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is Dance music just like Hockey players ?

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I dont want to sound like a racist or something like that, But what happen to all the Black Dance music artist and groups ? In the 90"s their was C&C Music Factory , Black BoX , Martha Wash , Rupaul , CeCe Peniston ( Spelling ), Snap , and so on . Todays dance music , very rear I see any Black Dance Music artist or groups . What Happened ?<P ID="signature">______________
Winter Olympic , Who cares . Its time to watch American Idol.</P>
 
> I dont want to sound like a racist or something like that,
> But what happen to all the Black Dance music artist and
> groups ? In the 90"s their was C&C Music Factory , Black BoX
> , Martha Wash , Rupaul , CeCe Peniston ( Spelling ), Snap ,
> and so on . Todays dance music , very rear I see any Black
> Dance Music artist or groups . What Happened ?

There still is Deborah Cox but the majority of the afrocentric aspect of dance is underground.

TONY SANTIAGO
 
No

> I dont want to sound like a racist or something like that,
> But what happen to all the Black Dance music artist and
> groups ? In the 90"s their was C&C Music Factory , Black BoX
> , Martha Wash , Rupaul , CeCe Peniston ( Spelling ), Snap ,
> and so on . Todays dance music , very rear I see any Black
> Dance Music artist or groups . What Happened ?
>

Dance music is likely the most culturally and ethnically diverse music format today.

That is quite evident when looking at the charts (such as the Billboard Dance Chart).

By the way, some of us just started spinning RuPaul's new single, "People Are People", a track further promoting diversity and colorblindness.

Richard<P ID="signature">______________
http://www.RichardJDalton.com</P>
 
> There still is Deborah Cox but the majority of the
> afrocentric aspect of dance is underground.

I don't agree. Deborah Cox is certainly a core aritst of the format, but looking the the Billboard dance airplay chart, there is a higher showing of "black" aritsts than there are of most other ethnic groups.

I think a more acurate statement would be that the majority of ALL dance music is underground.

The existance of this thread somewhat saddens me, as I have always been proud of the diversity of the format, which is still strong today. To have such an important aspect of the format overlooked hurts.

Richard<P ID="signature">______________
http://www.RichardJDalton.com</P>
 
Some clarifications

> I dont want to sound like a racist or something like that,
> But what happen to all the Black Dance music artist and
> groups ? In the 90"s their was C&C Music Factory , Black BoX
> , Martha Wash , Rupaul , CeCe Peniston ( Spelling ), Snap ,
> and so on . Todays dance music , very rear I see any Black
> Dance Music artist or groups . What Happened ?
>

Black Box is a Dance project started out by a couple of guys from Ialy (not black). They sampled a famous disco song on their #1 hit "Ride On Time" which featured the vocals of a black female singer. She later collaborated with them on other tunes, and her name is...Martha Wash.

Snap is a Dance project started out by a couple of guys from Germany (not black). These two guys were already making music in the 80s, and even had a hit in Germany with Sven Vath (before he became a Trance and Techno god, and before HR3 in Frankfurt started their live Clubnight broadcasts). This is similar to the concept of Culture Beat, which was started out by Torsten Fenslau. In fact, Torsten was in the same circle as Sven and the guys from Snap. Sadly he died in 1993 from a car accident, a few months after "Mr. Vein" became a worldwide hit.

C&C Music factory is a Dance project started by a couple of guys from New York, Cole & Cliviles. Sadly one of them died a couple years later from Aids.

The late 80s to mid 90s were a different period of time for Dance, very Euro-friendly. Basically a few years after Chicago House broke onto the scene in the UK and Italy, some European producers were influenced by that sound, but also by the mid 80s Euro-Pop/Euro-Dance sound (Sandra, Modern Talking, Bad Boys Blue), and by the emerging Hip Hop movement. That's why you have the sampling on the early Black Box records.
Snap were also influenced by the emerging German and Belgian Techno scenes, especially what was playing in the nightclubs of Frankfurt. They created this new mass appeal sound that was very Pop friendly, and had melodies, a female singer, and a male Rapper (usually an American ex G.I. who just happened to be living in Frankfurt).

By the mid to late 90s many of the European countries had a thriving Hip Hop scene. Hence the reason Top 40 stations in France like Skyrock went all Hip Hop, or in Germany a lot of the former male rappers in Euro-Dance acts branched out into American sounding Hip Hop (Berlin has two Hip Hop radio stations).
At the same time Dance music was becoming much more music without boundaries by going more instrumental. Some of you may hate that so many Dance tunes have no vocals, but at the same time you're all selfish. Not everyone speaks and understands English - that's why so many Italian Dance records had such crappy lyrics to their songs. But Instrumental music? That type of Dance music can transcend borders and continents, and can find a home anywhere. Especially in todays climate where any 15 year old can buy some software programs and flirt with the idea of becoming the next big Dance producer.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by CHRles on 02/18/06 06:55 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: No

RuPaul covering DePeche Mode?
I'm afraid of what this wil sound like.

Actually I just found a clip of it on Amazon.
*shudder*

> By the way, some of us just started spinning RuPaul's new
> single, "People Are People", a track further promoting
> diversity and colorblindness.<P ID="signature">______________
Because you dance to disco but you still like rock.</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Jimmy Cinnamon Roll on 02/18/06 08:30 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Jack

"In the beginning, there was Jack. And Jack had a groove. And from this groove came the groove of all grooves. And while one day viciously throwing down on his box, Jack boldly declared, 'Let there be House!' And House music was born. I am, you see. I am the creator. And this is my House. And in my House there is only House music. But I am not so selfish, because once you've entered my House, it then becomes our House, and our House music. And you see, no one man owns House, because house music is a universal language spoken and understood by all. You see, House is a feeling, that no one can understand really, unless you're deep into the vibe of House. House is an uncontrollable desire to Jack your body. And as I told ya before, this is our house, and our House music."


And by the way, we just learned that Candi Staton has a massive hit again in the UK.
 
> > There still is Deborah Cox but the majority of the
> > afrocentric aspect of dance is underground.
>
> I don't agree. Deborah Cox is certainly a core aritst of the
> format, but looking the the Billboard dance airplay chart,
> there is a higher showing of "black" aritsts than there are
> of most other ethnic groups.
>
> I think a more acurate statement would be that the majority
> of ALL dance music is underground.
>
> The existance of this thread somewhat saddens me, as I have
> always been proud of the diversity of the format, which is
> still strong today. To have such an important aspect of the
> format overlooked hurts.
>
> Richard
>

Richard....

I do agree about the diversity of the format and I too am proud of it. Dance is perhaps one of the few musical genres out there that actually have support from the various cultures...white, afrocentric, Latin, etc. And you know I DO believe the majority of dance music is underground, which that is more of a crying shame than talking about the diversity (or the arguments of "lack of" by some).

Heck, I don't care WHO releases a track. If it is something that dance music and the mainstream culture should hop on...then by all means, GET IT OUT THERE! :)

TS
 
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