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Is it time again for Adult CHR?

Good article about the <a href=http://www.edisonresearch.com/home/archives/2006/03/has_modern_acs.html>return of Modern AC music</a> on the Edison Research site this week... got me thinking.

From 2002-04, there was little rock that broke through on the CHR chart. Over the last year and a half, that's changed, and now we're at a point where there are some really strong Modern AC-type songs on CHRs, like James Blunt and Daniel Powter, and a few others that are climbing up.

On the other hand, there are CHRs that are still ignoring pop/rock. In fact, you have entire markets that are devoid of it, thanks to current trends at Hot AC (away from currents, thanks to Jack-FM) and Alternative (massive decline in stations).

In his article, Sean Ross thinks the answer might be a return of Modern AC. I disagree with this. Modern AC was a short-lived format because it was too narrow and overly repetitive. It was stuck in one sound; people liked that sound but got tired of it quickly. As soon as that sound went out-of-vogue, the Modern ACs went with it.

Adult CHR, on the other hand, would be able to play all of this music, but still mix in non-offensive rhythmic and pop, like Cascada and Mary J. Blige. That's the key. There's definitely a demand for James Blunt, Daniel Powter, KT Tunstall, O.A.R., etc. without T-Pain and Sean Paul, but Modern AC's mistake was to make all rhythmic off limits, when there's clearly a demand for it from 25-34 females.

I would present such a station with CHR positioning, "Today's Hit Music" or something similar, and be aggressive with new music. During the day, be somewhat gold-based, really own the pop, rock, and dance of the last 10 years. At night, go further into rock, not rhythmic. Play the Hawthorne Heights and Panic! At The Disco songs teens love and are requesting the heck out of on Alternative. Don't bother with the exclusionary "No Rap" tags that used to be ubiquitous at Adult CHR. There's no point in alienating that audience, and some compatible rap should be used. Especially don't be afraid of dance music; that's the rhythmic genre that can best be used to break up the rock and still attract adult females.

I'm not saying this could work everywhere, but certainly in markets like Pittsburgh, where you have a CHR bordering on rhythmic, a recurrent and gold-based Hot AC, and an Alternative leaning Active, it would be worth a try.
 
> Good article about the return of Modern AC music on the
> Edison Research site this week... got me thinking.
>
> From 2002-04, there was little rock that broke through on
> the CHR chart. Over the last year and a half, that's
> changed, and now we're at a point where there are some
> really strong Modern AC-type songs on CHRs, like James Blunt
> and Daniel Powter, and a few others that are climbing up.
>
> On the other hand, there are CHRs that are still ignoring
> pop/rock. In fact, you have entire markets that are devoid
> of it, thanks to current trends at Hot AC (away from
> currents, thanks to Jack-FM) and Alternative (massive
> decline in stations).
>
> In his article, Sean Ross thinks the answer might be a
> return of Modern AC. I disagree with this. Modern AC was a
> short-lived format because it was too narrow and overly
> repetitive. It was stuck in one sound; people liked that
> sound but got tired of it quickly. As soon as that sound
> went out-of-vogue, the Modern ACs went with it.
>
> Adult CHR, on the other hand, would be able to play all of
> this music, but still mix in non-offensive rhythmic and pop,
> like Cascada and Mary J. Blige. That's the key. There's
> definitely a demand for James Blunt, Daniel Powter, KT
> Tunstall, O.A.R., etc. without T-Pain and Sean Paul, but
> Modern AC's mistake was to make all rhythmic off limits,
> when there's clearly a demand for it from 25-34 females.
>
> I would present such a station with CHR positioning,
> "Today's Hit Music" or something similar, and be aggressive
> with new music. During the day, be somewhat gold-based,
> really own the pop, rock, and dance of the last 10 years.
> At night, go further into rock, not rhythmic. Play the
> Hawthorne Heights and Panic! At The Disco songs teens love
> and are requesting the heck out of on Alternative. Don't
> bother with the exclusionary "No Rap" tags that used to be
> ubiquitous at Adult CHR. There's no point in alienating
> that audience, and some compatible rap should be used.
> Especially don't be afraid of dance music; that's the
> rhythmic genre that can best be used to break up the rock
> and still attract adult females.
>
> I'm not saying this could work everywhere, but certainly in
> markets like Pittsburgh, where you have a CHR bordering on
> rhythmic, a recurrent and gold-based Hot AC, and an
> Alternative leaning Active, it would be worth a try.
>
well come to san francisco and see how adult CHR's works, we have tons of them<P ID="signature">______________
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I'll agree with you as far as modern AC is concerned. Personally, I like the format, but I do understand why it's floundering. As far as the adult CHR, I would pattern it after Atlanta's Star 94. Some people here (myself included) have given Star the blues on presenting itself as a CHR when they don't play a lot of urban/rhythmic music. However, they have opened up the format to some urban/rhythmic music over the last few years (Chris Brown's "Run It" was their #1 song recently). For a long time, I never understood why hot AC wouldn't play some compatible urban music. The adults may not wanna hear Missy Elliott or Nelly, but they probably wouldn't be put off hearing Mary J. Blige and Destiny's Child. Some hot ACs may find that even playing Mary J. Blige doesn't work for them and if it doesn't, then they know what works for them. But in the case of Star 94, I wonder if adding urban music was a response to keep Q100 at bay.



