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is jeff roper on his way out?
- Thread starter funyet
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If you'll notice, WCOS lost cume this go-round too. Between the two Double O stations in Columbia, they have almost a five-share in 12+ numbers. Not too shabby for two baby signals which were all zeros this time last year. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither are good radio stations. To compare two stations which aren't Class C with a heritage big stick like WCOS is a little asanine frankly.
And for what it's worth, I happen to think Jeff is a great guy. And I've spent enough time with him to make that judgement. I sincerely hope those who speak negatively about him at least know him well enough to form an opinion, rather than speaking speculatively. I truly struggle to understand why some folks are obsessed with the hope he'll fail. Let's face it...with his talent, Roper will always land on his feet.
And for what it's worth, I happen to think Jeff is a great guy. And I've spent enough time with him to make that judgement. I sincerely hope those who speak negatively about him at least know him well enough to form an opinion, rather than speaking speculatively. I truly struggle to understand why some folks are obsessed with the hope he'll fail. Let's face it...with his talent, Roper will always land on his feet.
S
Stifflers_Mom
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Anyone else hear that a certain morning show guy is packing his bags and heading to the rainy city of seattle?
Kind sir, if you paid any attention at all, you'd know quite certainly that I'm NOT Jeff Roper. Perhaps since this is your very first post, you aren't familiar with some of the very great and productive conversations we have here about REAL radio business issues, rather than useless gossip, conjecture and negativity about another member of our industry.
Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to 'out' me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have ever been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my email and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff Roper. At least nobody who's a regular here.
Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to 'out' me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have ever been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my email and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff Roper. At least nobody who's a regular here.
maybe your browser shows something mine doesn't, but i didn't read where "stiffler" even remotely insinuated that you were anyone, muchless roper.
> Kind sir, if you paid any attention at all, you'd know quite
> certainly that I'm NOT Jeff Roper. Perhaps since this is
> your very first post, you aren't familiar with some of the
> very great and productive conversations we have here about
> REAL radio business issues, rather than useless gossip,
> conjecture and negativity about another member of our
> industry.
>
> Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to 'out'
> me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my
> posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have ever
> been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my email
> and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll
> figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
>
> No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff Roper.
> At least nobody who's a regular here.
>
> Kind sir, if you paid any attention at all, you'd know quite
> certainly that I'm NOT Jeff Roper. Perhaps since this is
> your very first post, you aren't familiar with some of the
> very great and productive conversations we have here about
> REAL radio business issues, rather than useless gossip,
> conjecture and negativity about another member of our
> industry.
>
> Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to 'out'
> me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my
> posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have ever
> been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my email
> and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll
> figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
>
> No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff Roper.
> At least nobody who's a regular here.
>
What a great post! Someone who "gets it" on this board! I've never seen anyone more attacked than Jeff. What is with these people and how much they hate this guy...and they hate. Now, research shows that Jeff is still the number one name in morning radio in Columbia. That is fact.
> Kind sir, if you paid any attention at all, you'd know quite
> certainly that I'm NOT Jeff Roper. Perhaps since this is
> your very first post, you aren't familiar with some of the
> very great and productive conversations we have here about
> REAL radio business issues, rather than useless gossip,
> conjecture and negativity about another member of our
> industry.
>
> Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to 'out'
> me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my
> posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have ever
> been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my email
> and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll
> figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
>
> No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff Roper.
> At least nobody who's a regular here.
>
> Kind sir, if you paid any attention at all, you'd know quite
> certainly that I'm NOT Jeff Roper. Perhaps since this is
> your very first post, you aren't familiar with some of the
> very great and productive conversations we have here about
> REAL radio business issues, rather than useless gossip,
> conjecture and negativity about another member of our
> industry.
>
> Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to 'out'
> me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my
> posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have ever
> been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my email
> and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll
> figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
>
> No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff Roper.
> At least nobody who's a regular here.
