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Steve Eberhart

Saw this and found it interesting. Does anyone doubt that it is a matter of time until mainstream listening to internet radio is a reality? It's pretty cool...the radio makes a wireless connection to your WIFI (or any signal it picks up...Starbucks, your office, etc) and streams just as you would on your laptop or PC. The radio looks like your typical table radio one might have on a shelf or in the kitchen or whatever. They even have a portable one.

Here is what the article says:

Many of us reading the coming ads for two new products from Tivoli Audio likely will experience a deja-vu of sorts. "Travel the world and never leave home behind" reads the publicity sheet for NetWorksGo, Tivoli's portable Internet/FM radio which - along with NetWorks, Tivoli's Internet/FM table radio - is scheduled for a late 2007 release.

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I'm looking forward to that. Do you have any idea how much it will cost? That sort of thing is often pretty expensive to start with, than drops drastically when it starts getting popular.

The variety on internet radio is incredable. If you're interested in religious programing for example, you can find Southern Gospel, Black Gospel, Traditional Hymns, Contemporary Christian, Christian Rock, Holy Hip-Hop and even Temple of Satan on the internet. And the variety of music is even greater. Literally every thing, alphabetically, from Acid House to Zouk. [And you know how hard it is to find Zouk on AM or FM in Texas :) ] And that's just on Live365. There are lots of independents and other groups. And lots of local station, and not all of them in big cities, are streaming. That means that when you go on a trip, just about anywhere in the world, you can still listen to your home town station.
 
Why not?History repeats itself. In 1930, some Tv broadcasts were done and some receivers were just about to be manufactured until something called WW2 came along a few years later. Its a new toy and would give satellite radio some competition.
 
If you like all that variety on the internet, better let your Senators and Congress person know about it and tell them to support The Internet Radio Equality Act, S. 1353 in the Senate, and H.R. 2060 in the house ASAP. This past March, the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB), which oversees sound recording royalties paid by Internet radio services, increased Internet radio's royalty burden between 300 and 1200 percent AND made that retroactive to Jan 1 2006! I have a friend that runs one from his house commercial and donation free and he along with hundreds of others will have to shut down.
 
Yep.. and this only further decreases the chance of KEOM getting its entire programming back online. And I presume this will also affect all the other non-comm streamers like KNTU, KETS (or whatever the calls are for that East Texas State college station).

R
 
If Internet radio survives the July 15 "drop dead" date, (and I think some will) I think it has a bright future. I purchased a Roku Internet Radio a few months ago at a computer store in Richardson. It is a very cool device. It works with either a hard-wired Ethernet connection or through a wireless Internet card, which is included. I have Wi-Fi in my home. All I had to do was connect it to an aux input on my stereo and start enjoying a ton of interesting stations.

My Mother-In-Law could run this thing. It's that easy. It has a handy wireless remote control and a nice text display on the front panel. It is not complicated.

If conventional radio broadcasters don't wake up and remember that that they are content providers, rather than "lords of the frequency," then it will be an interesting battle. Internet Radio shows a lot of promise. Conventional radio will be with us for a long time, but it faces some significant competition in the not too far distant future.
 
Chuck said:
If Internet radio survives the July 15 "drop dead" date, (and I think some will) I think it has a bright future. I purchased a Roku Internet Radio a few months ago at a computer store in Richardson. It is a very cool device. It works with either a hard-wired Ethernet connection or through a wireless Internet card, which is included. I have Wi-Fi in my home. All I had to do was connect it to an aux input on my stereo and start enjoying a ton of interesting stations.

My Mother-In-Law could run this thing. It's that easy. It has a handy wireless remote control and a nice text display on the front panel. It is not complicated.

If conventional radio broadcasters don't wake up and remember that that they are content providers, rather than "lords of the frequency," then it will be an interesting battle. Internet Radio shows a lot of promise. Conventional radio will be with us for a long time, but it faces some significant competition in the not too far distant future.
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If they could make that work in a car, then it would be a real HD and satellite killer.
 
Isn't the iPhone effectively what you're talking about? It has a stereo headphone plug, and a Web browser. Plus, it can receive several wireless Internet technologies.

Use a transmitter, a cassette adapter, or an aux jack to hose it into your car radio.

But don't buy the one that's being released today. It only holds 8 gig. Within the year, I hear, a far superior iPhone will be released.
 
SmokeRing said:
Use a transmitter, a cassette adapter, or an aux jack to hose it into your car radio.
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Hose it.... ??? Uh oh... I think SmokeRing's going for a joke here... Let me see if I can help him out. :)

R
 
Hose it.... ??? Uh oh... I think SmokeRing's going for a joke here...
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Wasn't my intention. "Hose" is just another biz term for "feed" or "route."

