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IS Classic Rock dead in Raleigh?

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yankees

What is it going to take to get a Decent full time Classic Rock Station Here? 100.7 has gotta step up to the plate here or they arent going to last through this year. And 96rock needs to decide which path their going to take. Is it Classic Rock or Active Rock i mean come on Raleigh. I just wanna hear some decent Classic Rock here and not just the same 10 bands every hour. Curtis Media are you listening CC blew their chance when they [EDIT] with WRDU.


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Personally I hope Curtis Media is not listening. 96rock is classic enough without the crappy repetition of most classic rockers and people I know enjoy the infusion of newer stuff with it. Agree about the River. It seems like their plan is to be in the middle so they can package the station on ad buys for men or women. That never works. River PD has no CR experience and won't rock the boat. Everybody needs to eat so why fight management?
 
Classic Rock is dead EVERYWHERE! I do like the "deep cuts" channel on XM.
 
yankees said:
And 96rock needs to decide which path their going to take. Is it Classic Rock or Active Rock i mean come on Raleigh.
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96 Rock needs to stay on the path their on. It's nice to see a station taking a dead format (Classic Rock) and infusing some tracks that are "new classics." I am sure "Everything that Rocks" is a heavily researched format, but it doesn't sound that way.
 
hypotheticaly, could a ROCK station work in the market? i'm not talking old, classic, deep, or metal. just a modern rock station with maybe some alternative mixed in....

could it work and stay here, if only someone would invest in it some?

-would love to see CC drop the River and go back to classic rock and get 96Rock to switch to modern/active rock.
 
Here is my take on what should happen in the Raleigh/Durham radio market in
regard to these stations...

WBBB ("96 Rock") should stay with their current format, maybe tweak it a little.

WRVA ("100.7, The River") should become "Oldies 100.7" again.

WYMY ("Y-102.9") as for them, if 100.7 returned to oldies, Curtis Media might
want to consider adding a "FM Talk" in the triangle, which would bring in talk
shows like "Micheal Savage", "Bill O'Reilly" and "Alan Colmes".

As for WRDU, drop the Country Format and maybe go "Active Rock".
 
tothedj said:
WYMY ("Y-102.9") as for them, if 100.7 returned to oldies, Curtis Media might
want to consider adding a "FM Talk" in the triangle, which would bring in talk
shows like "Micheal Savage", "Bill O'Reilly" and "Alan Colmes".

As for WRDU, drop the Country Format and maybe go "Active Rock".
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It's WWMY. WYMY is Spanish.

And you poor deprived people don't even have a soft AC any more. You need standards other than a few hours on the weekend on WPTF.
 
;D Classic Rock would be OK if the programmers could stay away from "Stairway to Heaven, Maggie May, Long version of Light My Fire, and Layla every frigging day! Believe me there is a wealth of music out there that is not being rammed down your throat by a service that could be used.
 
vchimpanzee said:
And you poor deprived people don't even have a soft AC any more.
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I wouldn't say that makes us deprived. I would say that means the Lord himself is smiling on us.
 
tothedj said:
Here is my take on what should happen in the Raleigh/Durham radio market in
regard to these stations...

WBBB ("96 Rock") should stay with their current format, maybe tweak it a little.

WRVA ("100.7, The River") should become "Oldies 100.7" again.

WYMY ("Y-102.9") as for them, if 100.7 returned to oldies, Curtis Media might
want to consider adding a "FM Talk" in the triangle, which would bring in talk
shows like "Micheal Savage", "Bill O'Reilly" and "Alan Colmes".

As for WRDU, drop the Country Format and maybe go "Active Rock".
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I agree with all except RDU going active rock. No money in active rock, otherwise 96rock would've stayed with it years ago (ok, they were mainstream...close enough).

Alt/active in Raleigh = No $$$.

All about revenue, not ratings. You can have a highly rated station, but if it's not making money does it matter? If a station's overall ratings are low, but does well in it's target, and can be sold (sold out) then you're ok.


