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Insignia NS-HD01 "Walkman" style HD Review

So the FM works great huh.....how bout the AM side???? Bueller? Bueller????
I bet those handfull of AM's that spent the big bucks for IBOC and continue to pay for the license are THRILLED with this device! Maybe it will make Savage consider turning IBOC on his AM (chuckle chuckle)....
 
vacuum tube said:
So the FM works great huh.....how bout the AM side???? Bueller? Bueller????
I bet those handfull of AM's that spent the big bucks for IBOC and continue to pay for the license are THRILLED with this device! Maybe it will make Savage consider turning IBOC on his AM (chuckle chuckle)....

I think that's where all this is headed - HD on AM just isn't viable. On FM, it's arguable whether it's useful or not. In my case (since I'm programming an HD2) I'd vote "useful", since there's no longer any room here in Central NJ on the analog FM dial for the format I program, and it appears that - very slowly - a listenership of online and HD listeners is beginning to take root. Fingers crossed, anyway.
 
Yep, we're going HD-AM. I wanna be on "the cutting edge!!"

And RF Burns is coming on board as sales manager!!! :D :D :D

(Hey - YOU started it !!) ;) :D
 
Shoot. I went and got the new Insignia.

I just had to see what was new with the 4.00.14 software, and see if I could finally find one that wasn't prone to intermod and overload. The result? It's mostly an improvement, but has one NEW major drawback.

The basic functions of the radio are the same, obviously. The radio itself feels different than my existing one with version 3.00.00 software; the buttons and volume rocker feel sturdy and the unit itself feels more solid. I think the older model, which people here have suggested may be (one of many) a defective unit, had flimsy buttons that often picked the wrong option (seek >> often activated the menu, for example.)

The display features the same maddening blue-on-blue color combination, but side by side and with the same contrast settings, the newer unit looks a little better. Darker, and not as washed out.

Now, to the differences:

  • The software version screen data now appears to include a manufacture date embedded in the numbers. Mine says April 28, 2010 10:25.
  • As mentioned in another thread, the retail box now shows the same mystery code as on the serial number label on the radio. This one is 10F22, the model with 3.00.00 software shows 9L24. Also in store were a few models (including a returned unit) with 10Exx.
  • Button response is now much snappier and so far, no missed pressed or wrong selections.
  • Station seek is now over 2x fast as the previous model. It's still not lightning fast, but it's fast enough to not be annoying.
  • HD decode is also a little quicker. The previous model was around 6 seconds to decode a strong signal. This model is about 4.5 to 5.
  • The signal strength meter now behaves different. It continues to function when decoding RDS, unlike the previous model. For HD stations, it no longer represents data buffering, instead continuing to show the analog signal strength.
  • When showing RDS R-Text, the background is no longer light blue, but dark blue, making the text easier to read.
  • RDS decode is a LOT slower, and buggy. See below.
  • Seek is not as sensitive as before and tends to skip weaker signals.

PROS: This unit does not have a problem with overload or intermod. After hooking it up in the Best Buy parking lot in east Memphis, the first station that stopped seek was one in Blytheville, AR (about 60 miles north). There was no mishmash of stations or noise, instead it was actually pretty clear. That was impressive. From that RF-dense area, it locked on to several well-out-of-market signals and quickly decoded every Memphis HD station, including the two class A's on short sticks further in town.

The battery seemed to charge quicker than the old model, although it did suffer quite a bit of self-noise when on and charging at the same time.

HD decode is a little quicker, but the real improvement seems to be on how it handles dropouts. The previous model would seemingly fall into a black hole, and take another 6 seconds to get audio back, with every dropout. No so with this unit. While listening to an HD-2 subchannel, there were a few glitches and gurgles when it struggled but minor dropouts recovered much quicker, sometimes in less than a second. Personally, I prefer to hear the digital go to pot before muting, especially if it's just a few milliseconds of lost data. It keep the interruptions from being too annoying, most of the time.

The station seek is over 2x fast as the other model. It was glacial in pace.

CONS: The RDS feature, which was not implemented well in the previous model, is now even more screwed up! It's almost totally useless, in fact. When moving, I got one station out of 10 known RDS-enabled stations to show up on the display. The rest either didn't register at all, or would display for a second then cut off. As far as I can tell, there is some bug associated with the PS (station name). If the PS is static (as it is supposed to be) the radio decodes no problem. But if it isn't static, as 99% aren't these days, it throws it for a loop. Some stations didn't register at all (no symbol on the screen), some would flash the PS up for a second, then go back to the default screen, and a few decoded properly. Whatever it is, it's irrelevant to signal strength. I stood within eyesight of one station and got nothing, but here in my home I get full decode of another.

The RDS R-Text and PS fields do not remain on screen if the signal is lost or interrupted, as with the previous model.

The seek feature, although 2x faster, skips over weaker signals now. At first I thought the radio itself was more deaf, but it isn't. A side-by-side comparison had them getting the same thing, but the old model is much more sensitive on seek.

