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littlelarry
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Cmon get with it. It's a NICHE format within another NICHE format. You have to go after the largest possible listener base and in Memphis that would seem to be the SEC fan. Titans never drew listeners on the radio that I know of. Maybe the first year on 56 but after that zilch. Just keep them off recruiting and deal with it.
No FM sports would work here, cmon man. Why waste a FM signal for a niche within a niche again? A FM Talk or News Talk maybe could be successful but even those are stretches. Look at other markets. I know of a couple FM talk that do ok but no sports anywhere in the USA that I know of.
The problem with Memphis sports is that only 20k people give a crap about U of M. The rest are UT, Ole Miss, Miss State, Vandy Arkansas etc....and the Griz while a major team havent been around long enough to make people HAVE to talk about them, they are just here basically. 20 years from now with a championship might change the city's way of sports thinkin but doubtful.
730 is a joke, I get better static from 1430
No FM sports would work here, cmon man. Why waste a FM signal for a niche within a niche again? A FM Talk or News Talk maybe could be successful but even those are stretches. Look at other markets. I know of a couple FM talk that do ok but no sports anywhere in the USA that I know of.
The problem with Memphis sports is that only 20k people give a crap about U of M. The rest are UT, Ole Miss, Miss State, Vandy Arkansas etc....and the Griz while a major team havent been around long enough to make people HAVE to talk about them, they are just here basically. 20 years from now with a championship might change the city's way of sports thinkin but doubtful.
730 is a joke, I get better static from 1430
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Sandscott
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Let me chime in! If someone can only talk about one team or conference, they aren't really a sports fan. Maybe Memphis doesn't need an all sports station.
Memphians are not bigger fans of alabama football than they are memphis sports. That is dumb. Memphis sports talk show hosts are though. 20,000 plus fans go to memphis football on weekends in the fall. The Memphis Tigers pack their basketball games. Memphis Griz is a PRO team with NBA stars on their team and the opponents.
Yes Arkansas and Mississippi are border states and lots of fans wanna cheer for the Volunteers because they win and have a chance at a championship. There is a way to cover all the areas and still keep your focus on being a MEMPHIS SPORTS station. The problem starts with the narrow minded hosts in my opinion. Screen the lame repepitive callers!
On a memphis sports show you would be wrong to ignore Razorback, Rebel and Volunteer fans. However they have sports shows in Knoxville, Oxford and Fayetteville.
Memphis has never had a lick of civic pride. Not in my lifetime anyways. If you think that sports stations are doing it right. Check out their less than one share. I guess just keep up the work!
Yes Arkansas and Mississippi are border states and lots of fans wanna cheer for the Volunteers because they win and have a chance at a championship. There is a way to cover all the areas and still keep your focus on being a MEMPHIS SPORTS station. The problem starts with the narrow minded hosts in my opinion. Screen the lame repepitive callers!
On a memphis sports show you would be wrong to ignore Razorback, Rebel and Volunteer fans. However they have sports shows in Knoxville, Oxford and Fayetteville.
Memphis has never had a lick of civic pride. Not in my lifetime anyways. If you think that sports stations are doing it right. Check out their less than one share. I guess just keep up the work!
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longleggs
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I agree Megastar!
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FMSales
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megastar said:Memphians are not bigger fans of alabama football than they are memphis sports. That is dumb. Memphis sports talk show hosts are though. 20,000 plus fans go to memphis football on weekends in the fall. The Memphis Tigers pack their basketball games. Memphis Griz is a PRO team with NBA stars on their team and the opponents.
Yes Arkansas and Mississippi are border states and lots of fans wanna cheer for the Volunteers because they win and have a chance at a championship. There is a way to cover all the areas and still keep your focus on being a MEMPHIS SPORTS station. The problem starts with the narrow minded hosts in my opinion. Screen the lame repepitive callers!
On a memphis sports show you would be wrong to ignore Razorback, Rebel and Volunteer fans. However they have sports shows in Knoxville, Oxford and Fayetteville.
Memphis has never had a lick of civic pride. Not in my lifetime anyways. If you think that sports stations are doing it right. Check out their less than one share. I guess just keep up the work!
Valid points, although in it's target demo, 560 does better than a one share with some of its programs.
But never forget it ain't about ratings with a sportstalker, it's all about the $$$. What is the ONE station in stable that Flinn has not flipped in ages? Sports 560.
And just to add to the drama, on the heels of Lapides' retirement announcement, I am told more changes could be on the way.
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ocala500
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Whatever they are doing, pandering heavily to the SEC crowd, poor show hosts and talent, selling time to those who produce booring programs, it all adds up to low ratings. The Arbitron pretty much shows what success they are having with what they are doing and it is pretty dismal. One of the best sports stations in the country is KTCK-AM, THE TICKET, in Dallas. If you listen to that station, it is full of all kinds of sports and has lots of what I will call "Guy Talk" about things like girls, the interesting things going on the the DFW area, the personal lives of the hosts, etc.Zeke_Terry said:As I'm sure most of you are aware, you play to your listeners. If they want to talk SEC, then - that's what you do. There are several specialty shows on 56 that really do try to expand the listenerbase - but they can only do so much. Where Rainey is concerned - he buys his time for broadcast - and if he ever misses he'll get yanked. But it's pretty much guaranteed money, and it would be stupid from an economical aspect to dump him while he still pays.