I see Y102 adding more AC titles to fill the void left by WRSN/Sunny 939. Otherwise WRAL owns AC in the market. Not a bad thing for Y....just need to be careful about those 80s titles. Whether they consider themselves an "oldies" station or not, perception is reality to it's P1s.

If your perceived as something, live up to it. Or you'll lose your core. Lose the core and your dead.


WTRG back to a 60s/70s oldies, ie "Classic Top 40", would kill. Especially on the 12th strongest FM in the U.S. (over 10,000 sq mi)

With that said about WTRG.... "oldies" is a 35-64 format. No delusions about it. If mgmt is ok with that, there's untapped local riches for a 35 plus format. Even in Raleigh where the average age is late 30s/early 40s.
 
??? With that said about WTRG.... "oldies" is a 35-64 format. No delusions about it. If mgmt is ok with that, there's untapped local riches for a 35 plus format. Even in Raleigh where the average age is late 30s/early 40s.
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Wait a minute? Where did you get these demo's from?? Averaage age late 30's ..I Doubt that..Show me!
 
I was able to DX WRVA today (I live just outside of Charlotte), and I have two words for you people in The Triangle:
"I'M SORRY"
 
Hey! The River is sounding great!
Lots of people don't want to hear other people entertaining them all the time!
Lots of people just want to stick to the same tried and true songs that make them feel comfortable!
They do not need the variety or stimulation that others need! That's what makes the River great!
And every now and then, the voiceover dude comes on to front-announce how much the Eagles mean to the world, or how... well that's the only one I've heard, but I imagine there are others just as great as that one!
So don't pee on The River's corn flakes, they're trying to entertain us in the most innocuous ways possible!

*reaches for Clear Channel bumper stickers, looks at wrist for a few minutes, hears another Bob Seger medley in his head, reaches for Word icon to write The River's obit*
 
*reaches for Clear Channel bumper stickers, looks at wrist for a few minutes, hears another Bob Seger medley in his head, reaches for Word icon to write The River's obit*


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The irony is I heard a Bob Seger song when I was dxing. Oh wait, I guess it isn't ironic when you play the some songs over and over.
 
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"Hey! The River is sounding great!
Lots of people don't want to hear other people entertaining them all the time!
Lots of people just want to stick to the same tried and true songs that make them feel comfortable!
They do not need the variety or stimulation that others need! That's what makes the River great!
And every now and then, the voiceover dude comes on to front-announce how much the Eagles mean to the world, or how... well that's the only one I've heard, but I imagine there are others just as great as that one!
So don't pee on The River's corn flakes, they're trying to entertain us in the most innocuous ways possible!?"

I know you're being ironic. Funny stuff. But, sadly that formula works in many markets. Pragramming to the people willing to participate in Arbitron's archaic diiary keeping process.

GREAT NEWS! The people meter is coming and it will be a big change for the better. Not perfect, but better.
See Philadelphia's numbers. Rock does better. And, those ridiculously high time spent listening levels on
ethnic stations come down to reality. Couple years away. Gives CC time to scew up a few more stations and fire some more people, though.
 
Yeah I was just being silly, but it was only to cover up the sadness that comes when I try
to listen to The River. It's like all they did was blow up two heritage stations and give us a
generic country station and a classic rock station with no personality or information
beyond the music.
Not that the same hasn't happened to thousands of other stations, it's nothing new, but
when I listen to The River or other jukebox stations, it's like they want me to rely on my
memories from back then to even be entertained. If I'm relying on my memories, I'm
remembering Oldies100.7 and Bob the Blade and Reynolds & Silva, and how good things were,
in addition to "the great rock and roll of all time" they package up for us.

[/rant]but it's early on Friday so I might have to start up again :D
 
BIG APE said:
??? With that said about WTRG.... "oldies" is a 35-64 format. No delusions about it. If mgmt is ok with that, there's untapped local riches for a 35 plus format. Even in Raleigh where the average age is late 30s/early 40s.
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Wait a minute? Where did you get these demo's from?? Averaage age late 30's ..I Doubt that..Show me!
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Check the latest Census for Raleigh (not Durham).
 
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