry about Brian - he OBVIOUSLY doesn't know that you and I have fought VERY hard for our respective genres of music... 8)

Andrea
 
andreajesus said:
Tony Santiago said:
briancraig said:
I don't really think your Dance coalition's job should be considered finished until you get a dance format on one of the signals that covers the whole New York metro.
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Actually, even though we may say "New York", we really are about the U.S. as a whole. And even if we do get a current dance station somewhere above 92 that has a strong signal, our job still would not be finished. Not until other cities start launching similar formats and that dance music as a whole gets the same respect as other contemporary genres of music. In order to get that respect we have to fight for it. :)
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Hey, Tony - don't worry about Brian - he OBVIOUSLY doesn't know that you and I have fought VERY hard for our respective genres of music... 8)

Andrea
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Brian is not "hating" Andrea, :)

He has made valid points about country music fans and I agreed with him. And as far as the coalition goes, even if we get a signal above 92, we're NOT ending.....as long as I'm alive anyway. :)
The posts that he made were good.
 
d21ofnj said:
you know, with all these posts about pulse 87 going off the air and not gonna last any longer, watch these posts backfire and Pulse will stay on the air for a good while. Look at Party 105. That station had some detours with Channelasting, flipped formats, and a threat of being bought out to business talk radio, and now they are simulcasting on 101.5 in Nassau. Plain and simple, Pulse is not going anywhere for a while.
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Oh cool it IS on 101.5 ?I thought my radio was broken.
 
magicjellybeans said:
d21ofnj said:
you know, with all these posts about pulse 87 going off the air and not gonna last any longer, watch these posts backfire and Pulse will stay on the air for a good while. Look at Party 105. That station had some detours with Channelasting, flipped formats, and a threat of being bought out to business talk radio, and now they are simulcasting on 101.5 in Nassau. Plain and simple, Pulse is not going anywhere for a while.
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Oh cool it IS on 101.5 ?I thought my radio was broken.
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Party 101.5 would reach Queens if there were no pirate station on 101.5. But one day last summer, I noticed Party 101.5 was beaten up by NJ 101.5 less than a mile from Plainview. Well, 105.3 is usually strengthened in Nassau when there's tropo, so it balances out.
 
Tony Santiago said:
But in the first run of the coalition, 'KTU happened. For our second run, we got Pulse 87.
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Tony,

You don't really believe that the coalition got those stations on the air do you?

jp
 
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