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IS "ANYBODY" Listening???

:-\ :-\ I read ,read, read this board and other boards, I listen, listen, listen to people, cars, boats, trains airplanes, worksites, stores etc and I just wonder if ANYONE is listening to any radio stations??? It used to be you could ride down the streets and hear different stations playing on car radios, hear it playing at the beach, in stores, in parks and other places. I don't ever hear that anymore? What I do hear is the Bump Bump Bump of heavy bass from CD,s IPODs cassettes and the like. I hardly ever hear anything live from a radio station. I travel quite a bit, so I know it's not just in my hometown of "Mayberry"

Personally, I would rather listen to old airchecks of great stations and old demos from PAMS, JAMS, DRAKE and the rest!

Anyone else have the same experiences?

BIG APE
 
Maybe once the summertime rolls around, there will be more people with their windows open so you can hear more.
But even then, most of them are probably going to be on their phones at any given moment when you see them.
Cell Phone Land seems to be where a lot of radio listeners have gone to.
Maybe you should start up a show so more people can listen to you in the car, APE.
 
To paraphrase Max Headroom...
Radio is an industry with a great future behind it!
 
People still listen the numbers are obviously dwindling

I think music on the radio is doomed. The art of being a DJ is turning into Vaudeville. Why would anyone hear crummy playlists with idiots talking about stupid news quips and what's going in the area (common knowledge 90% of the time) when they can customize their own playlist, with better audio quality, no commercials, no DJ's, and not have to worry about losing a signal.

I still think News Talk/Sports Talk/Local still has an audience and a need. The top 10 markets you still see great local programming on stations. I have family in Chicago and Boston and there is still a ton of local programming on those stations up there and it's excellent to listen to.

Radio has been on and will certainly continue to be on quite a wild ride for the next decade or so.
 
stafferman said:
People still listen the numbers are obviously dwindling

I think music on the radio is doomed. The art of being a DJ is turning into Vaudeville. Why would anyone hear crummy playlists with idiots talking about stupid news quips and what's going in the area (common knowledge 90% of the time) when they can customize their own playlist, with better audio quality, no commercials, no DJ's, and not have to worry about losing a signal.

I still think News Talk/Sports Talk/Local still has an audience and a need. The top 10 markets you still see great local programming on stations. I have family in Chicago and Boston and there is still a ton of local programming on those stations up there and it's excellent to listen to.

Radio has been on and will certainly continue to be on quite a wild ride for the next decade or so.

This is a very interesting topic. On one hand research tells us that over 230 million people sample radio every week, which is an incredible number. Yet, as Big Ape and others have pointed out, where are they listening? I spent a lot of time at the beach when I was growing up and it seemed like everyone had a radio with them and they were all listening to one of the three top 40 stations in the market. Now, if you trake a walk on the beach you rarely hear a radio station. It's usually music you hear but it's not from a radio.

Most stores have been forced to subscribe to a music service through their corporate headquarters. Smaller stores sometimes play a radio, that is, until the ASCAP or BMI police come by and tell them that they are violating the law and they'll have to start paying if they want to play a radio in the store.

A lot of offices have squelched the radios so that employees can focus on their work or not cause a distraction for others.

It would appear to me that the car is one of the only places left where there actually could be any time spent listening to the radio. But, have you noticed how many people are talking on their cell phones while driving which certainly doesn't make radio a very important part of the drive.

I suppose that there are still some people listen at home but even that's got to be a much smaller number than it used to be. Most of the at-home listeners I know are listening to talk rather than music.

As long as station owners continue to cheapen the product the less they can expect in return for their investment. I really don't think voice-tracking is a major part of the problem (unless it's poorly done). It's the stale, predictable programming that's killing music stations.

One other thing, isn't it funny how radio salespeople tell advertisers (and potential advertisers) how important it is to keep your name out there, be visible and claim ownership to their franchise? Yet, how many stations actually do what they preach to others?
 
People still listen to the radio in huge numbers...just not for as long a period of time as in the past.
To many other choices.

Anecdotal info and opinions voiced on a radio discussion board are not a good gauge.


Big Ape said

Personally, I would rather listen to old airchecks of great stations and old demos from PAMS, JAMS, DRAKE and the rest!

I rest my case.
 
,Surfdude is spot on. Plenty of people still listen to the radio, at least some of the time.

WUNC, the college stations, and 103.9 and 104.3 are very popular with niche crowds. I sometimes here 96Rock in the afternoons, and I heard Mix 101.5 in the background at the Dentist today. The Showgram on G105 in the mornings is widely listened to all over the area, and that won't change even if radio continues to decline. The real question is what does G105 and other stations have to offer people after 10?

