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It's still hard for me to believe that we live in a nation in which classic artists from the Great American Songbook no longer have a legitimate space on the dial...

I think it's very disturbing that traditional, wholesome music has been replaced with:

I AIN'T SAYIN' SHE A GOLDDIGGA...etc.

It's a shame that the youth of our country has been so polluted with garbage and mindless trash...and we see the effects of it in their behavior. The days of speaking properly and dressing well are gone. There is no culture in today's youth, nothing sets apart one person's individuality from another's.

Today's youth are IMO are group of dumb-downed, illiterate mulattos, created by the treacherous parasatic venom who control the media and the government. But this is just my opinion.

This being said, is satellite radio worth the money longterm? Or within a few years will it contain the same insidious garbage that is on the radio and cable television today...resulting in the further breakdown of our once great society?
 
The days of "The Great American Songbook" on traditional radio are over. They will not return because there really is not enough interest.

That said I am not ready to go the Sirius or XM route yet. At this point I am hearing too many complaints from users of both systems about reception problems.
When those issues are resolved, I might reconsider. Meanwhile I have enough cd's to keep me in listening material.

> It's still hard for me to believe that we live in a nation
> in which classic artists from the Great American Songbook no
> longer have a legitimate space on the dial...
>
> I think it's very disturbing that traditional, wholesome
> music has been replaced with:
>
> I AIN'T SAYIN' SHE A GOLDDIGGA...etc.
>
> It's a shame that the youth of our country has been so
> polluted with garbage and mindless trash...and we see the
> effects of it in their behavior. The days of speaking
> properly and dressing well are gone. There is no culture in
> today's youth, nothing sets apart one person's individuality
> from another's.
>
> Today's youth are IMO are group of dumb-downed, illiterate
> mulattos, created by the treacherous parasatic venom who
> control the media and the government. But this is just my
> opinion.
>
> This being said, is satellite radio worth the money
> longterm? Or within a few years will it contain the same
> insidious garbage that is on the radio and cable television
> today...resulting in the further breakdown of our once great
> society?
>
 
> Today's youth are IMO are group of dumb-downed, illiterate
> mulattos, created by the treacherous parasatic venom who
> control the media and the government. But this is just my
> opinion.

> This being said, is satellite radio worth the money
> longterm? Or within a few years will it contain the same
> insidious garbage that is on the radio and cable television
> today...resulting in the further breakdown of our once great
> society?

They said the same thing about rock and roll...

That said, satellite radio is definitely worth the money if you're not satisfied with what you've got on the dial. Can't speak for Sirius, but XM has a 40's channel and a Standards channel called "Frank's Place". Only $30 for a receiver now, so even if it does go south in a couple years and you cancel, it isn't as if you've lost a big investment.

I think there will continue to be demand for the older formats on XM though. Even in the future, XM will be a subscriber-based, not advertising-based, business, so they don't have to worry about what they can and can't sell to advertisers, and are free to serve the listeners directly.
 
The days of "The Great American Songbook" on traditional
> radio are over. They will not return because there really
> is not enough interest.


I suppose what I meant by my post it's that it's tragic that the youth of today are subjected to and interested in the KIND of music that is being produced.

OK, maybe there isn't a lot of interest in Glenn Miller...understood, but I still think NEW music recorded in a traditional theme would better serve society and today's youth. But I guess that the world is too far-gone to appreciate something as beautiful as our past culture and music. The class and charisma of our grandparents was something to be appreciated, the illiterate, vulgar, and sloppy youth of today is not.

Tragic

> That said I am not ready to go the Sirius or XM route yet.
> At this point I am hearing too many complaints from users of
> both systems about reception problems.

I actually heard what you are talking about from a salesperson of XM and Sirius. She warned me about the very thing to which you are referring. So I too have decided to wait a while longer before purchasing the service. My only concern is that within a few years the 50's channel and the Sinatra Style stuff will be replaced with the garbage of today.

After all...who will pay for a service that features traditional music and culture? God Forbid.
 
> I actually heard what you are talking about from a
> salesperson of XM and Sirius. She warned me about the very
> thing to which you are referring.

I've had Sirius for more than 15 months. Sure, in the burbs (away from the repeaters in Center City and Conshohocken) there are drop outs when driving. They don't keep me from listening. I don't think the signal drop outs are too bad.

So I too have decided to
> wait a while longer before purchasing the service. My only
> concern is that within a few years the 50's channel and the
> Sinatra Style stuff will be replaced with the garbage of
> today.
>
> After all...who will pay for a service that features
> traditional music and culture? God Forbid.
>

Satellite radio is often compared to cable TV. TV Land's classic TV is still around (and it plays almost a whole day of Bonanza on Saturdays). And Nick at Nite is airing "the next generation" of classic TV.
There's hope for American Standards to hang around on satellite. After all: Classical music is older music than Standards, and it's still on satellite and some terrestrial stations.
 