> Good article about the return of Modern AC music on the
> Edison Research site this week... got me thinking.
>
> From 2002-04, there was little rock that broke through on
> the CHR chart. Over the last year and a half, that's
> changed, and now we're at a point where there are some
> really strong Modern AC-type songs on CHRs, like James Blunt
> and Daniel Powter, and a few others that are climbing up.
>
> On the other hand, there are CHRs that are still ignoring
> pop/rock. In fact, you have entire markets that are devoid
> of it, thanks to current trends at Hot AC (away from
> currents, thanks to Jack-FM) and Alternative (massive
> decline in stations).
>
> In his article, Sean Ross thinks the answer might be a
> return of Modern AC. I disagree with this. Modern AC was a
> short-lived format because it was too narrow and overly
> repetitive. It was stuck in one sound; people liked that
> sound but got tired of it quickly. As soon as that sound
> went out-of-vogue, the Modern ACs went with it.
>
> Adult CHR, on the other hand, would be able to play all of
> this music, but still mix in non-offensive rhythmic and pop,
> like Cascada and Mary J. Blige. That's the key. There's
> definitely a demand for James Blunt, Daniel Powter, KT
> Tunstall, O.A.R., etc. without T-Pain and Sean Paul, but
> Modern AC's mistake was to make all rhythmic off limits,
> when there's clearly a demand for it from 25-34 females.
>
> I would present such a station with CHR positioning,
> "Today's Hit Music" or something similar, and be aggressive
> with new music. During the day, be somewhat gold-based,
> really own the pop, rock, and dance of the last 10 years.
> At night, go further into rock, not rhythmic. Play the
> Hawthorne Heights and Panic! At The Disco songs teens love
> and are requesting the heck out of on Alternative. Don't
> bother with the exclusionary "No Rap" tags that used to be
> ubiquitous at Adult CHR. There's no point in alienating
> that audience, and some compatible rap should be used.
> Especially don't be afraid of dance music; that's the
> rhythmic genre that can best be used to break up the rock
> and still attract adult females.
>
> I'm not saying this could work everywhere, but certainly in
> markets like Pittsburgh, where you have a CHR bordering on
> rhythmic, a recurrent and gold-based Hot AC, and an
> Alternative leaning Active, it would be worth a try.
>
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"...and the countdown continues until the neanderthals that govern college football do something about their pathetic postseason."--Tim Brando, Sporting News Radio</P>
 
