Infomercials 'til Dawn on 77 - WABC

[Julius Leonard Marx]

Some of you have been complaining that all you could DX at night were George Noory, Jim Bohannon and a couple of truckers' shows. That's assuming you could DX anything at all through the IBOC hash (but that's another topic).

Now consultant and former Top 40 WLS PD John Rook reports our friend Phil Boyce has provided an additional option. All night informercials (instead of Coast to Coast AM). UFOs are out. Bowel Cleanse is in.

johnrook.com

It’s not difficult being unimpressed with the captain of the USS Citadel Farid Suleman. His experience as a bean counter doesn’t give him the expertise to navigate in the waters of the radio industry. As first officer to Admiral Karmazin, Farid dreamed of the day he too could command his own fleet of stations, until biting off far more than he could chew with the purchase of ABC radio. At the helm he found the seas rougher than he had hoped, with stock shares now at an all time low, Suleman has begun the destruction of a once great group of stations.

Mirroring the Texas based Mays mess by desperately grabbing dollars from any source, Captain Suleman has ordered the once proud flagship, WABC in New York, to program non-stop info commercials beginning at midnight and continuing til’ dawn.

It’s a precursor of what’s ahead for all of ABC radio. In an attempt to keep the USS Citadel afloat, in the New Year look for Suleman to begin selling off stations and terminating programming personnel. It’s the sinking of the USS Citadel.

Say it ain't so, Phil.

PS: I told Dale Jackson in another post I thought an established news/talker with a good signal could still do better with same-old conservative talk than with brokered programming. Looks like I might be wrong.

PPS: OK, this one does seem like a money decision. Not necessarily a good decision but a money decision.

 

[jimwalsh2001]

All right, all right. Let's be fair about this: yeah, it sucks - but I suspect Mr. Boyce had little to do with the decision on this one (which is the pretty much the problem, ain't it).

As for John Rook, I'd take anything he says these days with a grain of salt. Once he was a great programmer; now he's just another schlub vying for a little attention...along with the rest of us...

 

[dustintv]

Indeed Mr. Boyce has made the annoucement that it is not true. I'm always glad to see this board attracts the managers too to clear up any issue!

 

[Julius Leonard Marx]

Indeed Mr. Boyce has made the annoucement that it is not true. I'm always glad to see this board attracts the managers too to clear up any issue!

OK, you want to believe Phil and not believe John Rook. Nothing is "cleared up." It's he said/he said.

Mostly Phil attacked Rook and people who post on this website. And then said:

Ask yourself one question: Does this make sense?

Yes, Phil, it does. You've already done it on the weekends. The company's financial performance is poor. It has undertaken a huge debt to acquire ABC Radio. Yes, this kind of desperation play makes sense, especially for a numbers guy with no sense of programming.

And Phil left himself a nice loophole. He said it hasn't happened. He did not make a Sherman-esque statement and say it would not ever - ever - happen under any circumstances. (An affidavit to that effect would be nice.) PDs and others in broadcasting have a history of denying that what they're planning is being planned; it's not going to happen until it does happen.

Phil suggested (as another poster paraphrased) that people think for themselves. OK, don't take his word for it. Mine. Or anybody else's. Think for yourself.

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,88271.20.html

 

[dustintv]

If Coast to Coast is replace within the next few months with infomericials we could say we were mislead. On the other hand, if Coast to Coast is still there on two years from now, we could say John Rook mislead us. We'll just have to see what happens.

 

[Julius Leonard Marx]

If Coast to Coast is replace within the next few months with infomericials we could say we were mislead. On the other hand, if Coast to Coast is still there on two years from now, we could say John Rook mislead us. We'll just have to see what happens.

Absolutely.

 

[cm454]

I can honestly say that replacing Coast to Coast with infomercials is like replacing Hitler with Stalin.

Both quite unlistenable...if you have a brain.

 

[Phil Boyce]

Say it ain't so, Phil.

It ain't so. But that will not stop you from telling more lies. In fact I denied this as strongly as a human can on the other thread (New York) at 11:30 am. At approximately 2pm you decided to continue to smear and slander me and my station by taking the post over here, meaning I have to come over here now and deny it again.

This is getting nauseating. I am now convinced that you personally do not believe any of the bull*** you post here. You just do it to stir things up. You post with a fake name so I don't have any idea who you are. I use my real name, so I stake my reputation on the line every time I post here.

Sadly there are enough losers here who think like you do that every time you post something like this the same usual suspects show up to pile on. I am wasting my time trying to explain this to the same 4 or 5 losers who will never get it no matter what I say.

So have fun. What will tomorrow's lie about WABC be? Maybe Farid will flip the format to punk polka.

pb

 

[Slant]

Phil:
I hope you don't stop posting here because a few wanna-be-I can do it better talk show hosts/ PDs that say stupid shit. I think its refreshing that we can converse with one of America's top talk program directors.

 

[Julius Leonard Marx]

Phil:
I hope you don't stop posting here because a few wanna-be-I can do it better talk show hosts/ PDs that say stupid ------. I think its refreshing that we can converse with one of America's top talk program directors.

Here is John Rook's reply to Phil:
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,88271.msg667064.html#msg667064

 

[dmargalotti]

Here is John Rook's reply to Phil:

In the interest of fairness Julius, why don't you post a link of Phil's reply to John? Oh, because maybe you're not really interest in fairness, or accuracy for that matter. I find it interesting that since this topic has been thoroughly discussed and rebuffed in the New York City board, you now lurk over here trying to stir the pot again. Interesting...and sad.

 

[Julius Leonard Marx]

Here is John Rook's reply to Phil:

In the interest of fairness Julius, why don't you post a link of Phil's reply to John? Oh, because maybe you're not really interest in fairness, or accuracy for that matter. I find it interesting that since this topic has been thoroughly discussed and rebuffed in the New York City board, you now lurk over here trying to stir the pot again. Interesting...and sad.

Because I just read Phil's reply. I would have thought the my earlier post would have alerted anyone who is interested to an exchange going between John and Phil on the New York board. But if you think it's necessary...

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,88271.msg667574.html#msg667574

And for the record, I saw John Rook's article on his website and posted it here before I had seen a similar thread had been started on the New York radio board. Had I seen the other thread first, I might have posted something here in any case because I consider a topic of interest to talk radio fans outside the New York market.

I hope people read both posts and any future ones so they can see the difference between class and no class.

Now that y'all know there's another thread, you can follow them both on your own. No more links from me.

 

[Phil Boyce]

I hope people read both posts and any future ones so they can see the difference between class and no class.

I finally agree with Julius. You will see the difference between class and no class, and you will see the difference between somebody who tells the truth and somebody who makes stuff up.

Since WABC is airing Coast to Coast 6 nights a week...every night but Saturday morning 1am to 5am, and you can see it on the schedule on my website, and you can hear it on my radio station, you can already figure out who is telling the truth, and who is lying. Even you, Julius.

pb

 

[Julius Leonard Marx]

I hope people read both posts and any future ones so they can see the difference between class and no class.

I finally agree with Julius. You will see the difference between class and no class, and you will see the difference between somebody who tells the truth and somebody who makes stuff up.

Since WABC is airing Coast to Coast 6 nights a week...every night but Saturday morning 1am to 5am, and you can see it on the schedule on my website, and you can hear it on my radio station, you can already figure out who is telling the truth, and who is lying. Even you, Julius.

pb

Phil, I did tune in last night to check and I did hear George Noory, although it was difficult through all the IBOC hash from WJR and WBBM. It's strange when a station I hear clearly during the day becomes unlistenable at night.