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ION adds another shopping channel

Stupid question, but does adding all the extra subchannels (a la Weigel) cause more tiling and blocking? WMLW especially does this, and 49.2 and 49.3 are sometimes unwatchable. I live less than 10 miles from the towers in Shoreview.

And another thing. Am I the only one who gets no audio whatsoever on WYTU's HD channel (63.1)? Not that I'm all that fluent in Spanish, but...
 
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FightingIrish said:
Stupid question, but does adding all the extra subchannels (a la Weigel) cause more tiling and blocking? WMLW especially does this, and 49.2 and 49.3 are sometimes unwatchable. I live less than 10 miles from the towers in Shoreview.
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Yes, though how bad it is depends on the quality of the station encoder.

And another thing. Am I the only one who gets no audio whatsoever on WYTU's HD channel (63.1)? Not that I'm all that fluent in Spanish, but...
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In December 2012, WYTU-LD had MPEG audio instead of the ATSC-mandated Dolby Digital audio. As such, some tuners will have audio, but most will not. I'm not sure how Weigel has let it go on like that for so long.

- Trip
 
tripinva said:
Yes, though how bad it is depends on the quality of the station encoder.
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WFSB in Hartford must have really crappy quality encoder. They have 3.1 which is the main station CBS, 3.3 which is their 24 hour news/weather station, and 3.4 which is WFSB Fairfield County and 3.4 looks fuzzy. The Chinese Restaurant I go to (which is not in Fairfield County by the way) often has WFSB Fairfield County one of the TVs.
 
tripinva said:
Yes, though how bad it is depends on the quality of the station encoder.



In December 2012, WYTU-LD had MPEG audio instead of the ATSC-mandated Dolby Digital audio. As such, some tuners will have audio, but most will not. I'm not sure how Weigel has let it go on like that for so long.

- Trip
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Thanks for the excellent explanation. WMLW's tiling and blocking get pretty grating after awhile. Meanwhile, other stations that have multiple subchannels (like WTMJ, WMVS/WMVT, WPXE, WDJT) have far less. MPTV seems to be the best in this regard, as all their channels look good, and even WMVS, which broadcasts its main signal on VHF, comes in well (they also have a UHF translator with the same channel lineup). WPXE seems to be okay, with occasional tiling and blocking though, but I worry that it will degrade even further until they run out of shopping channels to add. WDJT looks far better than WMLW, though ThisTV sometimes looks a bit sloppy.

And I have no idea what they're doing with WYTU-LD. Makes no sense that some people get no audio. Perhaps they assume that most people watch it on 49.4. Interestingly, WBME-LD (41) does not have this problem. If Weigel really wants to make their multiple channel concept work, they really need to make it actually watchable. They have good content between all their channels (CBS, MeTV, Bounce, Movies!, ThisTV, Telemundo, and an indie in HD), but it does no good if the presentation is lousy.
 
We now have 2 HSN channels in Central Iowa. K41DD 41.1 was the original HSN channel here. Now KFPX 39.6 has HSN too. Both channels carry the same products at the same time, although each station has a different 800 number displayed for ordering and there is a slight delay in the broadcast between 41.1 and 39.6.
 
FightingIrish said:
And I have no idea what they're doing with WYTU-LD. Makes no sense that some people get no audio. Perhaps they assume that most people watch it on 49.4. Interestingly, WBME-LD (41) does not have this problem. If Weigel really wants to make their multiple channel concept work, they really need to make it actually watchable. They have good content between all their channels (CBS, MeTV, Bounce, Movies!, ThisTV, Telemundo, and an indie in HD), but it does no good if the presentation is lousy.
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It seems like the LD's are pretty much afterthoughts because most everyone watches those two via 49.4 and 58.2, or via cable gets them off the fiber optic link since they don't get beyond Port Washington on the best of days. Charter seems to grab some stations from their fiber optic link, but WMLW still seems to be grabbed via antenna like they expect Weigel to pull their must-carry for that channel one day. Of course WVCY with their one 480i channel looks fine, though the content behind the master control is mainly taken off tapes so the video quality resembles the analog age there.

This TV seems to be an afterthought now that Tribune owns it...seems like Weigel is waiting out the string until Trib gets WITI and gets the carriage it needs to launch it as their 6.3 subchannel. It took them a week after the Tribune transition to get station identifications back.
 
Hmm...I've just made a Wikipedia search of my local ION O&O station and it reads among its sub-channels NBCUniversal owned Telemundo on xx.7. I've also made searches of other ION O&O's on the same site and they have Telemundo listed as well, yet I 'm looking at ION over the air and there's no Telemundo to be found...yet (possibly)--just goes up to .6 HSN. Has ION struck up a deal to carry Telemundo that hasn't been revealed yet or is this just another bit of 'misinformation' uploaded onto Wikipedia from unknown origin?
 
Mundofox Website and Wiki for it don't show KSMOTV as affliate but 62.2 Mundofox launches on 12-3 TWCKC 990 and is already on Google TV. Rabbitears for KC area doesn't show 50.6 and 50.7 yet.
 
MMVRBfan said:
Hmm...I've just made a Wikipedia search of my local ION O&O station and it reads among its sub-channels NBCUniversal owned Telemundo on xx.7. I've also made searches of other ION O&O's on the same site and they have Telemundo listed as well, yet I 'm looking at ION over the air and there's no Telemundo to be found...yet (possibly)--just goes up to .6 HSN. Has ION struck up a deal to carry Telemundo that hasn't been revealed yet or is this just another bit of 'misinformation' uploaded onto Wikipedia from unknown origin?
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Some ION stations (WPXA, KSPX, and KWPX are the three I've confirmed) are carrying Telemundo.

- Trip
 
KPXE and IONTV haven taken Telemundo off their Wiki site. Also on your site Trip 50.6 HSN and Telemundo as it's own channel in the future in St. Joseph. Also suggest under like 62.2 Mundofox it would show the Cable systems in the area and their channels for it if they have it yet like TWCKC is would show 990,Google a TV 79 but for like Comcast,Surewest,Charter,Sudderlink,Cable One and so on TBA
 
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