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Is Another EAS-CAP Deadline Extension Coming?

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TomZ

Washington - Aug 4, 2011 -

Now that the reply comment deadline for the FCC's third notice of proposed rulemaking on EAS-CAP has passed and the FCC considers how to proceed, a group of organizations filed a petition to extend the pending Sept. 30, 2011 deadline. The National Alliance of State Broadcasting Associations (NASBA), the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), the Broadcast Warning Working Group (BWWG), National Cable and Telecommunications Association (NCTA), American Cable Association (ACA), National Public Radio, Association of Public Television Stations (APTS), and the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) submitted a joint petition to the Federal Communications Commission to grant a further extension of at least 180 days of the Sept. 30, 2011, Common Alerting Protocol (CAP) compliance deadline. The group filed its petition on July 29.

http://radiomagonline.com/studio_audio/EAS/eas-cap-deadline-extension-0804/
 
OKCRadioGuy said:
They should extend it until the feds get their CrAP servers up and running. Call me in about 15 years...
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I'm starting to think you were picked-on by a CAP server when you were a kid...

Or maybe a CAP server stole your girlfriend in high school...

Whatever the case, you have some deep seated issues with this technology before you have ever even used it.
 
I have a resentment to making small-market broadcasters yet again pull money out of their wallet to fix something that won't get fixed mandated but unfunded by our goverment. It's not as much the technology as it's the insanity that surrounds it. They can't even get their end working right yet we have deadlines from the FCC. BTW, all of my stations and my contractors (except one) have already bought new gear. Over half have already been installed. The feds stupidity actually makes me money because stuff has to be put in. I have no benifit other than calling the insanity as I see it. It's just plain dumb.
 
In general, I'm also tired of the FCC and Congress using us as a punching bag. We've done a HELL of a lot more public service for our communities than they'll ever do. In fact, all they've done is rob from them.
 
Indeed. $5K Regulatory taxes this year for 3 small market stations. Plus $2K for the CAP box. Bunch of dang leaches.
 
And let's not forget their friends at the record industry that take tons of money away from radio too. Everyone just things radio stations print money based on what happened years and years ago. With all the leaches (gov't being one of the biggest of the leaches), it's a wonder stations can survive.
 
I wouldn't promote anything that might be construed as being anti-government; but 'they' should realize that the whole government thingie is on thin ice. I can't be sure if we should look for leadership in within the White House, either./


\until his vaca is over.
 
Yeah Tom. Something tells me our industry isn't the only ones enduring the stupidity. Other agencies do similar things. I just don't care to keep taking it from these clowns. It's time we made our issues known to the masses that radio "isn't the bad guy". We've done our part over and over again, even Clear Channel. Bad programming shouldn't be mixed with lack of public service and meeting our EAS obligations, yet the underlined idea with the Congress and some at the FCC IS that just that. New EAS equipment is just more of the same nonsense. Will the new box save more lives than the last one? I seriously doubt it. It won't do a damn thing unless someone other than BROADCASTERS start caring.
 
It's somewhat like taxing the smoker/drinker/gasoline buyer.... because they believe it will magically happen.

The only exception is that EAS compliance isn't a tax, unless you fail....

However, no regulatory body can impose a 'tax' unless and until it is litigated in a court of law and remanded by a Judge.


That's why we only need to pay a (notice of apparent) liability,. ??? ::) :mad:
 
OKC, TomT, TomZ-

Good points! It's really frustrating that many small station stations that truly serve the communities need to shell out another 2K. How about some grant money for those folks...
 
I see this differently. We're being given another tool to increase the reliability of the system. $2k is a small investment to provide the advanced capabilities and add redundancy to the emergency alert system.

Besides, who has bought new EAS equipment since 1996? Isn't it about time to replace the old gear before it fails due to age?
 
Jon, IF they truely use it to it's full potential and IF they provide real information to put on it when there's a need, I'm OK with the idea. My concern is that they won't. The feds and even many state and local EMs are quite frankly worthless. Some really do a great job, but there's far too many that do little to nothing and try to blame broadcasters for their backlash. Even the famous poster-child Fargo/CC deal wasn't CC's fault. Did the local or state EM have a decent plan or working relationship with someone that could activate their own EAS unit? I just hate to throw good money after bad if we are the only ones forced to play ball.
 
No comment about the petition for delay found here:

Released: 08/23/2011. PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOMELAND SECURITY BUREAU
PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO EAS PARTICIPANTS FOR THE NOVEMBER 9,
2011 NATIONWIDE TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM. (DA No. 11-1444).
(Dkt No 04-296 ). PSHSB . Contact: Tom Beers at (202) 418-0952 or
Gregory Cooke at (202) 418-2351
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-11-1444A1.doc
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-11-1444A1.pdf
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-11-1444A1.txt
 
Jon Scaptura said:
I see this differently. We're being given another tool to increase the reliability of the system. $2k is a small investment to provide the advanced capabilities and add redundancy to the emergency alert system.

Besides, who has bought new EAS equipment since 1996? Isn't it about time to replace the old gear before it fails due to age?
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I volunteer my services for a local non com, and this $2k hit to them is enormous. $2k pays their power bill for four months. There's only so much you can get out of loyal listener donations and t-shirt sales.
 
Ditto, Radeo. The existing EAS system as implemented by New York's State of Emergency Management is a bad joke. We all had to install Ku-band receivers, generously supplied by our own tax money, about eight years ago for state bulletins. The system carried a repeating voice message, to wit, "they took the crosstown bus," 24-7 for about a year. Then the whole thing went silent as new satellite coordinates were supplied which currently have NYS broadcasters' SEMO dishes looking at the ground. The system has been INOP ever since. It's been years.

In addition we were required to put in VHF receivers specifically purposed for local law enforcement to have direct access to local station operators in emergencies. A year after we installed ours the local County Sheriff was in to appear on our PA show. I casually asked Jack how his transmitter install was going. He had no idea what I was talking about. The County VHF links have never been installed, and the system exists only as a designated input on the EAS decoder.

Yeah: $2K is another great expenditure at the behest of government. May the Great Maker Of All Spectrum save us should we actually have to rely on this mess.
 
Try as we may as good broadcasters to "serve the public", those that are PAID to serve the public rarely do. Time and time again, there's shining examples of this, including your example in NY. Again, I'm not as unhappy about having to spend the extra money to buy new equipment IF the other players are really, truely participating. It seems like we are the only ones though that are generally bothering...
 
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