> > HAHA April fools day in July? Working out the kinks?
> Should
> > be more like.. working out the disaster. Theyve had how
> long
> > now to work out the kinks? - whatever.
> >
> > like anyone gives a damn about party 93.1 - they had their
>
> > chance and they blew it big time. Since they switched to
> > rock.. has anyone heard anything from their listeners?
>
> While your question might perhaps be rhetorical, yes, I
> still hear complaining from my contacts in south florida-
> friends I might add that are in the lucrative demographics
> that matter to advertisers. "they blew it big time"-
> subjective comments are more constructive when you back them
> up.
>
> > I remember when energy went off air in chicago... to this
> > day we STILL hear people talking about that station...
>
> When was the last time you saw a thread here about energy in
> Chicago? A lot longer than the last time you saw a thread
> about Party.
>
> > station was loved by its listeners... 93.1 party was HATED
>
> > by its listeners... BIG DIFFERENCE... nobody has ever.. or
>
> > will ever talk about a station that was a complete failure
>
> > SUCH AS 93.1... and failure because of the people behind
> the
> > wheels (not the format like they would like to blame it
> on).
>
> LOL LOL LOL do I need to point out the hypocracy of saying
> "NOBODY TALKS ABOUT XY, HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS ABOUT XY" If
> it was not worth talking about then why do you seem so quick
> to comment on a thread with your critisisms? I recall
> seeing many many posts by you about this station in the
> past. I find it interesting that, while this is a message
> board that caters to dance radio discussion, the party 931
> threads tend to have higher "hits" than other threads.
>
> > We don't have to abide by the traditional radio
> philosophies
> > and rules because we're on the internet.
> >
> > Like anyone in South Florida gives a damn. Nobody cares.
> > That station is long gone... and EVERYBODY already forgot
> > about it. They should have thought of this briliant idea
> > while in business... not after the facts.
>
> How are they no longer in business now that they are web
> only? Does that mean your streams are not a business? For
> the record, you know as well as I do that they would not
> have been as successful (and please do not quote ratings-
> they billed very well despite low 12+ ratings) as they were
> had they been more obscure in their musical selections-
> being off the air allows them to cater to the dance
> enthusiasts and to not have to worry about ratings as much.
> Their statement is valid.
>
> > they sucked. they failed.. what are they trying to prove?
> > They will fail at net radio also... sounds to me that they
>
> > are begging.
>
> Please see comment above about backing up your critisisms
> and then I will take those statements seriously.
>
> > Yes.. Im bitter.. because that was this format's chance to
>
> > shine.. A BIG TIME COMPANY.. WITH BIG TIME DOLLAR... AND A
>
> > BIG TIME STICK... and they totally blew it because they
> were
> > too chicken (BLEEP) to take any chances... They played the
>
> > same 150 song playlist for 3 solid years. This dance
> format
> > could have shined in South FL.. which could have given
> this
> > dance format an opportunity somewhere other than a paid
> > subscription satellite service.... but they made it a 100%
>
> > horrible station to listen to.
>
> Now you are beginning to try to back up your arguments.
> They did not use the same playlist for 3 years- as it has
> been pointed out here, they were very cutting edge when they
> first signed on, and found out they made more $$$ by
> targetting older listeners with a playlist that played more
> gold and recurrents than you or I would ideally program for
> our own ears. As it has been pointed out here, they did
> make money with the station but somewhere up above they
> decided they'd rather go with a format that obviously has
> more heritage when the opportunity presented itself. It is
> business- that is that, it doesnt mean they think DISCO
> SUCKS or that dance music is any less programmable than it
> was 3 years ago or hell longer when they did 953 Party.
> They did take chances- Global DJ Broadcast was blatantly
> inaccessible to the common listener. They added/tweaked
> daily mixshows. YES they did not hire djs- while you did
> not bring up that point I think that would have made the
> station more money.