The class and charisma of our grandparents was
> something to be appreciated, the illiterate, vulgar, and
> sloppy youth of today is not.
>
> Tragic

Maybe you should actually plop yourself down and force yourself to listen to the intelligence that is Kanye West instead of just writing him off.
 
Sure sign of old age

This is probably the same thing your parents said about your music and your friends.

Your use of the word "mulatto" is interesting. Are you also a bigot?
You may recall early rock was criticized at the time as "race music" and racists of the day feared it would inflame "animal passions" and lead to "race mixing."


>
> It's a shame that the youth of our country has been so
> polluted with garbage and mindless trash...and we see the
> effects of it in their behavior. The days of speaking
> properly and dressing well are gone. There is no culture in
> today's youth, nothing sets apart one person's individuality
> from another's.
>
> Today's youth are IMO are group of dumb-downed, illiterate
> mulattos, created by the treacherous parasatic venom who
> control the media and the government. But this is just my
> opinion.
>
>
 
> It's still hard for me to believe that we live in a nation
> in which classic artists from the Great American Songbook no
> longer have a legitimate space on the dial...
>
> I think it's very disturbing that traditional, wholesome
> music has been replaced with:
>
> I AIN'T SAYIN' SHE A GOLDDIGGA...etc.
>
> It's a shame that the youth of our country has been so
> polluted with garbage and mindless trash...and we see the
> effects of it in their behavior. The days of speaking
> properly and dressing well are gone. There is no culture in
> today's youth, nothing sets apart one person's individuality
> from another's.
>
> Today's youth are IMO are group of dumb-downed, illiterate
> mulattos, created by the treacherous parasatic venom who
> control the media and the government. But this is just my
> opinion.
>
> This being said, is satellite radio worth the money
> longterm? Or within a few years will it contain the same
> insidious garbage that is on the radio and cable television
> today...resulting in the further breakdown of our once great
> society?
>

Your parents probably said the same thing when rock and pop music was popular during the 60s and 70s. <P ID="signature">______________
Happy Holidays</P>
 
Sincerest form of flattery

If you are going to steal my line, at least give me credit.

>
> Your parents probably said the same thing when rock and pop
> music was popular during the 60s and 70s.
>
 
Who's Line Is It Anyway?

Not the most original line is it? Seems like we've heard that before.
But, if you must have credit for it, it's yours.
He probably didn't read your post.
It is true though, and I think, not just a generational issue, there does seems to be a lack of decorum in our culture.
What's The Matter With Kids These Days?


, > If you are going to steal my line, at least give me credit.
 
Re: Who's Line Is It Anyway?

> What's The Matter With Kids These Days?
>
>
Credit where credit is due:

Bye,Bye Birdie, 1960
Music by Charles Strouse
Lyrics by Lee Adams

Source: Internet Broadway Database
Sung by Paul Lynde

For Hollywood Squares quotes from Paul Lynde, go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Lynde
 
Re: Sincerest form of flattery

> If you are going to steal my line, at least give me credit.

Didn't read your post, sorry.

I'm sure many other people would have said the same thing as you.


>
<P ID="signature">______________
Happy Holidays</P>
 
And the winner is Bierkenstock!

Your use of the word "mulatto" is interesting. Are you also
> a bigot?
> You may recall early rock was criticized at the time as
> "race music" and racists of the day feared it would inflame
> "animal passions" and lead to "race mixing."

I've found that it is impossible to have a rational conversation with "loony labelers" and those who are so brain-washed and dumb that they are unable to think outside of the box...This reply isn't for the benefit of Mr. Bierkenstock, or Mr SCRhack...as they have so obviously demonstrated they
are unable to rationalize or think on their own...but perhaps others who aren't dumbed-down by the foolish televison programs they embrace or editorials they read will understand.

Webster's dictionary defines mulatto as "the first generation offspring of a white and a black person." It makes no reference to your tired and inappropriate and downright incorrect label of bigotry or racism.

It's interesting to me to be labeled a "racist"...especially by feeble minded individuals who are NEVER able to produce a shred of evidence of it.

There was a time in which this term was considered the "norm." In fact, on a broad scale, it wasn't too long ago. But I suppose by your standards, Mr. Bierkenstock, it is NOW a racist term, correct? And why is that? Could it be because a certain university professor has made it so? Or is it because the media has shunned it? The truth is Mr. Bierkenstock, if you are able to get your head out of your ass just momentarily and THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, the accepted "norm" changes frequently amongst these individuals...and quite frankly, just because the "Founding Father hating" professors and the media have shunned it, it is not necessarily a word that should appropriately be labeled "racist." I expect that within a few years the term "African American" will be considered racist. Does that mean all of us who use it today are future racists? I think not. But you haven't thought of that have you Mr. Bierkenstock? Of course not, you have demonstrated that you are a trained monkey, as is Mr. SCRhack.