> Good article about the return of Modern AC music on the
> Edison Research site this week... got me thinking.
>
> From 2002-04, there was little rock that broke through on
> the CHR chart. Over the last year and a half, that's
> changed, and now we're at a point where there are some
> really strong Modern AC-type songs on CHRs, like James Blunt
> and Daniel Powter, and a few others that are climbing up.
>
> On the other hand, there are CHRs that are still ignoring
> pop/rock. In fact, you have entire markets that are devoid
> of it, thanks to current trends at Hot AC (away from
> currents, thanks to Jack-FM) and Alternative (massive
> decline in stations).
>
> In his article, Sean Ross thinks the answer might be a
> return of Modern AC. I disagree with this. Modern AC was a
> short-lived format because it was too narrow and overly
> repetitive. It was stuck in one sound; people liked that
> sound but got tired of it quickly. As soon as that sound
> went out-of-vogue, the Modern ACs went with it.
>
> Adult CHR, on the other hand, would be able to play all of
> this music, but still mix in non-offensive rhythmic and pop,
> like Cascada and Mary J. Blige. That's the key. There's
> definitely a demand for James Blunt, Daniel Powter, KT
> Tunstall, O.A.R., etc. without T-Pain and Sean Paul, but
> Modern AC's mistake was to make all rhythmic off limits,
> when there's clearly a demand for it from 25-34 females.
>
> I would present such a station with CHR positioning,
> "Today's Hit Music" or something similar, and be aggressive
> with new music. During the day, be somewhat gold-based,
> really own the pop, rock, and dance of the last 10 years.
> At night, go further into rock, not rhythmic. Play the
> Hawthorne Heights and Panic! At The Disco songs teens love
> and are requesting the heck out of on Alternative. Don't
> bother with the exclusionary "No Rap" tags that used to be
> ubiquitous at Adult CHR. There's no point in alienating
> that audience, and some compatible rap should be used.
> Especially don't be afraid of dance music; that's the
> rhythmic genre that can best be used to break up the rock
> and still attract adult females.
>
> I'm not saying this could work everywhere, but certainly in
> markets like Pittsburgh, where you have a CHR bordering on
> rhythmic, a recurrent and gold-based Hot AC, and an
> Alternative leaning Active, it would be worth a try.
>

WKRQ Cincinnati is kind of doing this though they don't seem to realize it. They are kind of like the kid that got beat up so much even after they lift weights and become stronger than others, they are too afraid to move out of their corner where they've been left alone for a few years. Its all about marketing.
 
> In his article, Sean Ross thinks the answer might be a
> return of Modern AC. I disagree with this.

So do I. Modern A/C is a boring format for the most part.
 
> Good article about the return of Modern AC music on the
> Edison Research site this week... got me thinking.
>
> From 2002-04, there was little rock that broke through on
> the CHR chart. Over the last year and a half, that's
> changed, and now we're at a point where there are some
> really strong Modern AC-type songs on CHRs, like James Blunt
> and Daniel Powter, and a few others that are climbing up.
>
> On the other hand, there are CHRs that are still ignoring
> pop/rock. In fact, you have entire markets that are devoid
> of it, thanks to current trends at Hot AC (away from
> currents, thanks to Jack-FM) and Alternative (massive
> decline in stations).
>
> In his article, Sean Ross thinks the answer might be a
> return of Modern AC. I disagree with this. Modern AC was a
> short-lived format because it was too narrow and overly
> repetitive. It was stuck in one sound; people liked that
> sound but got tired of it quickly. As soon as that sound
> went out-of-vogue, the Modern ACs went with it.
>
> Adult CHR, on the other hand, would be able to play all of
> this music, but still mix in non-offensive rhythmic and pop,
> like Cascada and Mary J. Blige. That's the key. There's
> definitely a demand for James Blunt, Daniel Powter, KT
> Tunstall, O.A.R., etc. without T-Pain and Sean Paul, but
> Modern AC's mistake was to make all rhythmic off limits,
> when there's clearly a demand for it from 25-34 females.
>
> I would present such a station with CHR positioning,
> "Today's Hit Music" or something similar, and be aggressive
> with new music. During the day, be somewhat gold-based,
> really own the pop, rock, and dance of the last 10 years.
> At night, go further into rock, not rhythmic. Play the
> Hawthorne Heights and Panic! At The Disco songs teens love
> and are requesting the heck out of on Alternative. Don't
> bother with the exclusionary "No Rap" tags that used to be
> ubiquitous at Adult CHR. There's no point in alienating
> that audience, and some compatible rap should be used.
> Especially don't be afraid of dance music; that's the
> rhythmic genre that can best be used to break up the rock
> and still attract adult females.
>
> I'm not saying this could work everywhere, but certainly in
> markets like Pittsburgh, where you have a CHR bordering on
> rhythmic, a recurrent and gold-based Hot AC, and an
> Alternative leaning Active, it would be worth a try.
>


From RRonline's station playlists. www.radioandrecords.com

WIFC Wausau (#1 in its market)

Plays ARTIST TITLE (LABEL) TA
(00) Add Date
LW TW
67 67 Kelly Clarkson Walk Away (RCA/RMG) 2211 01/15/2006
67 67 Daniel Powter Bad Day (Warner Bros.) 2211 02/05/2006
67 67 Black Eyed Peas Pump It (A&M/Interscope) 2211 01/15/2006
67 67 Bon Jovi w/Jennifer Nettles Who Says You Can't Go Home (Island/IDJMG) 2211 01/22/2006
67 67 Nickelback Savin' Me (Roadrunner/IDJMG) 2211 03/05/2006
34 34 Jason Mraz Geek In The Pink (Lava/Atlantic) 1122 01/22/2006
34 34 James Blunt You're Beautiful (Custard/Atlantic) 1122 01/15/2006
34 34 Weezer Perfect Situation (Suretone/Geffen) 1122 12/04/2005
34 34 Collective Soul Better Now (El Music Group) 1122 10/23/2005
33 33 Marc Broussard Home (Island/IDJMG) 1089 11/06/2005
33 33 Rob Thomas Ever The Same (Atlantic) 1089 01/15/2006
33 33 Default Count On Me (TVT) 1089 10/02/2005
33 33 Fall Out Boy Dance, Dance (Island/IDJMG) 1089 11/20/2005
33 33 Faders No Sleep Tonight (A&M/Interscope) 1089 11/06/2005
29 29 Pink Stupid Girls (LaFace/Zomba Label Group) 957 03/05/2006
25 25 Bo Bice The Real Thing (RCA/RMG) 825 03/05/2006
24 24 Jack Johnson Upside Down (Brushfire/Universal Republic) 792 03/05/2006
24 24 INXS Pretty Vegas (Epic) 792 10/30/2005
24 24 Wakefield Only One (Jive/Zomba Label Group) 792 10/30/2005
24 24 Fray Over My Head (Cable Car) (Epic) 792 01/22/2006
24 24 Hoobastank If I Were You (Island/IDJMG) 792 03/05/2006
24 24 Switchfoot We Are One Tonight (Columbia) 792 03/05/2006
21 21 Matisyahu King Without A Crown (Or Music/Epic) 693 03/05/2006
19 19 Rihanna Pon De Replay (Def Jam/IDJMG) 627 08/07/2005
19 19 Killers All These Things That I've Done (Island/IDJMG) 627 07/17/2005
19 19 Better Than Ezra A Lifetime (Artemis) 627 10/30/2005
19 19 Yellowcard Lights And Sounds (Capitol) 627 03/05/2006
19 19 Morningwood Nth Degree (Capitol) 627 01/22/2006
16 16 Rihanna SOS (Def Jam/IDJMG) 528 03/05/2006
15 15 Fall Out Boy Sugar, We're Goin' Down (Island/IDJMG) 495 09/11/2005

WIXX Green Bay (#1 in its market)

Plays ARTIST TITLE (LABEL) TA
(00) Add Date
LW TW
64 65 Daniel Powter Bad Day (Warner Bros.) 4048 01/22/2006
64 65 Black Eyed Peas Pump It (A&M/Interscope) 4086 12/18/2005
65 64 Nickelback Savin' Me (Roadrunner/IDJMG) 4086 01/29/2006
64 63 Kelly Clarkson Walk Away (RCA/RMG) 3950 01/15/2006
43 62 James Blunt You're Beautiful (Custard/Atlantic) 3630 01/08/2006
28 38 KT Tunstall Black Horse & The Cherry Tree (Relentless/Virgin) 2306 02/26/2006
37 36 Pink Stupid Girls (LaFace/Zomba Label Group) 2299 02/12/2006
35 35 Weezer Perfect Situation (Suretone/Geffen) 2280 11/27/2005
38 34 Fall Out Boy Dance, Dance (Island/IDJMG) 2123 11/27/2005
51 34 Bon Jovi w/Jennifer Nettles Who Says You Can't Go Home (Island/IDJMG) 2142 01/08/2006
36 33 Jason Mraz Geek In The Pink (Lava/Atlantic) 1957 01/08/2006
33 32 Default Count On Me (TVT) 1945 10/23/2005
29 31 Faders No Sleep Tonight (A&M/Interscope) 1800 11/27/2005
25 31 Rihanna SOS (Def Jam/IDJMG) 1911 02/12/2006
33 28 Rob Thomas Ever The Same (Atlantic) 1669 12/18/2005
33 25 Marc Broussard Home (Island/IDJMG) 1658 10/30/2005
23 25 Jack Johnson Upside Down (Brushfire/Universal Republic) 1464 02/26/2006
8 24 All-American Rejects Move Along (Doghouse/Interscope) 1528 02/26/2006
25 23 Bo Bice The Real Thing (RCA/RMG) 1477 01/08/2006
19 21 Beyonce' Check On It (Sony Urban/Columbia) 758 03/12/2006
14 21 Mat Kearney Undeniable (Aware/Columbia) 1463 03/12/2006
14 20 Mariah Carey We Belong Together (Island/IDJMG) 1518 05/15/2005
19 18 INXS Pretty Vegas (Epic) 1097 11/27/2005
20 17 Hoobastank If I Were You (Island/IDJMG) 907 02/12/2006
13 17 Relient K Be My Escape (Gotee/Capitol) 1104 04/03/2005
16 16 Matisyahu King Without A Crown (Or Music/Epic) 492 02/05/2006
16 16 Fray Over My Head (Cable Car) (Epic) 766 01/15/2006
25 16 Collective Soul Better Now (El Music Group) 862 10/09/2005
17 16 Ashlee Simpson L.O.V.E. (Geffen) 508 02/26/2006
11 15 Bowling For Soup Almost (Silvertone/Jive/Zomba Label Group) 998 01/02/2005