>
> > Now the radio god's are thinking... "If a station like
> Party
> > (in Miami, FL) cant make it... then no dance station will
> > ever make it."
>
> Not necessarily- Diva signed on after the demise of party.
>
> Thanks Party.. you just gave satellite radio
> > a whole hell of a lot of listeners in south fl....By the
> > way.. Delerium - "Silence" and "Castles in the Sky" were
> not
> > a break-out track in 03, 04 and 05.. like you played it
> out
> > to be.
>
> For all we know those songs test well in south florida.
> Program for the masses, not the dance enthusiasts. TSL is
> not supposed to be 4 hours, its about attracting the highest
> CUME.
>
Good Post!!..
> While your question might perhaps be rhetorical, yes, I
> still hear complaining from my contacts in south florida-
> friends I might add that are in the lucrative demographics
> that matter to advertisers. "they blew it big time"-
> subjective comments are more constructive when you back them
> up.
I can back that comment up easily. Where is Phil Michaels?.. where is Buster? - They are no longer working for Party 93.1 because Party 93.1 is now a rock station... It's no longer a dance channel. If they didnt blow it.. then they would still be a dance channel.
Their daytime playlist was AWFUL. You call playing Dj Tiesto's Traffic several times/day for several months catering to the masses? I dont think so. Playing Lil Suzy's - Take Me In Your Arms several times/day for 2 solid years is also not catering to the masses.
> How are they no longer in business now that they are web
> only?
They are <u>NOT</u> in business with these numbers:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=6m&size=medium&y=t&url=party931.com
> If
> it was not worth talking about then why do you seem so quick
> to comment on a thread with your critisisms?
Because I think it is hilarious the comment they they made on their website...
1) We did not abandon you. - WTF ever.
2) They sound pathetic begging for listeners. They have no listeners. They thought that sice they went off air.. that their so called "loyal listeners" would follow them onto the net. They didnt have loyal listeners... just like they dont have any listeners over the internet. So yea.. I found it amusing.
Those of us that live in South Florida get it, but many decision makers in the advertising business don't live here and quite frankly, don't get it.
If they had the numbers.. then I think the advertisers would have found a way to "get it".
At first (when the station first signed on) they had the numbers... South FL was ESTATIC about the station. They were playing cutting-edge new dance music. It was all over the news, in Newspapers, etc... but overtime, the station could not stay focused.. had too tight of a playlist.. and was just too damn boring to listen to... so it drew people away from it.
They bashed Power 96 all day in lame commericals.. for 3 solid years.
They didnt break out music fast enough.
They played the same freestyle tracks several times/day for 2 solid years.
They KILLED the music. They Beat songs into the ground until people simply could not listen anymore.
I recall
> seeing many many posts by you about this station in the
> past. I find it interesting that, while this is a message
> board that caters to dance radio discussion, the party 931
> threads tend to have higher "hits" than other threads.
Higher hits alright.. Everyone in the industry watched this station like a hawk because this was a big time company trying this format. Everyone wanted tthis station to be a huge success because it could be the breaking ground of this format... and they failed (see above).
> They did not use the same playlist for 3 years- as it has
> been pointed out here, they were very cutting edge when they
> first signed on, and found out they made more $$$ by
> targetting older listeners with a playlist that played more
> gold and recurrents than you or I would ideally program for
> our own ears.
Like I said.. they played the same ole' freestyle tracks SEVERAL times/day for 2 solid years. I dont care how old you are.. or how much you like freestyle.. you can only handle hearing the same old songs for so long until you get sick of them. THEY BEAT SONGS INTO THE GROUND.
They added/tweaked
> daily mixshows.
Did you ever hear their 5pm Adrenaline Rush Hour Mix? It was the same 15 songs played 2-3 hours before in regular rotation. Here is a sample.