Besides mornings and afternoons, local radio just doesn't offer people much. Sure, plenty of people don't listen to the radio at all. This is inevitable and will not change. But, I think more people would listen if they had something worth listening to.
 
54 call signs from PPM encoded stations received credit for five or more minutes of listening within a quarter hour from at least one PPM panelist during the survey period of Jan11 here in the GSO/WS/HP metro. That's Adults 18+, M-Su 6A-12M...listening.
-Greg
 
BIG APE, you ARE spot on. One thing about booming car radios/cd players/MP3 players is local noise ordinances. I live in High Point and there, if the pol-pol hears your stereo more than 30 feet away from your vehicle, it's summons time! (not to be cornfused with Billy Stewart's Summertime) I believe both Greensboro and Winston Salem hold similar ordinances too. But yeah, those were the days when you KNEW your station owned the town. All you had to do was cruise where the cruisers were and you'd hear the top dog blasting away in all of them. ahhh memories!
 
We've lost a lot of that "community" feeling and been split into niches and enclaves, even into viewing our own vehicles as "kingdoms" [leading to the extremes of both sides: road rage, and noise ordinances]. That's impacted radio and society in general.
 
We've lost a lot of that "community" feeling and been split into niches and enclaves

Exactly. If it's local, people will listen. You can't keep cutting and slashing staff, plug in a computer and expect results or get a great IMAGING guy. Not even trying to attack Clear Channel or any of the bigger corporations its just the reality of what is going on.
 
stafferman said:
We've lost a lot of that "community" feeling and been split into niches and enclaves

Exactly. If it's local, people will listen. You can't keep cutting and slashing staff, plug in a computer and expect results or get a great IMAGING guy. Not even trying to attack Clear Channel or any of the bigger corporations its just the reality of what is going on.

If it's local, people will listen? That's absurd! If it's GOOD, people will listen. Big corporation or mom and pop, if it's GOOD, people will listen. If it doesn't have a decent signal, people CAN'T listen.

It's quite simple.
 
stafferman said:
We've lost a lot of that "community" feeling and been split into niches and enclaves

Exactly. If it's local, people will listen. You can't keep cutting and slashing staff, plug in a computer and expect results or get a great IMAGING guy. Not even trying to attack Clear Channel or any of the bigger corporations its just the reality of what is going on.
But I think a lot of that we've chosen to do, ourselves.
It's not all radio's fault.
 
I'm painting with a broad stroke when I say that radio MUST get back to being compelling and entertaining. If that means bringing back AIR TALENTS, LOCAL TALK HOSTS, LOCAL NEWS and INFORMATION to make it compelling, so be it. Radio has too many viable competitors now for it to be business as usual. The corporate juke box programming is not cutting it. I can listen to any song I want when I want in whatever format I want without having to listen to liner-jocks and spots. It's a simple fact that people aren't listening anymore and why would they?
 
Radio stations need somebody like that pizza parlor owner in Upper Darby, PA who put mice in his competitors' stores.
Well maybe not exactly like that, but somebody who wants to win like that.
 
quadraphonic said:
Radio stations need somebody like that pizza parlor owner in Upper Darby, PA who put mice in his competitors' stores.
Well maybe not exactly like that, but somebody who wants to win like that.

That's how we used to win before consolidation! It was WAR! We used tactics that you can't use anymore! Why? Because your enemy is the guy right down the hall.
 
mediawatch22 said:
quadraphonic said:
Radio stations need somebody like that pizza parlor owner in Upper Darby, PA who put mice in his competitors' stores.
Well maybe not exactly like that, but somebody who wants to win like that.

That's how we used to win before consolidation! It was WAR! We used tactics that you can't use anymore! Why? Because your enemy is the guy right down the hall.

Enemies are things of the past. Like you said, it's all about teamwork now and what miniscule piece of the pie we can dominate.
 
It was funny to see the local broadcasters at the state conventions, or national affairs hanging out together and enjoying each others company, and then bad mouth and wish ill-will back at the station. Now days they sometimes have to live under the same roof and love one another. Consolidation is a sobering thing.
 
count me as one who thinks radio is pretty much over.
accept for a few stations I find nothing worth listening to on AM or FM.
for me it is Pandora, iPod, Sirius and a few stations around the country.
Like WTSB Smithfield, KLLN in AR, WKCL Charleston.
 
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