These 2 stations are much like that.

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> Good article about the return of Modern AC music on the
> Edison Research site this week... got me thinking.
>
> From 2002-04, there was little rock that broke through on
> the CHR chart. Over the last year and a half, that's
> changed, and now we're at a point where there are some
> really strong Modern AC-type songs on CHRs, like James Blunt
> and Daniel Powter, and a few others that are climbing up.
>
> On the other hand, there are CHRs that are still ignoring
> pop/rock. In fact, you have entire markets that are devoid
> of it, thanks to current trends at Hot AC (away from
> currents, thanks to Jack-FM) and Alternative (massive
> decline in stations).
>
> In his article, Sean Ross thinks the answer might be a
> return of Modern AC. I disagree with this. Modern AC was a
> short-lived format because it was too narrow and overly
> repetitive. It was stuck in one sound; people liked that
> sound but got tired of it quickly. As soon as that sound
> went out-of-vogue, the Modern ACs went with it.
>
> Adult CHR, on the other hand, would be able to play all of
> this music, but still mix in non-offensive rhythmic and pop,
> like Cascada and Mary J. Blige. That's the key. There's
> definitely a demand for James Blunt, Daniel Powter, KT
> Tunstall, O.A.R., etc. without T-Pain and Sean Paul, but
> Modern AC's mistake was to make all rhythmic off limits,
> when there's clearly a demand for it from 25-34 females.
>
> I would present such a station with CHR positioning,
> "Today's Hit Music" or something similar, and be aggressive
> with new music. During the day, be somewhat gold-based,
> really own the pop, rock, and dance of the last 10 years.
> At night, go further into rock, not rhythmic. Play the
> Hawthorne Heights and Panic! At The Disco songs teens love
> and are requesting the heck out of on Alternative. Don't
> bother with the exclusionary "No Rap" tags that used to be
> ubiquitous at Adult CHR. There's no point in alienating
> that audience, and some compatible rap should be used.
> Especially don't be afraid of dance music; that's the
> rhythmic genre that can best be used to break up the rock
> and still attract adult females.
>
> I'm not saying this could work everywhere, but certainly in
> markets like Pittsburgh, where you have a CHR bordering on
> rhythmic, a recurrent and gold-based Hot AC, and an
> Alternative leaning Active, it would be worth a try.
>

This ought to be a great year in music like 2002. I don't mind modern AC. It's a lot better than the useless "80's, 90's and today" that hot AC disguises itself to sound too ACish. Modern AC/Adult Top 40 sounds more pop-ish and upbeat.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > In his article, Sean Ross thinks the answer might be a
> > return of Modern AC. I disagree with this.
>
> So do I. Modern A/C is a boring format for the most part.
>
Very Boring, and way too predictable. I much rather prefered the ALT-ROCK infused CHR stations in the mid nineties, like Z-100, KRBE, and 95.1-THE EDGE in Charlotte.
 
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