Have you ever thought of anything on your own Mr. Bierkenstock? I doubt it...since you automatically accuse me of being a bigot without knowing anything about me. Your accusations are unfounded, and your LACK of credible evidence that I am a bigot has proven that my response will be outside of your capacity to understand...but as I have stated, it isn't for you.

I used the term "mulatto," because in my estimation, a kid whose skin is white, but who embraces the thug life of crime, gangs, prostitution, shootings, and vulgarity which are all factors of rap music, has qualities similar to those of a mulatoo...in other words, he doesn't know if he is black or white.

He has never read Caesar, he has never had an appreciation for the ancient Greeks, the magnificence of The Roman Empire, and the brilliant authors, poets, politicians, doctors, sculptors, and artists that these times produced. He has never had an appreciation for our "Founding Fathers," who have been labeled racists and anarchists by your way of thinking. The Founding Fathers had a vision of a utopian society, and in the early years of America, it was a possibility...But those dreams of utopia have been shattered, by YOUR way of thinking Mr. Bierkenstock. I wouldn't expect you to understand, Mr. Bierkenstock, as your "loony labeling" and blatant ignorance of words about which you know nothing have demonstrated that you are obviously unable to form a valid argument or opinion in your sheltered, little mind.

Yes Mr. Bierkenstock, the truth is that I find you, and Mr. SCRhack mentally uninspiring...your unfounded "loony labeling" has no basis in fact, and you CANNOT and WILL NOT EVER be able to prove that I am a racist. All you will ever be able to do is call me names, and that only proves that you have the mental capacity of a five year old.

The truth is Mr. Bierkenstock, my lady friend and I appreciate the finer things in life. Traveling, reading about ancient civilizations and intersting people, dining with intelligent people who share similar interests...just to name a few. All of our friends are educated, and they are all white. Does this mean that I am a racist? No it does not...but the truth is that I haven't found that the black people I've met stimulate me mentally. Does this make them bad? No it does not. Whites and blacks are usually different, we share different ideals and styles of living. Are you aware of this, Mr. Bierkenstock? Or in your world, do we all hold hands and sing Kum-Ba-Ya?

I probably know more about the black man's struggle than you Mr. Bierkenstock...I have read a lot of books on the history of this nation...and even books on the history of Africa. That is why I am able to say that we are mostly different. The black people I have met are not interested in the Fall Of The Roman Empire, or the biographies of our Founding Fathers, or many other historical topics that peak my interest, so I have little reason to embrace their culture, as they have little reason to embrace mine. That is the reason that my own circle is white...but I wouldn't expect you to understand that, Mr. Bierkenstock, as your "loony labeling" has clearly shown that you have a brain about the size of a shot glass. By your standards, I'm sure that this post has proven that I am Hitler...but spare yourself the embarassment of responding sir, as you need not further embarass yourself. In fact...you, Mr. Bierkenstock, have shown me that you have about as much intelligence of a typical thug embracing mulatto. From now on sir, you will be know as Mulattokenstock.

Does my desire to spend quality time with those who share my educational background, means of income, or other similarities make me selfish? I have pondered this. But I've come to the conclusion that it does not. I choose to spend my time to celebrate MYSELF and educate MYSELF. If I am selfish because I care to further my own agenda rather that help a deaf, dumb, blind, lesbian in a wheel-chair, than so be it.

There are certainly legitimate causes for advancing those less fortunate than I. But in my opinion, those causes are best suited for people of average or below average intelligence...such as you Mr. Mulattokenstock. Perhaps you should consider becoming an activist. Activists have no desire or abilty to improve themselves as INDIVIDUALS. They focus on the advancement of an entire cause. You have clearly demonstrated that you are suited for activism, since you are influenced by the "norm." Yes, Mr. Mulattokenstock, you lack individuality, personality, and the instinct to come to your own conclusions about a particular subject. You are incapable of individual thought, INDIVIDUAL advancement and the ability to analyze EVIDENCE, so join an activist group.

In the group you will be told WHAT to think, and HOW to advance the groups agenda. No individual input will be required on your part. This should be appropriate for you.

One final thought...Mr Mulattokenstock, again, you need not reply. Your loony labeling, name calling and false accusations of bigotry are mentally un-inspiring. You and Mr. Mulattoschrack have demonstrated blatant idiocy and your comments are laughable at best. And there is NOTHING you will EVER be able to post to contradict this.
 
Re: And the winner is Bierkenstock!

.This reply isn't for the benefit of Mr.
> Bierkenstock, or Mr SCRhack...

If you keep insinuating that every poster on this board is a male (Mr. this and Mr. that) then they will also begin to label you as sexist!! ;)
 
Re: And the winner is Bierkenstock!

