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How come indie 1031 wont do the same thing 99x did? Which is come back on a translator station and broadcast their internet feed on the forementioned translator station.
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musicfan101 said:
There aren't any available translator facilites and frequencies are scarce. EMF and KTLW have some translators nearby, but that's it.
You cannot simply rebroadcast an internet feed on a translator. Translators must rebroadcast an existing station. There are several other rules I can get into....Check out www.fcc.gov.
The translator in the Atlanta area (W250BC 97.9) is rebroadcasting an HD2 Channel of one of their full powered FMs. It's a loophole in the law ony a few broadcasters are taking advantage of. I know of one other up in Oregon with Jefferson Public Radio.
Too bad...EMF took so many frequencies away...Now with AM stations soon being able to use them in the guise "filling in holes" LOL...Many AM operators are going to exploit this in the smaller markets and simply use them as FM extensions.
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does entravision have any full powered fm's? or for that matter own a translator? or which stations in la have the same?Michael Rivers Kramer said:
Has Entravision even put Indie on the HD 2 signal of 103.1?
It seems that either they're going to give up the Indie brand soon to another owner or their going to bring it back to FM somehow. It seems very odd that they'd broadcast a station online and spend time and effort on personalities, getting some ads, shows and the website itself and not use HD technology to get it out.
It seems that either they're going to give up the Indie brand soon to another owner or their going to bring it back to FM somehow. It seems very odd that they'd broadcast a station online and spend time and effort on personalities, getting some ads, shows and the website itself and not use HD technology to get it out.
musicfan101 said:
Entravision has lots of full power facilities, but just not in LA. And Entravision's LA KSSE has an on-channel booster in the SFV with about 1.5 kw in ERP, a significant fill for the coverage lost due to terrain obstructions.
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yeah, those ads are getting annoying. lol i think your theory was confirmed when they decided to bring back the concert series at the hammer museum.radiojomo said:
Entravision is predominantly a TV company with Univision affiliates in many markets. It is corporate's main focus.That's why anytime the financial grim reaper is at the door they sacrifice radio stations first and last year their outdoor company also. Indie online is being run with a sales guy/manager and the "music director." The on-air staff that exists is not getting paid. Some are doing out of love for the format/concept. Others are doing it to keep their name out there in the industry. The Hammer series was a hit by the sales manager, but not done through some creative stroke by Entravision. Te company coud give up the Indie name to another buyer in a heart beat. The station was expensive to run and breaking even. Gato on 103.1 will bring in about 1/3 of the ad revenue, but cost about 1/8th the cost of Indie to run.
radiojomo said:
They had it on 103.1's HD2 signal for about a week after Indie went away. For some reason, Entravision took it off and put the Dance format back on. Personally, I wish they'd put Indie back on... I mean, at the very least, couldn't they keep the Dance format and put Indie on HD3?
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So why don't they just - sell it?RBB05 said:
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In its best year, 2007, Indie had about a 0.9 power ratio. Entravision's KSSE billed nearly three times as much in 2007, and had about a 0.7 power ratio. Gato today has the same or better ratings than KSSE had in '07, so it would be assumed it will do better than Indie could in this economy.
musicfan101 said:
Same reason people who don't have to don't sell their house today... prices are low, and they may recover as the economy may improve that as it recovers.
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Hmmm, I see. But, why would they care about what happens to Indie 103 now? They never did, you would think they would just want Indie out of their hair as soon as possible. How about they sell it to CC and have the Indie format on 98.7? Great signal, better overall mix of music (wouldn't have to change it too much) With good advertising, I think it could work. "Indie 98-7" Yeah! Has a great jingle to it.DavidEduardo said:
I'm sorry, I am just throwing ideas out there, just tired of listening to college/public radio for good music.
Clear Channel was the one who paid Entravision to change 103.1 to Indie to eliminate competition from KIIS. (Remember the old KDL format???) Clear Channel wouldn't want to take one of fastest growing alternative formats in the nation and change its direction. If 98-7 started using the Indie brand, you could for sure expect more of the women and older crowds listening to 98-7 to stop listening. Honestly, what KSWD should have done after Indie left the airwaves was to take the place of Indie and buy the Indie brand from Entravision. I know for sure more people would have listened to that format than what they're doing right now.
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Oh yeah, I remember the whole CC and 103.1 deal. The only reason why I thought CC would pull a move is supposedly - from what I heard - is dying off, and I just assumed they would do this "to win listeners' ears back." I don't think too many of 98-7's demographic would leave - I guess if Indie went back to its original days when they played early punk, and specialized in that, they could do okay. I've honestly lost all hope with 100.3 bringing Indie back - I agree when you said they should have done this long ago, they most likely won't do it. They somehow feel the crap that's on there now would do better.radiojomo said:
Although I did read something interesting when Jonesy was asked whether if he would ever return to radio, and he replied that there is a station in l.a. that is planning something along the lines of what Indie did, don't know what that means...I'm gonna find the webpage where I found this and will post it here....
The margins on Gato are better thamn they were for Indie. Indie ran with a pretty lean staff. Te dollars were in the jocks and the promotional events. The PPMs actually went down for Indie up until the last few weeks of the station. Morning drive was actually showing zero ratings. As for selling it, for the right price there is nothing Entravision would not part with.
radiojomo said:
Not me, now I listen to Sirius 21 instead. 98-7 is not my cup of tea!
The PPMs actually went down for Indie up until the last few weeks of the station. Morning drive was actually showing zero ratings. [/quote]
Indie, for a low rated station, was remarkably stable week after week until the change happened. The weeks of October averaged 4200 AQH persons 12+, and week 1 of January was 4200 persons.
In mornings, the sample is smaller so the woblle is more, but the range was on a slow decline from October's high to a very low point from week 3 of December PPM (week before Christmas) onwards. This was coupled with a progressive increase in 10 AM to 3 PM which kept the 6 AM to Midnight relatively stable.
There was no 0.0 book in PPM from the start. There are a few occasional 0.1 weeks going back to the first Currency book, but the average was on the border between a 0.2 and a 0.3.
Indie, for a low rated station, was remarkably stable week after week until the change happened. The weeks of October averaged 4200 AQH persons 12+, and week 1 of January was 4200 persons.
In mornings, the sample is smaller so the woblle is more, but the range was on a slow decline from October's high to a very low point from week 3 of December PPM (week before Christmas) onwards. This was coupled with a progressive increase in 10 AM to 3 PM which kept the 6 AM to Midnight relatively stable.
There was no 0.0 book in PPM from the start. There are a few occasional 0.1 weeks going back to the first Currency book, but the average was on the border between a 0.2 and a 0.3.
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