Lately the sports bar has been trying to expand with different topics, but you can only bait an audience so much, and if they don't bite - you move on. Several folks here have ideas, but there's only so much time available for shows.
Ya know - if ya'll wanna talk about sports - call in. It's not hard - I'm sure they would appreciate a 'fresh' topic for a change.
And as far as an FM sports/talk station - it would NOT last 6 months. There's barely enough local sports for the 2 AM stations.
Sandscott said:Let me chime in! If someone can only talk about one team or conference, they aren't really a sports fan. Maybe Memphis doesn't need an all sports station.
I strongly disagree - if a person is passionate about one team or one confrence they are a REAL fan. I consider myself a fan even though I really only follow 2 professional sports teams - the Grizz, which I have to say I never cared for the NBA til we got a team - and the New Orleans Saints. Hmmm...although I do love me some NHL Hockey.
I don't follow baseball, college football or basketball and I consider golf to be an elitist waste of time (that's is again just MY personal oppinion) and poker?!?!? WTF?!?! - yet I do consider myself a 'sports' fan. My sports choices just happen to be limited.
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longleggs
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Well I will respectfully disagree with you as well. I am not really a college football fan either and I think that is okay. However, if were a fan of say one NFL team, and hate golf, baseball, basketball, etc. then I am not really big sports fan, I just happen to like one thing. SPORTS is plural. In football, my team is the Titans and I also like the Colts (and I have been a fan since Bert Jones was quarterback so no I am not a front runner). However, I am always interested in what is going on throughout the league. I always follow scores from other games, watch highlights, and quite often watch at least some of other teams playing because I respect the league as a whole, and I want to know what is going on with say Alex Smith in San Francisco. If you are stuck, to only one sport or one team, a person doesn't have a large grasp of what is going on throughout the conference, league, etc. If, in your case, you are a Saints fan, you need to be concerned with what is going on with other teams in the division and the NFC.
Part of the problem the Memphis Grizzlies face is the announcers and fans have very limited knowledge about the NBA as a whole. There ought to be an NBA roundtable on Sports 56, etc. Fans need to become educated. It is how you build rivalries and gather enthusiasm when certain teams come to town. For instance, I was a big fan of the Utah Jazz when Stockton and Malone were there. When the Grizzlies came, I became a fan of theirs but I still follow the Jazz quite closely and get excited when they play each other.
The real sports fan can sit down and talk about things that happened in college football thirty years ago, the same for the NFL, NBA, etc. For example, I can tell you stuff about the NFL that occurred before I was even born. If all you have to say is "Do you think Tennessee can beat Florida this year?" Then your knowledge is limited.No offense to you sir. That's my personal take.
Part of the problem the Memphis Grizzlies face is the announcers and fans have very limited knowledge about the NBA as a whole. There ought to be an NBA roundtable on Sports 56, etc. Fans need to become educated. It is how you build rivalries and gather enthusiasm when certain teams come to town. For instance, I was a big fan of the Utah Jazz when Stockton and Malone were there. When the Grizzlies came, I became a fan of theirs but I still follow the Jazz quite closely and get excited when they play each other.
The real sports fan can sit down and talk about things that happened in college football thirty years ago, the same for the NFL, NBA, etc. For example, I can tell you stuff about the NFL that occurred before I was even born. If all you have to say is "Do you think Tennessee can beat Florida this year?" Then your knowledge is limited.No offense to you sir. That's my personal take.
I believe a Grizzlies Roundtype thing was discused just before they got here - but the almighty dollar - or lack there of - derailed it.
great post long leggs....great post. I agree that by his own description Zeke is a casual sports fan at best. So I would not program my sports station towards him. Casual fans will only listen to station occasionally at best anyways. If they do great. But you need to program to the folks who love sports everyday. You know like the millions of people who tune into sportscenter everynight.
Sports coverage in memphis is still a step below minor league. But with the memphis sports scene on the rise. Their could be a better memphis sports radio in the near future.
It would be nice. It has been lousy for a long time. Thats not a jab at a station or every host. Just overall.
Sports coverage in memphis is still a step below minor league. But with the memphis sports scene on the rise. Their could be a better memphis sports radio in the near future.
It would be nice. It has been lousy for a long time. Thats not a jab at a station or every host. Just overall.
Yep I'm a casual fan - heck I'm a casual just about everything. But I do travel to sports events - FLEW to Vancouver for the NHL All-Star Game a few years back, periodic trips to St.Louis and Nashville for the same. And a few trips to see the Saints every year. And several Grizz, Redbirds and Riverkings games a year.
So as a casual fan, I probably attend more events than many 'sportscenter' types.
But that's just me.
So as a casual fan, I probably attend more events than many 'sportscenter' types.
But that's just me.
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littlebigradio
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is the world coming to an end?....it's Tuesday and The Rainman didn't do trivia.....maybe he's getting senile and just forgot.
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