But unintended humor is as good as any other in my book. So take it however you want to... :)
 
I have found that I can use an EVDO wireless card with my laptop computer to listen to Internet radio while driving. All it takes is an audio cable from my laptop to the aux input of my car radio. My wireless card is USB connected, so with a short jumper cable, it is easy to place it on the dash of the car. That seems to yield better signal strength than a card placed in the slot on the computer.

This set up works better than I thought it would. It certainly isn't perfect, and it sometimes it drops out, but it does not take a lot of imagination to think this technology could improve, and even be built into your car.
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I've been doing this for almost a year using my PDA/Smartphone running Windows Mobile with an unlimited data plan on Verizon's EVDO network 8) Kinda simular to what Chuck is doing... ran a 2.5mm stereo cable from my phone to RCA AUX IN on my kenwood. Can play windows media, real/helix media, and shoutcast :)
 
As with most technology, as time and usage goes on, they will work out the kinks, but I really think this is the wave of the future...it's a shame what's happened to radio......
 
Don't get too excited about the future of Internet radio just yet. It may not exist much longer, if the CRB has its way regarding royalty fees.

R
 
Robert Bass said:
Don't get too excited about the future of Internet radio just yet. It may not exist much longer, if the CRB has its way regarding royalty fees.
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Should I (or anyone else for that matter) desire to jump
on Shoutcast, and broadcast our music to the world via
streaming audio, we can do it, AND, we can do it for
FREE. I can even go to DynDNS and get a URL for
my own little radio station should I desire, link it
to my Shoutcast feed, and not even have to register a
URL commercially, and pay the fees. Again, It's all FREE,
if you know how to work it. It's VERY easy.

There are tons of folks in the US, and worldwide that do it.
Some broadcast music for a couple of hours, others do it
24/7. Whether legal or ILLEGAL it's being done, right
now, as I write this (just go to SHOUTCAST.com). The formats
run the gamut, from folk music to disco, to satanic death metal.
Trying to enforce it, and to get everyone to pay royalty fees, is a
ridiculous venture. Ain't gonna' happen...Uh, oh, "bad boys,
bad boys watcha' gonna do....the radio police are comin' after
you"..Why do you think folks do this anyway? So they don't
have to deal with all the regulatory BS that everyone wants to
enforce. It's free form pirate radio, and the technology is much
better than buying some old rag tag transmitter that might only
broadcast a mile or two, that videOchik would of course
track down... :'( With the Internet, you're worldwide.... :D

I (like millions of others) have a computer full of MP3's from
Limewire. Did I pay for those?. Nope. Will I? Nope. If there's
a crackdown, I just delete them. Viola!
 
theshadow said:
Robert Bass said:
Don't get too excited about the future of Internet radio just yet. It may not exist much longer, if the CRB has its way regarding royalty fees.
Click to expand...

Should I (or anyone else for that matter) desire to jump
on Shoutcast, and broadcast our music to the world via
streaming audio, we can do it, AND, we can do it for
FREE. I can even go to DynDNS and get a URL for
my own little radio station should I desire, link it
to my Shoutcast feed, and not even have to register a
URL commercially, and pay the fees. Again, It's all FREE,
if you know how to work it. It's VERY easy.

There are tons of folks in the US, and worldwide that do it.
Some broadcast music for a couple of hours, others do it
24/7. Whether legal or ILLEGAL it's being done, right
now, as I write this (just go to SHOUTCAST.com). The formats
run the gamut, from folk music to disco, to satanic death metal.
Trying to enforce it, and to get everyone to pay royalty fees, is a
ridiculous venture. Ain't gonna' happen...Uh, oh, "bad boys,
bad boys watcha' gonna do....the radio police are comin' after
you"..Why do you think folks do this anyway? So they don't
have to deal with all the regulatory BS that everyone wants to
enforce. It's free form pirate radio, and the technology is much
better than buying some old rag tag transmitter that might only
broadcast a mile or two, that videOchik would of course
track down... :'( With the Internet, you're worldwide.... :D

I (like millions of others) have a computer full of MP3's from
Limewire. Did I pay for those?. Nope. Will I? Nope. If there's
a crackdown, I just delete them. Viola!
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I''m sorry "TheShadow", but you are being insane and a fool to promote illegal activity like this. Shoutcast b-casters are responsible for paying royalty fees too. If they don't, they are breaking the law. It doesn't matter what illegal loopholes you can get through to do this. And there are other ways to prove someone is doing it, besides deleting all the audio files from your computer.

You can LEGALLY broadcst copyright works through services like Live365, at least for the time being anyway.

In the meantime just remeber this, a fool and his money are soon parted.

R
 
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