> I used the term "mulatto," because in my estimation, a kid
> whose skin is white, but who embraces the thug life of
> crime, gangs, prostitution, shootings, and vulgarity which
> are all factors of rap music, has qualities similar to those
> of a mulatoo...in other words, he doesn't know if he is
> black or white.

But why does a white boy who turns to guns, gangs and thug life have to be labeled as someone who doesn't know if he is balck or white? Troubled youth is troubled youth, regardless of color. Have you ever heard of the Mafia? Probably just as "thugish" as any street gang and guess what, 99% white!!

Although your comments may not be the text book definition of racism, they are very closed minded, in my opinion.



> Whites and blacks are usually
> different, we share different ideals and styles of living.

And the more you (and those who think like you) make black and white, "us and them" references, the more you help to perpetuate closed minded stereo-types.


>
> I probably know more about the black man's struggle than you
> Mr. Bierkenstock...I have read a lot of books on the history
> of this nation...and even books on the history of Africa.
> That is why I am able to say that we are mostly different.

I have read books about medicine, that doesn't make a doctor!

> The black people I have met are not interested in the Fall
> Of The Roman Empire, or the biographies of our Founding
> Fathers, or many other historical topics that peak my
> interest, so I have little reason to embrace their culture,
> as they have little reason to embrace mine.

I know lots of white people that have zero interest in the aforementioned topics too, I guess that makes them mulatto's by your standards, correct?

> That is the
> reason that my own circle is white...but I wouldn't expect
> you to understand that, Mr. Bierkenstock, as your "loony
> labeling" has clearly shown that you have a brain about the
> size of a shot glass.
> By your standards, I'm sure that this
> post has proven that I am Hitler...but spare yourself the
> embarassment of responding sir, as you need not further
> embarass yourself. In fact...you, Mr. Bierkenstock, have
> shown me that you have about as much intelligence of a
> typical thug embracing mulatto. From now on sir, you will
> be know as Mulattokenstock.

Just because Bierk feels your comments were racist by the standard of society and he responded to that on a radio board, he is now half black...that is what you are saying, correct? Now let me follow the rest of your thought process...since he is "half black", he is dumb, correct? How is that not racist?

>
> Does my desire to spend quality time with those who share my
> educational background, means of income, or other
> similarities make me selfish? I have pondered this. But
> I've come to the conclusion that it does not. I choose to
> spend my time to celebrate MYSELF and educate MYSELF. If I
> am selfish because I care to further my own agenda rather
> that help a deaf, dumb, blind, lesbian in a wheel-chair,
> than so be it.

But if your agenda means spewing comments about how one race is superior to another, take your agenda to a board that will embrace you.

>
> There are certainly legitimate causes for advancing those
> less fortunate than I. But in my opinion, those causes are
> best suited for people of average or below average
> intelligence...such as you Mr. Mulattokenstock. Perhaps you
> should consider becoming an activist. Activists have no
> desire or abilty to improve themselves as INDIVIDUALS. They
> focus on the advancement of an entire cause. You have
> clearly demonstrated that you are suited for activism, since
> you are influenced by the "norm." Yes, Mr. Mulattokenstock,
> you lack individuality, personality, and the instinct to
> come to your own conclusions about a particular subject.
> You are incapable of individual thought, INDIVIDUAL
> advancement and the ability to analyze EVIDENCE, so join an
> activist group.
>
> In the group you will be told WHAT to think, and HOW to
> advance the groups agenda. No individual input will be
> required on your part. This should be appropriate for you.

There is a group that embraces the same thoughts you hav put into words on this board too, it's called the (BLEEP).
 
Re: And the winner is Bierkenstock!

This is going to be fun. Why or how did you think you could win?

But why does a white boy who turns to guns, gangs and thug life have to be labeled as someone who doesn't know if he is balck or white?

He doesn't. I am SPECIFICALLY referring to a white boy who embraces rap music, vulgarity, and thug life . Perhaps you hadn't read the other post, which was the source of the beginning of this conversation. It is rap music, that is predominantly a form of black culture that was the original topic. A white thug who dresses and acts similar to members of black gangs in the ghetto, to me, has qualities similar to those of a mulatto.

Troubled youth is troubled youth, regardless of color. Have you ever heard of the Mafia? Probably just as "thugish" as any street gang and guess what, 99% white!!

Agreed. But that is a moot point. Remember, the topic is rap music. In order to win, YOU MUST SUBMIT EVIDENCE THAT IS RELATED TO THE TOPIC AT HAND. Outside evidence that has NO BEARING on what is being discussed only demonstrates that you DO NOT have the power to persuade.

And the more you (and those who think like you) make black and white, "us and them" references, the more you help to perpetuate closed minded stereo-types.

