Interesting times ahead at KABC

[RadioFanBoy]

It looks more and more as if Don Imus will have a new home, not only at WABC in New York, but the other ABC/Citadel O&O radio stations as well, come early December. So for KABC, it most likely means Peter Tilden will lose two hours of his show, Doug McIntyre will be offered another time slot or gone altogether. And if the deal with the Dodgers gets finalized, you're going to be hearing a LOT less of Larry Elder and Al Rantel come 08. Looks like KFI's numbers will only get bigger next year.

 

[BACKnUSSR]

It looks more and more as if Don Imus will have a new home, not only at WABC in New York, but the other ABC/Citadel O&O radio stations as well, come early December. So for KABC, it most likely means Peter Tilden will lose two hours of his show, Doug McIntyre will be offered another time slot or gone altogether. And if the deal with the Dodgers gets finalized, you're going to be hearing a LOT less of Larry Elder and Al Rantel come 08. Looks like KFI's numbers will only get bigger next year.

Assuming of course, that neither the Dodgers or Imus have an audience.

 

[nmoore6676]

We can be assured that Imus will not have an audience and the Dodgers have not scared off KFI yet. There is so much morning competition already on the air here a thousand time better than Imus that I seriously doubt that KABC would dump McIntyre for him.

 

[BACKnUSSR]

We can be assured that Imus will not have an audience and the Dodgers have not scared off KFI yet. There is so much morning competition already on the air here a thousand time better than Imus that I seriously doubt that KABC would dump McIntyre for him.

In your humble opinion.

 

[Shoot From Hip]

Where has Imus made a ratings impact outside NY, DC, and possibly Boston? Any major market outside the eastern time zone?

 

[doublecashkgb]

Imus flat out is an NY product. The show won't work in LA. However what has
Doug Mcintrye done. As far as I've seen nothing. He's simply not LA morning talent.
At KFI he would be fortunate to do a weekened shift. KABC needs a competitive
morning show. I would start there to rebuild that mess.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

I could not disagree more i think doug is good in the mornings.Was very dissappointed when he left red eye radio and got the morning gig.I remember when he started red eye radio it was right after the contested or during it 2000 election and pryor to him kabc had Art Bell.

 

[laitpapi]

Peter Tilden is live 11 PM to 2 AM. His show then repeats. No matter what happens - if anything - he would not lose 1 second of his show.

Citidel is cheap. Whatever is cheapest to fill their airwaves they'll do. Doug Mcintyre nor Don Imus will ever get close to beating Bill Handel..

Doug Mcintyre has incredible knowledge on many subjects but needs a better support staff both on and off the air.

Considering who is in charge at KABC it is hard to believe their ratings aren't even lower.

 

[BACKnUSSR]

Where has Imus made a ratings impact outside NY, DC, and possibly Boston? Any major market outside the eastern time zone?

Not a good comparison, Imus hasn't had the opportunity to perform on a top tier station like KABC,
besides we're ALREADY talking about him!!!! Hmmm.

 

[Shoot From Hip]

Where has Imus made a ratings impact outside NY, DC, and possibly Boston? Any major market outside the eastern time zone?

Not a good comparison, Imus hasn't had the opportunity to perform on a top tier station like KABC,
besides we're ALREADY talking about him!!!! Hmmm.

Sorry to disagree. Good programming finds an audience. There's no track record outside NY and possibly one or two other east coast markets to warrant taking that kind of risk in morning drive. And by the way...KABC currently ranks 15th in the market (with something like 65% of their audience 55+); does that fit in your definition of "top tier"?

 

[BACKnUSSR]

Where has Imus made a ratings impact outside NY, DC, and possibly Boston? Any major market outside the eastern time zone?

Not a good comparison, Imus hasn't had the opportunity to perform on a top tier station like KABC,
besides we're ALREADY talking about him!!!! Hmmm.

Sorry to disagree. Good programming finds an audience. There's no track record outside NY and possibly one or two other east coast markets to warrant taking that kind of risk in morning drive. And by the way...KABC currently ranks 15th in the market (with something like 65% of their audience 55+); does that fit in your definition of "top tier"?