The signal strength meter no longer acts as a visual buffer representation when decoding HD signals. The previous model, when a HD signal is found, resets the meter to the lowest bar, then builds up as the buffer fills/data decodes. This was handy for peaking the signal for optimum reception. The current model just continues showing analog signal strength as far as I can tell, which does not always correspond to HD.

CONCLUSION: Overall, it's a better performing radio than the previous model, but that may be because the previous model has some major deficiencies that are unique to the batch I tried out. The analog performance is every bit as good as I've read others have experienced on here and the HD decoding seems to be on par or better, too. Unfortunately, the wonky RDS implementation leaves a lot to be desired. While addressing the problems of the previous software version, they've introduced a major new one that is equally annoying.

Just to add, I let the radio charge as I took the scenic way home. After I'd driven about 100 miles I fired the unit back up and got right in the middle of a minor skip session, logging several stations from west and northcentral Alabama, including WYDE-HD (text but no audio). A few Tuscaloosa, Columbus, MS and Monroe, LA signals were booming in, as well. So I didn't get to really see how it did out in my neck of the woods, out in the country. Some of our "semi-locals" were getting hammered.
 
On my new Insignia HD radio the meter only works when there is no HD or RDS other then that all the bars are lit up. I don't know if that's a defect or not. If it is please let me know so I can exchange it for a new one.
 
chrisradioanimal said:
On my new Insignia HD radio the meter only works when there is no HD or RDS other then that all the bars are lit up. I don't know if that's a defect or not. If it is please let me know so I can exchange it for a new one.

If it's software version 4.00.14, then the signal meter should work the same no matter what mode the radio is in.
Version 3.00.00 is different, showing buffer/data decoding rate in HD mode and one only tiny bar in RDS mode.
 
Your right I used it this morning on my commute and the meter worked fine. The only problem I have with it is that a lot of the time the RDS doesn't lock. It will come on, then shut off, etc. My old one didn't have that problem. Also the battery doesn't seem to last as long as it did in the previous version. However the reception and sound quality is much better. I also love the new earbuds. The earbuds themselves were worth the 40 dollars lol.
 
chrisradioanimal said:
Your right I used it this morning on my commute and the meter worked fine. The only problem I have with it is that a lot of the time the RDS doesn't lock. It will come on, then shut off, etc. My old one didn't have that problem. Also the battery doesn't seem to last as long as it did in the previous version. However the reception and sound quality is much better. I also love the new earbuds. The earbuds themselves were worth the 40 dollars lol.

LOL I haven't even taken anything else out of the package. I'll have to check out the earbuds.

Tonight while on the road I discovered that the signal meter is no longer working on the RDS decode. I know it worked when I first took it out of the box, but now it's reverted to the old behavior of showing just one tiny bar.

I don't know what they did to alter the RDS but it won't lock on really weak or really strong signals as far as I can tell. It may be a bug in the programming because it seems like on stations with changing PS that it loses lock when the text changes. When it works, though, it works well and doesn't show garbled text like the old version. It's weird. It won't work at all on one station, then will flash off and on, then work for a minute or two.

Very frustrating, but if yours is doing it too then I can only assume all of the new ones do it.
 
Why can't anybody get a simple thing like FM RDS to work. I bought a Sansa (SanDisk) "SlotRadio" from RatShack, and I was surprised that it has RDS for FM, BUT, the 'static' large call letters from 2 CC stations here are totally wrong (show Kxxx when they're Wxxx), and it's about 2 point font size! At least Nissan car radios can get it right.
 
JohnnyElectron said:
Why can't anybody get a simple thing like FM RDS to work. I bought a Sansa (SanDisk) "SlotRadio" from RatShack, and I was surprised that it has RDS for FM, BUT, the 'static' large call letters from 2 CC stations here are totally wrong (show Kxxx when they're Wxxx), and it's about 2 point font size! At least Nissan car radios can get it right.

I seem to recall a thread in the Memphis section where someone complained about the PI that identifies each station, saying that the Clear Channel stations in the market all show K-calls even though they're W-calls. Maybe the Sansa radio pulls that instead of the PS (station name)? Whatever is encoded as PS should be decoded properly by any radio. So that may be a problem with your Clear Channel stations and the way they encode the PI.

I don't think I've ever owned a radio that shows PI instead of or in addition to PS, so I dunno if that's accurate or not.

I've had several RDS-enabled radios and have had mixed results. The 3rd gen Insignia radio was slow to decode and often garbled rotating PS text, but it worked. This 4th gen is just loopy. My (Sangean-made) Radio Shack shortwave portable has a really hard time locking on RDS. But then my old Kenwood car stereo was pretty robust and snagged R-text and AF data pretty quick. And my Walkman™ cell phone's RDS section does AF and PS and I've had it decode call letters from a station that was almost inaudible it was so weak.

So some are getting it right. I was stuck in a rental Pontiac in LA a few months ago and it did RDS with R-text and it was pretty sensitive. I got a few Sandy Eggo stations to decode through lots of static while out in the Hollywood Hills.
 
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