• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

Interesting syndication discussion

  • Thread starter ChrisTheListener
  • Start date

C

ChrisTheListener

Guest
I hope I'm not breaking any radio-info rules by this, but I thought you all might be interested:

There is a very interesting discussion taking place at the top of the Dallas board. The original poster is in favor of outlawing syndication.

http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Board=dallas&Post=675532&page=

See what you think. Feel free to chime in, they won't bite. Or, post here about it. It's an interesting question, I think.

Regards,

~CTL<P ID="signature">______________
"Welcome to radio-info.com...where we hate everything!!!!! You people are radio's equivalent to the two old guys in the balcony on the Muppet show!"
~FoReal?</P>
 
You're not going to "outlaw" syndication. It seems that some of those posters believe that on December 31, 1995 there was no syndication..and only the ee-vil Telecom act convinced people that they liked Rush Limbaugh and not discussions of last nights city council meeting. If we're going to be "live and local", maybe it's time to dispense with recorded music and bring in all the bar bands to play live music. Maybe TV should stop airing network and syndicated programming (don't they have "local" requirements too?)and air nothing but local dinner theatre. 10 years after Telecom 96 we still have people thinking that the feds need to re-write the rules .."make them give me a job a a DJ". Syndicated programming exists because, like it or not, a lot of people like that programming. Yes, Stern when he was on terrestrial. Limbaugh. Many others. Do some folks really think a 1kW independenly owned station could drop ESPN and air 24/7 live sports talk in market #196? <P ID="signature">______________
"Your right to know supersedes your right to exist"..Gary Burbank</P>
 
Perhaps... but it does seem that a lot of the explanation for syndicated programming is self-serving, and it's not as if ESPN is drawing huge numbers on its 24-7 stations. Some of them don't even show up.

For an example of self-serving, check out this quote from the Salem Boilerplate Quasi-Secular News Talk Format Media Kit:

"The world has changed over the past 20 years, and so has the way
we talk about the news.

20 years ago we looked primarily at what was happening in our own
backyard.

Today, we have a “national view” of world events and the economy,
not just at home, but across the globe. It affects every facet of our
lives."

So in 1986 nobody talked about Iran-Contra on the radio, and in 2006 nobody cares about their communities. Everybody got it? Salem's deluded stockholders hope so.

The piece goes on to quote some examples of questionable relevance to talk radio, such as the ratings Fox News gets compared to CNN, as reasons to go national with talk.

http://media.salemwebnetwork.com/SWN/WLSS-AM/LocalImages/WLSS_mediakit.pdf

There was a lot of good local talk radio in the 1980's in the top 50 or so markets that got displaced by syndication. Just ask anyone in Miami, which had four all-local talk stations 20 years ago, and now has only Neil Rogers in English. Ask anyone in Tampa, which had two fulltime talkers 20 years ago,
and now only has one local host outside a.m. drive who gets shared with two other markets. Ask anyone in HOUSTON, for heaven's sake, a Top 10 market, which used to have some killer local talkers. All of these cities have lost local content to syndication. All of them had successful news-talkers in the past.
We're not talking about one-lung AMs in Bugtussle, North Carolina here.

> You're not going to "outlaw" syndication. It seems that some
> of those posters believe that on December 31, 1995 there was
> no syndication..and only the ee-vil Telecom act convinced
> people that they liked Rush Limbaugh and not discussions of
> last nights city council meeting. If we're going to be "live
> and local", maybe it's time to dispense with recorded music
> and bring in all the bar bands to play live music. Maybe TV
> should stop airing network and syndicated programming (don't
> they have "local" requirements too?)and air nothing but
> local dinner theatre. 10 years after Telecom 96 we still
> have people thinking that the feds need to re-write the
> rules .."make them give me a job a a DJ". Syndicated
> programming exists because, like it or not, a lot of people
> like that programming.

A lot of people like some of the syndication. Some of the syndication is liked by almost nobody. Yet it persists. Radio used to be able to cleanse its bad programming. Now it sticks around, like the "impacted fecal matter" mentioned in so many of its infomercials.
 
There has been syndication as long as there have been two or more stations to tie together. Back in the day they were called Networks. The stations of the day used the power of the networks to bring the best talent to thier audience- which individually they would unable to do. The same is true today.

As to the argument regarding the lack of localization: Here in Micro-Market America we have an FM and Two AM's all running satellite programming for much of the day for it's entertainment value. We have a regular compliment of four "On Air" Personnel for live morning shows - couple of hours each morning - a pair of hourlong newscasts and an afternoon show. The rest of the day we gather news, Do 95% of the production, Almost all of the engineering, do sports play by play for the local high school teams and lots of remotes - both paid and community interest. The "syndication" allows us the freedom to do all of these things.

We're not all live and local all the time, but we're out and about and the public knows where to turn for the news, sports and weather info.

Syndication can be a crutch or a tool. We prefer to use it as a tool.
 
> Perhaps... but it does seem that a lot of the explanation
> for syndicated programming is self-serving, and it's not as
> if ESPN is drawing huge numbers on its 24-7 stations. Some
> of them don't even show up.

That is a special case, as neither ESPN or Radio Disney are meant to be ratings challengers but, instead, brand extensions. Another example is Bloomberg's NY station... all marekting tools to support the brand, even if they do not make money hand in fist.
>
> There was a lot of good local talk radio in the 1980's in
> the top 50 or so markets that got displaced by syndication.

Actually, there was not much good local talk until Fairness got tossed out under Reagan.

> Just ask anyone in Miami, which had four all-local talk
> stations 20 years ago, and now has only Neil Rogers in
> English.

Most disappeared as they could not make money. I liked WNWS, but it could never make money no matter what. Same for WINZ. Interestingly, Miami supports a half-dozen Spanish talkers very well, with no syndication at all except some "live from Colombia" news on WSUA.
 
Sounds like you're doing a great job with your stations. Of course some on this board would insist that you have to hire DJs to run the board manually at all times.<P ID="signature">______________
"Your right to know supersedes your right to exist"..Gary Burbank</P>
 
> Sounds like you're doing a great job with your stations. Of
> course some on this board would insist that you have to hire
> DJs to run the board manually at all times.
>
Hmm.. If we ran the board at all times when would we cover public meetings and all the other stuff we do to be local?

To those whom you refer:

The predominate opinion is that automation and syndication are taking jobs away from radio people. Many of the jobs are still there but one has to be willing to do more than pull a four hour board shift, a tad of production and go home for the day. Those days are gone!
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom