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Internet radio and Ipods

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9BallRollin

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It would seem to me that all of the radio giants would shut down their stations and just move to the internet and satellite. I mean Why bother with tower readings when you have streaming radio. There will come a day when all you have to do is dial up the internet from your car and stream the station live and with ipods(the new transistor radio) you could listen to a stream live. Sorry folks but a lot of stations are already on satellite and streaming, why not move 100 percent to the web because thats where everything is headed.
 
> why not move 100 percent to the web because thats where everything is headed.

Because the technology is not yet ubiquitous. Sure, it's heading that direction, but the key to broadcast radio is its mobility and universal availability. IEEE ain't there yet.

Sure, there will come a day that all of us will have handheld Internet devices. They'll be the size of a Walkman, and will cost no more. Presumably, broadband will be free -- or nearly so -- and in the air everywhere we go. Folks won't, for instance, have to go to Starbucks or Holiday Ham (where I go) to download e-mail and read Drudge. They can do it "at home, and work, or in the car." But, again, we ain't there yet.

There will come a day when any format you can imagine will be streaming 24/7 for free. Want Gangsta rap in Korean or narcocorridos in Polish? You'll be able to find a station. Heck, streamers can even write an net interface so you can design your own station. But, we ain't there yet.

Media will become a soup, a rich delicious blend of flavors and styles from satellite, the 'net, and yes, even broadcast. It will be, as the FCC has called it, "nirvana." But, we ain't there yet.

The radio giants have yet to consider mass shutdowns because the current medium still has a workable business model. Heck, that's capitalism; and God bless it. Will that change in a decade? Who knows? But, we ain't there yet.

In short, 'net radio does not yet make money. It may one day, and when it does we'll have countless postings about how the evils of corporate America schemed it all to take work from DJs. But, we ain't there yet.

DE
 
Mr. Deadelvis,
I continue to learn even past 80. Now how does internet reach automobiles and is not that still radio wireless communications is full duplex ?
 
> Now how does internet reach automobiles and is not that still radio wireless communications is [sic] full duplex ?

It sure it. But, read what I wrote, "because the technology is not yet ubiquitous." Further, the technology to allow what is being discussed just isn't user-friendly enough yet for the unwashed masses (but, that's another issue).

Once we get to that point, perhaps things will change.

DE
 
You mean someday we'll be able to get streaming internet radio in our flying cars?
 
Free wireless internet access is becoming more and more available. There was an article in last week's "Comical Appeal" about the installation of free wireless internet access points in Southaven.

It will cost the city about $800K to complete by the end of $2007. They are installing access points on utility poles in neighborhoods. No projection in the article on what cut into the revenues of Comcast Cable, BellSouth DSL, and others will be.
 
> You mean someday we'll be able to get streaming internet radio in our flying cars?

I, like you, Rob, watched the Jetsons as a kid. I saw the grainy black-and-white films of our youth theorizing what life would be like way off in the future -- after the year 2000. I saw those flying cars. I want one. I'm still waitin'!

But, I just got an e-mail from my DJ brother who is an Apple afficianado. It is now filtering out that the newest iPod will be released in early 2007. The buzz is that this unit (Cool. I said "unit.") will have IEEE functionality. That's the sort of sea-change that's important in this conversation.

Now, we don't know exactly what IEEE functionality means. When MS introduced the Zune recently, they proudly announced it has IEEE. But, you can't surf the web on it; all one can do is share files. Yawn. That's one reason the Chicago Sun Times called the Zune, a "humiliating failure."

Oh, well...

DE
 
Hopefully someday technology will fast approach to where I can at least get on internet radio with my own songs for free(at least for now).
 
Internet 'radios' in your vehicles, in your hand, and in your house. Large radio station transmitters gone or on the way out except in remote areas. Everything over broadband connections.

10 years or less. You heard it here first.
 
9BallRollin said:
Hopefully someday technology will fast approach to where I can at least get on internet radio with my own songs for free(at least for now).
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:eek:

Oh. Ummm...hmmmm. For free, huh? Yeah, that sucks that *snicker* you can't get your music for free.