You will never erase stereo-types. Good or bad, they will always be a part of our culture. There are significant differences between races and cultures...I don't make the rules sir, I only observe them. Stereo-types can actually be a positive aspect in society. It keeps us aware that there are differences among different kinds of people. Do you want to live in a world in which everyone is exactly alike? How boring would that be?

I have read books about medicine, that doesn't make a doctor!

Another moot point. That doesn't at all contribute to your argument...what are you suggesting? That I claim to be an expert on black culture because I have read books about Africa? That's absurd. That is not at all what I am saying. But again, there are differences between us and to pretend that there aren't differences is childish...to say that there aren't differences makes you someone who is generalizing the HUMAN race which makes you sound MORE stereo typical than I. Nice try, but no points on that one.

I know lots of white people that have zero interest in the aforementioned topics too, I guess that makes them mulatto's by your standards, correct?

Each line of yours becomes more foolish than the last. Again, you are generalizing! And it is blatantly obvious. Pay attention!! You should have known you would lose. I hate having to explain myself to those who have been brain-washed and don't even recognize it, because it's a waste of time.

I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED HOW AND WHY I CORRELATE WHITES, RAP MUSIC, AND MULATTOS. If you consider it racist, that is your opinion, but you are wrong.
I REFUSE to explain it again. You are attempting to get me to admit that I am generalizing, and I won't do it.

There are characteristics that set apart different races and cultures, as there are differences among those who share the SAME culture. To suggest that I believe ALL white people who DO NOT share my interests are mulattos shows that you DO NOT have the ability to think outside of the box. It shows that you are making false accusations that are not based in fact. It shows that your arguments lack evidence. You are making a fool of yourself...SO STOP!

Just because Bierk feels your comments were racist by the standard of society and he responded to that on a radio board, he is now half black...that is what you are saying, correct?

This is a waste of time...your whole RESPONSE is a waste of time. While I believe his response was foolish, though only half as foolish as yours, I was demonstrating my use of satire. Aren't you able to recognize satire and sarcasm? Rembember...the term "Mulattokenstock?" My original response consisted of my own explanations COMBINED with a slight use of satire...I'm sorry you are too dumbed-down to notice the difference.

Now let me follow the rest of your thought process...since he is "half black", he is dumb, correct? How is that not racist?

It's amazing how some people ACTUALLY believe they have the INTELLIGENCE to respond to a particular subject about which they know nothing. You have just demonstrated that you are even MORE foolish than Mr. Mulattokenstock, or Mr. MulattoSCRhack, or a thug embracing mulatto.

NOWHERE in my original post did I infer that blacks are dumb!!! I said in general, we don't share similar interests! I HAVE NEVER WRITTEN ON THIS BOARD THAT BLACKS ARE DUMB. YOU DID NOT SEE THOSE WORDS IN MY POST! For you to be able to write this shows that YOU sir, have a PRECONCEIVED NOTION IN YOUR MIND that blacks are inferior to whites. NOW who is the RACIST?


But if your agenda means spewing comments about how one race is superior to another, take your agenda to a board that will embrace you.

I have just PROVEN who is the racist Mister-mulatto-microphone...so why don't YOU take YOUR agenda to a board that will embrace YOU!

There is a group that embraces the same thoughts you have put into words on this board too, it's called the (BLEEP).

Yes sir!!!! You have successfully demonstrated that YOU are a loony labeler. I know what you were trying to type, the board WILL NOT allow it to be typed! Anyone who acknowledges differences between races and cultures belongs in the (BLEEP), correct? You are capable of LESS intellectual and individual thought than Mulattokenstock and MulattoSCRhack combined, perhaps you can empty the trash at the end of their activist meeting.

You should have known you would lose. Care to embarass yourself any further?
 
Re: And the winner is Bierkenstock!

>
> Webster's dictionary defines mulatto as "the first
> generation offspring of a white and a black person." It
> makes no reference to your tired and inappropriate and
> downright incorrect label of bigotry or racism.

And it doesn't define what tastes said person may have in any form of entertainment. Therefore, applying the term to someone based on their tastes or interests is, in fact, erroneous, no matter what your "estimation" may be. If you want to cite textbook definitions in an argument, let's stick to textbook definitions throughout.


>
> I used the term "mulatto," because in my estimation, a kid
> whose skin is white, but who embraces the thug life of
> crime, gangs, prostitution, shootings, and vulgarity which
> are all factors of rap music, has qualities similar to those
> of a mulatoo...in other words, he doesn't know if he is
> black or white.
>
Again, the dictionary definition you yourself cited is about physical characteristics, not what you ascribe to them based on the music they may listen to.