Well, I do disagree. Stern had no track record in Philly or L.A. or in many of the markets he absolutely dominated in. So to use that as the "final criteria" would be a mistake. Putting Don Imus in morning drive isn't exactly "risky" for a number 15 ranked station.
And yes, I would certainly define KABC in Los Angeles as a Top Tier outlet for a syndicated show, it can easily be sold and will cover the market well enough to give Imus a shot at real numbers. Would you not define it as that? It's in the Top Ten of AM stations cume-wise in the country!

 

[davideduardo]

It's in the Top Ten of AM stations cume-wise in the country!

It's not even in the top 15 AMs in cume... even stations like WSB and WWJ beat it.

And radio is not sold by cume, but by AQH persons expressed as ratings points.

 

[Bianco500]

Here's the real question that should be asked

When does Citadel move KABC, WABC, and WLS to the FM side?

It WILL happen, and KFI and KNX will make moves too.

 

[BACKnUSSR]

It's in the Top Ten of AM stations cume-wise in the country!

It's not even in the top 15 AMs in cume... even stations like WSB and WWJ beat it.

And radio is not sold by cume, but by AQH persons expressed as ratings points.

Thanks. I'm well aware of how its sold.

 

[nmoore6676]

Putting Don Imus in morning drive isn't exactly "risky" for a number 15 ranked station.

If they want to sink lower than KMZT, classical music on AM1260. If they want to try and knock off Bill Handel, there is no chance for Imus. Actually I doubt that any known talent from any market could do that.

 

[Shoot From Hip]

Stern had no track record in Philly or L.A. or in many of the markets he absolutely dominated in.

However, Imus DOES have a track record in Los Angeles from his previous time here in syndication. It didn't work. And please don't say it's because he was on a second-tier radio station. That's not the reason. His content is east-coast in focus and it simply never caught on in a market where there's too much other compelling content.

 

[david]

Doug Mcintyre has incredible knowledge on many subjects but needs a better support staff both on and off the air.

My KABC prescription: Imus 3a-6a, Tilden, McIntyre and Company (the better support staff mentioned in laitpapi's prior post) 6a-9a, somebody new brought in from another market who is live and local and good for 9a to Noon, Hannity Noon to 3p, Mark Levin live 3p-5p, Afternoon news package (similar to KGO) 5p-7p, Al Rantel 7p-10p, somebody new brought in from another market who is live and local and good 10p-1a, O'Reilly on tape 1a-3a

 

[Hunter]

Here's the real question that should be asked. When does Citadel move KABC, WABC, and WLS to the FM side? It WILL happen, and KFI and KNX will make moves too.

Well that certainly is a good question given the help that KLOS needs. But then what to do with 790?

I don't see KFI moving anytime soon. They are doing fine where they are. Where would CC move it to? 92.3, 98.7?

The big FM signal in town that needs to do something totally different is Movin', but I don't see Emmis going talk or news.

 

[Shoot From Hip]

Doug Mcintyre has incredible knowledge on many subjects but needs a better support staff both on and off the air.

My KABC prescription: Imus 3a-6a, Tilden, McIntyre and Company (the better support staff mentioned in laitpapi's prior post) 6a-9a, somebody new brought in from another market who is live and local and good for 9a to Noon, Hannity Noon to 3p, Mark Levin live 3p-5p, Afternoon news package (similar to KGO) 5p-7p, Al Rantel 7p-10p, somebody new brought in from another market who is live and local and good 10p-1a, O'Reilly on tape 1a-3a

Any concerns about the issue of Imus' politics being inconsistent with Hannity, Levin and O'Reilly? It certainly makes it more difficult to give the station a memorable position in the market...and might create the kind of problem WJR is currently having with pm drive host Mitch Albom attacking middayer Rush Limbaugh over his "phony soldiers" comment.

 

[Big E]

All these scenerios are fine, but you're all forgetting the possibility of KABC getting the Dodgers Broadcasts. That will throw a wrench in the current shows, not to mention anything that might happen.