*giggle*
 
It's going to take technology a long time to get to the point where internet radio is in vehicles and most importantly it will take time for stations to do away with transmitters & etc. We already see that listeners are slow at catching on to the notion of HD radio, and it hasn't even fully developed yet. Think, what about those who don't have the luxury of having "internet" radios in their car, some still don't have one in their homes, and aren't allow to listen to internet radio at work (I say that, knowing people in that situation)..What happens to them, in the wake of a natural disaster? No where to turn for information, let alone entertainment. Radio needs to slow down a bit, it still has to work a little bit harder to prove to people that it's even worth it to upgrade from standard radio to something a little more sophisticated. With the recent cuts, loss of notable personalities, decline of good local content, increased ad time..the listener can get lost in the shuffle of the internal industry madness. I feel that way about HD radio too, granted our station has it..How many people have access to it? Sounds like a good idea though, internet radio in my ride? No more dead air from transmitter error? Sweet. I give it 15+ years.
 
The radio in your car won't be any different than the ones there now. There will just be a nearly infinite number of channels. Folks will catch on just fine. Just ask the CHR programmers losing audience to IPods. As far as the technology goes, there are already several models of 'receivers' in development. And the next generation of cell phones will stream video...this year or next. 15+ years? No way. Look what's happened in the last 5 or 6.

When that happens, the big transmitters will go away simply because it is hugely inefficient and costly to use 100,000 watts to deleiver a few microwatts to a listener's radio. That will take longer than 10 years, but it will happen. The big radio companies already know this, hence Jocks saying stuff like "rock 103 and Rock 103.com"

As for taking care of folks in a natural disaster...since when did the big companies start caring about that again? Crap, WREC ran yesterday's forecast this afternoon. It might have been mid 50s at Thousand Oaks, but it was 25 in Millington.
 
I am a network administrator who supports about 100+ users. About 2 years ago when I worked on a users PC, just about everyone would be listening to FM100 or WRVR. Now that has changed with the Internet. Now when I go to a user’s desk, a terrestrial radio is no longer there, each user is listening to Internet music, talk, or even a Sirius or XM portable. In automobiles, majority or people I know have Sirius.

I think corporate radio is the blame for this. The greed is catching up with them. Once there was great talent on terrestrial radio (i.e., Howard, Rick Dees), now you find this talent on satellite and in some cases Internet broadcasts. During the 70 and 80’s, terrestrial radio was fun to listen to; great contests, talent, and music. Now there is dead air, horrible music, poor traffic reports, and political talk radio.

Each car manufacture is aligned with one of the 2 satellite providers and this is going to have an effect on local radio.

I have had Sirius radio for about 3 years, and only listen to Memphis radio for traffic and weather reports. Once Sirius gets Memphis traffic, then there is no reason for me to listen to Memphis radio.

I do see WiFi, 3G or satellite radio in each car within the next 5-10 years.
 
There is a current parallel here.... Over-the-air HD TV broadcasts.

The FCC has mandated a date (2009?) when all analog TV broadcasts must cease. But there are no Best Buy, Circuit City, or Radio Shack ads promoting stand-alone HD receivers / converters to keep your standard TV viable.

But then, the government will take care of us... won't it??? (he asks sarcastically)
 
All good touchpoints, but we can't forget that all of this stuff is still a LUXURY.. satellite radio, wifi, even basic internet is a luxary to have in the first place. If you can afford it and are tired of terrestrial radio, then get it and make those investments, but looking at many US cities as a whole and the state of the economy, lot of folk can't even afford simple cable, let alone a fancy gas guzzling ride with lots of bells and whistles.. I think terrs. radio will be around to continue to service the average-working class American, in some shape, form, or fashion. 'RVR and WMC may never see to numbers they once held because of this, on the other token community orientated stations that understand it's about the pulse of the city like 'DIA, KJMS, WQOX could possibly stand the test of time and stay on top and reel in good ratings and revenue success. Not cutting any slack however, their demos can too still stray away from radio, to other entertainment sources. Again, it will be choice of luxury. =)

Granted, stations are promoting their website, but tv stations are on it just as hard..It's a promotional tool, something radio can use to stay ahead of satellite, ipods, and even other radio station..

IMHO
 
radio_head said:
All good touchpoints, but we can't forget that all of this stuff is still a LUXURY.. satellite radio, wifi, even basic internet is a luxary to have in the first place. If you can afford it and are tired of terrestrial radio, then get it and make those investments, but looking at many US cities as a whole and the state of the economy, lot of folk can't even afford simple cable, let alone a fancy gas guzzling ride with lots of bells and whistles..
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That statement reminds me of Alabama street downtown with the rows of public housing...and every freakin' one of them has a DirecTV dish...
 
radiosaur said:
Internet 'radios' in your vehicles, in your hand, and in your house. Large radio station transmitters gone or on the way out except in remote areas. Everything over broadband connections.

10 years or less. You heard it here first.
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Absolutely correct. I give it less than 5 years, in fact.
... Guesss who?!
 
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