> He has never read Caesar,
By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

>he has never had an appreciation
> for the ancient Greeks, the magnificence of The Roman
> Empire, and the brilliant authors, poets, politicians,
> doctors, sculptors, and artists that these times produced.
By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

> He has never had an appreciation for our "Founding Fathers,"
> who have been labeled racists and anarchists by your way of
> thinking.
By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

> The Founding Fathers had a vision of a utopian
> society,
True, one that included slaves. But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

> and in the early years of America, it was a
> possibility...But those dreams of utopia have been
> shattered, by YOUR way of thinking Mr. Bierkenstock. I
> wouldn't expect you to understand, Mr. Bierkenstock, as your
> "loony labeling"
Hmmm, sounds like someone has come up with their own label to label those who dare to label him. Must be what Elton John was singing about in "The Circle of Life." But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?


> and blatant ignorance of words about which
> you know nothing have demonstrated that you are obviously
> unable to form a valid argument or opinion in your
> sheltered, little mind.
>
> Yes Mr. Bierkenstock, the truth is that I find you, and Mr.
> SCRhack mentally uninspiring...your unfounded "loony
> labeling" has no basis in fact, and you CANNOT and WILL NOT
> EVER be able to prove that I am a racist. All you will ever
> be able to do is call me names,
Kind of like the way you make fun of the screen names of those who disagree with you, and call someone loony. But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?


> and that only proves that
> you have the mental capacity of a five year old.
Let's see...someone can't say you sound like something (in this case a racist or bigot) without evidence. Fair enough. So where's your proof that any other poster doesn't function mentally above that of a child? The fact that they disagree with you? Assailing someone's intelligence is hardly the mark of someone who can win a debate on merit alone. But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?


>
> The truth is Mr. Bierkenstock, my lady friend and I
> appreciate the finer things in life.
By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

>Traveling, reading
> about ancient civilizations and intersting people, dining
> with intelligent people who share similar interests...just
> to name a few.
By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

> All of our friends are educated, and they
> are all white. Does this mean that I am a racist? No it
> does not...but the truth is that I haven't found that the
> black people I've met stimulate me mentally.
By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

> Does this make
> them bad? No it does not. Whites and blacks are usually
> different, we share different ideals and styles of living.
By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

> Are you aware of this, Mr. Bierkenstock? Or in your world,
> do we all hold hands and sing Kum-Ba-Ya?
By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember? Unless, maybe it's a rap version...now THAT would be kickin'! But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?


>
> I probably know more about the black man's struggle than you
> Mr. Bierkenstock...I have read a lot of books on the history
> of this nation...and even books on the history of Africa.
Oh wow, BOOKS. That clearly makes one qualified to know the situation first hand. Yet again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

> That is why I am able to say that we are mostly different.
> The black people I have met are not interested in the Fall
> Of The Roman Empire, or the biographies of our Founding
> Fathers, or many other historical topics that peak my
> interest, so I have little reason to embrace their culture,
> as they have little reason to embrace mine.
By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

> That is the
> reason that my own circle is white...but I wouldn't expect
> you to understand that, Mr. Bierkenstock, as your "loony
> labeling" has clearly shown that you have a brain about the
> size of a shot glass. By your standards, I'm sure that this
> post has proven that I am Hitler...but spare yourself the
> embarassment of responding sir, as you need not further
> embarass yourself.
He'd likely be more embarrassed if he forgot that second "r" twice in once sentence. But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?


> In fact...you, Mr. Bierkenstock, have
> shown me that you have about as much intelligence of a
> typical thug embracing mulatto.
Maybe you just forgot to quote the part of the dictionary definition that talks about how people who share a certain physical characteristic must also share lower intelligence and tastes in entertainment. Must have been an oversight. After all, we are talking only about what Webster's says, aren't we? Or are only you qualified to determine what those additinoal characteristics all by virtue of reading books on the black man's struggle? But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?


> From now on sir, you will
> be know as Mulattokenstock.
Incapable of referring to someone by their chosen screen name, are we?

>
> Does my desire to spend quality time with those who share my
> educational background, means of income, or other
> similarities make me selfish? I have pondered this. But
> I've come to the conclusion that it does not. I choose to
> spend my time to celebrate MYSELF and educate MYSELF.
Keep trying, maybe someday you'll succeed. But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?


> If I
> am selfish because I care to further my own agenda rather
> that help a deaf, dumb, blind, lesbian in a wheel-chair,
> than so be it.
And how is that relevant to rap music again? You know, how you chastised others for going off topic?

>
> There are certainly legitimate causes for advancing those
> less fortunate than I. But in my opinion, those causes are
> best suited for people of average or below average
> intelligence...such as you Mr. Mulattokenstock. Perhaps you
> should consider becoming an activist. Activists have no
> desire or abilty to improve themselves as INDIVIDUALS.
Good to know you're not one who generalizes, the way you so graciously take others to task for doing and say you never do. But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?