1. Robi Rob's Boriqua Anthem C & C Music Factory (Original Mix)
2. Bomb Scare 2 Bad Mice (Icey Mix)
3. I'll Fly With You Gigi D'Agostino (Mix Factor Mix)
4. It's My Life No Doubt Feat. Gwen Stefani (WPYM Exclusive Kria Vs. Velez Mix)
5. Spin Spin Sugar Sneaker Pimps (Extended Mix)
6. Whenever, Wherever Shakira (Andy And The Lamboy Mix)
7. Red Blooded Woman Kylie Minogue (Narcotic Thrust Mix)
8. Do It Again Razor And Guido (X-Mix)
9. Rapture Iio Feat. Nadia Ali (Jonathan Creamer And Stephane K Mix)
10. As The Rush Comes Motorcycle Feat. Jes Brieden (Sweeping Strings Mix)
11. Hide You Kosheen Feat. Sian Evans (Sharaz Mix)
12. Breathe Telepop'Musik Feat. Angela McCluskey (WPYM Exclusive Markus Schulz Mix)
13. Take Me Away Mix Factory (Radio Mix)
14. Turn The Tide Sylver Feat. Silvy De Bie (Pro-Mix)
15. Exploration Of Space Cosmic Gate (Extended Mix)
16. Out Of The Blue System F (Original Mix)
17. Hey Ya! Outkast Feat. Andre 3000 (WPYM Exclusive Ulti-Mix)
It was basically their daily playlist mixed. Not very cutting-edge.
4 months later.. here is their 5:00 mixshow
1. Spin Spin Sugar Sneaker Pimps (Extended Mix)
2. Rapture Iio Feat. Nadia Ali (Jonathan Creamer And Stephane K Mix)
3. Take Me Away Mix Factory (Radio Mix)
4. Change On Me Cynthia (Original Mix)
5. Take My Love Kromozone Project (Florida Breaks Mix)
6. I'll Fly With You Gigi D'Agostino (Mix Factor Mix)
7. Naughty Girl Beyonce (WPYM Exclusive DMS12 Mix)
8. It's My Life No Doubt Feat. Gwen Stefani (WPYM Exclusive Kria Vs. Velez Mix)
9. Breathe Telepop'Musik Feat. Angela McCluskey (WPYM Exclusive Markus Schulz Mix)
10. Whenever, Wherever Shakira (Andy And The Lamboy Mix)
11. 9PM (Til I Come) ATB Feat. Roberta Carter Harrison (Breaks Mix)
12. The Launch DJ Launch (Breaks Mix)
13. Spente Le Stelle Opera Trance Feat. Emma Shapplin (Ulti-Mix)
14. Traffic Tiesto (DJ Montana Mix)
15. Days Go By Dirty Vegas (Oakenfold Mix)
16. Sandstorm Darude (Dive In The Pool Mix)
AND LET'S NOT FORGET.. THEIR MORNING RUSH HOUR MIX WAS THE EXACT SAME.
They also did not hire jocks.. which would have been a HUGE thing for this station. Those call in sweepers announcing songs was a very bad idea. It went from a dance song to some listener that you couldnt even understand. Made the station sound cheap and tacky IMO.
The only thing that station did right was the late night mixshows. Global Dj, Paul Oakenfold presents, Edgar V live.. excellent shows.
One thing i could never understand about that station: They were targeting the masses.. and they were targeting the clubbers... but in the daytime.. they had a very stale, repetitive, and outdated playlist... but at night during the mixshows.. they were bringing the heat with very cutting-edge music. It was like 2 stations in one. They should have made the station cutting-edge like their late night mixshows.
The station also could not connect with its audience. If they were targeting the masses... then the masses dont know a lot about this music... They needed jocks bad on this station.. and they were too stubborn to add them.
> For all we know those songs test well in south florida.
> Program for the masses, not the dance enthusiasts. TSL is
> not supposed to be 4 hours, its about attracting the highest
> CUME.
Those old songs tested well in South FL when Power was playing them years ago... but its 2005 now.
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