After what we saw with the Giants-Panthers game being cut off in some markets, and the Ravens-Browns game too, is it time for the rules to the changed?
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Is it time for the NFL's television rules to be overhauled?
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Yes, but it has been time for that for 10 years. There was a Jets game I recall getting cut off on CBS in overtime years back. It is pretty absurd for CBS to be able to air a highlight from a game that they cannot air live, 15 seconds later.
I couldn't tell whether that happened at the last second since I was fast-forwarding through "The OT" watching for the Panthers. But if it was at the last second, that shouldn't have happened.
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Allow local crews to call regular season Games and in all Sports postseason.
That's a radio concern only in the NFL. There are no home and away telecasts of televised NFL games, except meaningless preseason games that give local sportscasters four opportunities a year to pretend they're in the big time. Leave the big games to the big boys.
The NFL Commissioner's Office owns the rights to all NFL regular- and post-season games, and has since 1962. Period. The teams only own their own radio and preseason TV rights. Each college conference owns its TV rights in a similar fashion, Notre Dame home games being the only exception. Football is the only sport that is truly national in scope and TV rights.
My understanding is games are only cut off when they conflict with a local market team that is starting, in that particular local market. My guess when this happens, most are OK with it because they want to see their home team from the beginning. Today, there are so many other options to continue watching on other platforms...on-line, on your phone, on satellite, etc., etc.
Correct. The team's local Fox/CBS affiliate MUST switch to the local game at 1 PM PT/4 PM ET, regardless of how the previous game is going. The previous game may or may not become available on Sunday Ticket, depending on how much time is left, and what the score is. An example here in Phoenix was yesterday's Green Bay/Detroit game that was cut off by KSAZ-TV at 1 PM in favor of the Cardinals/49ers game. I don't think the Packers game became available on Sunday Ticket since there was less than a minute to play at the time of the switch.
A couple of points, and i hope i'm not being critical:
CBS couldn't show the Browns/Ravens game, because FOX has promised its advertisers a big viewership from the beginning of its national 4:25 p.m. game, for instance, and the two networks have a reciprocal agreement for that scenario. But you can't promise the advertisers a big viewership from the beginning of its national 4:25 p.m. game, if all of the 1pm games are still going on.
Fox's issue was different, they had to get the local break at the end of the window, since that break can't be manipulated. So Fox had no choice to leave the Giants-Panthers game in the markets where they had to.
If the NFL was smart, they would change the late game starting times to 5:00. That way everybody would have seen the end of both the Giants-Panthers game and the Ravens-Browns game.
Red Zone had the same issue, since they couldn't show the end of the Browns-Raiders game last week, since NBC wanted you to watch its pregame show instead. But that can't happen if a game is still in progress either, so that defeats the purpose too. The Sunday Night game should start at 9:00, like MNF used to, with a short intro, like it was on ABC.
CBS couldn't show the Browns/Ravens game, because FOX has promised its advertisers a big viewership from the beginning of its national 4:25 p.m. game, for instance, and the two networks have a reciprocal agreement for that scenario. But you can't promise the advertisers a big viewership from the beginning of its national 4:25 p.m. game, if all of the 1pm games are still going on.
Fox's issue was different, they had to get the local break at the end of the window, since that break can't be manipulated. So Fox had no choice to leave the Giants-Panthers game in the markets where they had to.
If the NFL was smart, they would change the late game starting times to 5:00. That way everybody would have seen the end of both the Giants-Panthers game and the Ravens-Browns game.
Red Zone had the same issue, since they couldn't show the end of the Browns-Raiders game last week, since NBC wanted you to watch its pregame show instead. But that can't happen if a game is still in progress either, so that defeats the purpose too. The Sunday Night game should start at 9:00, like MNF used to, with a short intro, like it was on ABC.
No. CBS cut off the Browns vs Baltimore game Sunday for Minnesota and Philly on FOX. Neither is a "local" team to me by the NFL's definitions.
It is the case that the networks will switch certain home markets on their doubleheader days so the entirety of the local game is shown in both teams' home markets. So suppose New England and Miami are playing an OT game, and the Raiders are hosting Cincinnati.
CBS would probably keep most of its network on the Patriots game, but switch the stations in San Fransisco, Sacramento, Cincy, and Louisville to their local game at 4:20.
But on a network's singleheader day, they are not permitted to continue live coverage of an OT game past 4:20 or 4:25.
I don't think the rules need to be changed. The local teams do stay on in their markets. Outside of that, considering what the networks pay for rights, should be at the discretion of the broadcaster. If the late games were moved to 5, it would interfere even more with Prime Time programming as well as the national NFL game on NBC. The current rules best address the potential conflicts IMO.
incorrect. The KC/Jax game got switched to Cleveland/Baltimore due to the "blowout rule" so they switched us to a "more competitive game". That audience kept the game until its conclusion which ran until 3:45ish Central time because that was the game we got.
Anybody who got the Cle/Balt game as "bonus coverage" (after their scheduled game got done) got dropped at 3:26PM CDT
correct. Thats how CBS does it. FOX OTOH seems to do it bass ackwards and would probably send everyone to the late game except Miami & Boston areas
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wrong. I already said the explanation
wrong again. NY and Carolina areas the game was there until conclusion. Those markets joined Philly/Minny with about 40 seconds gone in the game
aint gonna happen. So because one game runs in OT lets give the networks up to an hour to BS until the late game? PLEASE PLEASE send me some of whatever you are smoking.
nope. Too late for most folks. Again ONE TIME it happened in how many years of Red Zone?
technically yes that is how it suppose to work if you are the local/regional team that has the late game. But FOX & CBS have different rules they abide by when they have a DH for everyone else
FOX...dumps EVERYONE (sans the local teams markets that have early game) to the late game
CBS...keeps everyone on bonus coverage of early games until they are done...hence 2 weeks ago NYG/NO was almost done with 1st quarter when CBS joined them.
Fox17 use to do it in the early 2000's will send it to the Lions game and leave the early game but now they just keep the early game going until it's over I remember Lions VS Bears in 2011 Falcons VS Saints went to OT wasn't until the 2ND quarter when I got Lions VS Bears game which isn't right. Since the Lions are the home team they should show the whole screw the early game that is running late and London game that went to OT in 2016 Lions Vs Texans again wasn't until the 2ND quarter until I got to watch it.
I can give you a few examples where Fox didn't dump everyone to the late game...in 2013 Washington @ Oakland was supposed to start, but Fox kept us on the Seattle @ Houston game. and in 2011, the same thing happened with the Atlanta @ Tampa Bay game, Fox kept us on the Detroit @ Minnesota game. Both times, it was bonus coverage, not our assigned game.
Back in 1996, i missed most of the first quarter of Dallas at San Fransisco because the Arizona at Washington game went to overtime, and it took almost the whole overtime period before the Cardinals won.
Fox cut away the Miami-Chicago bonus coverage on October 14th for highlights of other games...mind you just a few minutes before the Dolphins' game-winning field goal. I think it was around 1:25-1:30 PT. Had to find an AM stream online that didn't block the game. (If you search hard you may be able to find one or two that fail to 'block' the NFL game.) The Seahawks had already played at Wembley and FOX was scheduling some baseball special (I think) and local paid programming in that 1:30-4PM slot. Didn't want to interrupt the baseball special I guess!
It was CBS's doubleheader, so Fox couldn't show the Chicago @ Miami game, even if they wanted to. Now, the league could have delayed the late games on CBS, but maybe it isn't allowed.
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