> They
> focus on the advancement of an entire cause. You have
> clearly demonstrated that you are suited for activism, since
> you are influenced by the "norm." Yes, Mr. Mulattokenstock,
> you lack individuality, personality, and the instinct to
> come to your own conclusions about a particular subject.
> You are incapable of individual thought, INDIVIDUAL
> advancement and the ability to analyze EVIDENCE, so join an
> activist group.
>
> In the group you will be told WHAT to think, and HOW to
> advance the groups agenda.
Just like at the klan meeting. Ooops, sorry, that was a generalization like you just made. But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?


> No individual input will be
> required on your part. This should be appropriate for you.
>
> One final thought...Mr Mulattokenstock, again, you need not
> reply. Your loony labeling, name calling and false
> accusations of bigotry are mentally un-inspiring.
Must be a sign of mental inspiration to call someone a name and chastise them for name calling all in the same sentence. But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?
 
Re: And the winner is Bierkenstock!

And it doesn't define what tastes said person may have in any form of entertainment. Therefore, applying the term to someone based on their tastes or interests is, in fact, erroneous, no matter what your "estimation" may be. If you want to cite textbook definitions in an argument, let's stick to textbook definitions throughout.

Give it up. Your attempt to discredit me is pathetic. My "estimation" is that you have the inability to make a correlation between two separate ideas, topics, or words. While in the literal sense they may not be identical, I have identified a SIMILARITY...that is all. It is called speaking METAPHORICALLY. Another example...since you are a wordsmith. ANALOGY...Homerjay is to ignorant as metaphor is to commonplace.

I have written that I detest music that embraces the thug life, as it is a breakdown in our society in my estimation or opinion. And I will stand by it. It is my opinion, and I have a right to it. But that is not even the MAIN point now. Your lack of candor, and your foolishness are the focus of THIS particular post. It won't be difficult to demonstrate your mental mediocrity...as you have done most of the work for me. But for the benefit of those who may have missed it...I shall proceed.


>By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

No...not at all. Rap music was mentioned, but in an attempt to discredit a false accusation of racism or bigotry on my part, my post went in different directions. What I said was that WHILE ON THE SUBJECT OF RAP MUSIC, the evidence needed to be about rap music...but rap music was not discussed exclusively, as you have incorrectly suggested.

By your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point.

How many times are you going to type this? Your argument is tiresome and feeble-minded...it needs variety, and evidence, not repetition...moving forward.

>True, one that included slaves.

Ah...another Founding Father hater! The argument was not about slavery...200 years ago it was the norm, whether it was right or wrong is irrelevant in THIS forum. If you knew anything about history you would know that in those days it was widely believed that slavery was acceptable. Of course we now know that it is not...but for you to discredit those who founded this nation and risked their lives and properties so that you could have a better life is shameful, irresponsible and arrogant. I will pay for your one way ticket the hell out of here if it is so bad for you.

>Kind of like the way you make fun of the screen names of those who disagree with you, and call someone loony. But again, by your own argument in subsequent posts, not relevant to the point. You're talking about rap music only, remember?

Contradicting you and demonstrating your fallacies is probably one of the easiest things I have ever done. Pay attention...You strike me as a college educated know-it-all, but that piece of paper we share doesn't mean a damn thing to me...nor should it mean anything to you...as you are incapable of your own conclusions or deviating from the current "norm"...which is subject to change whenever the establishment deems it appropriate.

It's not a matter of demeaning those who disagree with me. But when mass-media mental-meltdown individuals such as yourself and the others decide that because my mores may contradict the so-called "norm," I consider it a personal attack, and I will demonstrate to the fullest extent that their positions are not only incorrect, but their inability to think outside the box shows that their self-destructive, diversity celebrating, xenophobia is instrumental in destroying their potential for individual thought and rationale.

I use the term xenophobia, because xenophobia is a fear of foreigners...or in this case...the fear of foreign thought. My thinking is foreign to most, it is misunderstood by the masses, and so it is labeled as racist or bigoted. I won't allow victims of the brain-washing universities, electronic media, and press to get away with it.

Mr. SCRhack has called me out, but unfortunately for him, he won't stand a chance in furthering his agenda over mine...his loony labeling has shown that he too has a mind full of fallacies. It's unfortunate, because I don't think he is a bad guy. I'm sure you too have excellent qualities, which is more than I can say for what you have written about me.

Getting back to your last line...
Up until now, I haven't actually called anyone loony. I said their remarks were an example of loony labeling. Are you so intellectually inferior that you cannot see this? NOW, I am calling you LOONY!!!! Yes, you are LOONY! But not because it is my opinion, but because you have demonstrated through your tiresome repetition and lack of credible evidence to discredit me that you are the east-bound end of a west-bound horse.

As far as making fun of someone's screen name, that is my use of humor or satire...they have demonstrated pure idiocy by attempting to demean me, so yes, I will use satire whenever appropriate to demonstrate how absurd their cult-like way of contemplating issues is...satire is something for which you obviously have no appreciation and wouldn't recognize if it bit you in your Founding Father Hating ass.

Assailing someone's intelligence is hardly the mark of someone who can win a debate on merit alone.

That's interesting coming from you...considering that in a future line of yours you will unsuccessfully attempt to undermine my entire argument with a minute, unrelated, simple error that I have made...the likes of which you have made in YOUR reply. I'm talking about my misspelling of one word. Sadly enough though, as your mental mediocrity will demonstrate, this simple error on my part is your best defense. That defense of yours will be exposed for the idiocy that it is, and I, with the help of your foolish, and irrelevant reply will show that your entire thought process is something of which to be made a mockery. The difference though, is that I am capable of acknowledging and admitting my errors...unfortunately though, for your own MERIT, you apparently are not.

Remember, I am not the one who made the assumption that another was a racist. That accusation was made about me, and I used the ammunition available at my disposal to discredit that incorrect assumption. In reality, one who accuses another of racism without credible evidence is displaying a low mental capacity, it is childish...just as you are successfully displaying your own low mental capacity and foolishness with your unsuccessful attempt to discredit me.

Mr. HomerJay, you are obviously selective in what you wish to acknowledge.

Websters dictionary defines acknowledge as "to take notice of." You have failed TO TAKE NOTICE OF the fact that the WHOLE post was not about rap music.

>You're talking about rap music only remember?
Nope not at all. Again, repetition instead of a multitude of evidence to support your inaccurate portrayal of what I have written...it would behoove you to take notice of your un-inspiring writings, and move forward.

>Oh wow, BOOKS. That clearly makes one qualified to know the situation first hand.

Oh wow, more IDIOCY ON YOUR PART. Forgive me while I cut my IQ in half down to your level momentarily so you may understand...I never said that, and never suggested that I knew the situation FIRST HAND. But yes, I do read, and I am making the assumption that I have read more about the subject than the other party involved.

The difference between you and I sir, is that when I read, I focus on what is written, unlike yourself, who only acknowledges what he WISHES or PRETENDS TO SEE in order to further his own incorrect, unfounded agenda.

HERE IT IS....I REALLY DIG THIS ONE!

>He'd likely be more embarrassed if he forgot that second "r" twice in once sentence.

I think you meant to say "one" sentence...I am not at all stooping to your low level of mental mediocrity, but before you undermine MY thought process, check your OWN spelling sir.

Regardless, your response is a joke...thank you for acknowledging that I misspelled a word. No I am not embaRRassed about it. I am human, and the next time I write the word I will know better! Thank you, you helped another individual, you shouldn't feel like your time was totally wasted. If your best responses are not unlike this one sir...in the future, the sign says you need not reply.

I could point out the fact that you ended most of your sentences with prepositions, but I refuse to stoop to your low level of childish arrogance, foolishness, and ignorance. Is this the best you can do? If you wish to discredit my argument based on the misspelling of a word, than it should be obvious to you that your attempt is "erroneous"...just to quote the most intelligent thing you have written.

>Just like at the klan meeting. Ooops, sorry, that was a generalization like you just made.

Absolutely pathetic...your inability to write anything worthwhile has further demonstrated that you are no better than the others...you too are a loony labeler...no, I take that back. You are just loony.

Your only achievement thusfar is the demonstation of your own absurdity...another example of mass-media mental mediocrity. From this day forward...Mr. HomerJay, you will be known as MulattoJay...but not because the term is offensive in a literal sense. Even if I am speaking metaphorically, my best defense against your idiocy is the fact that you have allowed me to take an ordinary word that in reality contains NO offensive characteristics and use it against you. And the sole reason? Because the mass cult-like ways of thinking have given me the power to do so through their incorrect assessments of the English language...be sure to thank your "inner-circle" for me.

Mr. MulattoJay, you too have failed in your attempt to contradict or undermine my thought process. You have only advanced your own embaRRassment, as have the others...would you care to embaRRass yourself further?
 
Re: Who's Line Is It Anyway?

> What's The Matter With Kids These Days?
>
>
From where I sit, it ain't just the kids. There's a big absence of decorum in plenty of other places in our culture, e.g. AM talk radio, Paris Hilton, the Swift Boat crowd, Howard Stern.... I could go on. Don't just blame the kids.
 
> The class and charisma of our grandparents was
> > something to be appreciated, the illiterate, vulgar, and
> > sloppy youth of today is not.
> >
> > Tragic
>
> Maybe you should actually plop yourself down and force
> yourself to listen to the intelligence that is Kanye West
> instead of just writing him off.
>
I think Kanye West may have just contributed to the Great American Songbook, like it or not. Personally, I like it.
 
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