>
> What a great post! Someone who "gets it" on this board!
> I've never seen anyone more attacked than Jeff. What is
> with these people and how much they hate this guy...and they
> hate. Now, research shows that Jeff is still the number one
> name in morning radio in Columbia. That is fact.
I have never seen Jeff be rude to anyone, ever. He seems very easy to approach and likeable. But every single one of his former co-hosts, and some of his other co-workers, have openly talked about his violent temper and ego-driven meaness. It's weird. I personally want the guy to do well. On the few occasions I have encountered him, he has been nothing but a gentleman. It seems genuine. As for reseach, apparently those people have not been getting a diary.
> I've never seen anyone more attacked than Jeff. What is
> with these people and how much they hate this guy...and they
> hate. Now, research shows that Jeff is still the number one
> name in morning radio in Columbia. That is fact.
I have never seen Jeff be rude to anyone, ever. He seems very easy to approach and likeable. But every single one of his former co-hosts, and some of his other co-workers, have openly talked about his violent temper and ego-driven meaness. It's weird. I personally want the guy to do well. On the few occasions I have encountered him, he has been nothing but a gentleman. It seems genuine. As for reseach, apparently those people have not been getting a diary.
hey, i just randomly clicked sc and saw this thread. i worked with roper as a part timer at wsoc. he was an absolutely great guy for a while. then he got stucked with the pd duties which we all know added lots of pressure to his job.
i think the people that say he is rude are speaking from that time period at wsoc. again, before he had the added pressure of pd put on him, he was a great guy that i looked up to a lot.
jj mccain
i think the people that say he is rude are speaking from that time period at wsoc. again, before he had the added pressure of pd put on him, he was a great guy that i looked up to a lot.
jj mccain
> maybe your browser shows something mine doesn't, but i
> didn't read where "stiffler" even remotely insinuated that
> you were anyone, muchless roper.
The reason for this is very simple. After Stiffler realized he kicked a dog with teeth, he edited his post. To his credit, he was smart enough to uncheck the "mark this post as edited" box before re-submitting. His post, when originally submitted, stated something to this effect: "Anybody else with me in thinking it was Roper who made that post?", referring to my statement that Jeff is a nice guy and such.
And for the record, I hold Stiffler in even lower regard now than I did a couple days ago. I can handle his opinion about Jeff Roper. That's his prerogative. However, I have absolutely no respect for somebody who'll make a post, then delete part of it when confronted, in order to make somebody else (me, in this instance) look like an idiot. This shows a genuine lack of integrity. If this gentleman worked at one of my stations and pulled something like that, he'd be in the unemployment line so fast his head would spin.
Stiffler, I hope you'll recognize Radio-Info for the wonderful resource it is, rather than a place for negative gossip-mongering and middle-school-esque behavior. You'd be amazed at how many very powerful people in our business check out this site on a daily basis. So, for the sake of all of us, please use it responsibly.
> didn't read where "stiffler" even remotely insinuated that
> you were anyone, muchless roper.
The reason for this is very simple. After Stiffler realized he kicked a dog with teeth, he edited his post. To his credit, he was smart enough to uncheck the "mark this post as edited" box before re-submitting. His post, when originally submitted, stated something to this effect: "Anybody else with me in thinking it was Roper who made that post?", referring to my statement that Jeff is a nice guy and such.
And for the record, I hold Stiffler in even lower regard now than I did a couple days ago. I can handle his opinion about Jeff Roper. That's his prerogative. However, I have absolutely no respect for somebody who'll make a post, then delete part of it when confronted, in order to make somebody else (me, in this instance) look like an idiot. This shows a genuine lack of integrity. If this gentleman worked at one of my stations and pulled something like that, he'd be in the unemployment line so fast his head would spin.
Stiffler, I hope you'll recognize Radio-Info for the wonderful resource it is, rather than a place for negative gossip-mongering and middle-school-esque behavior. You'd be amazed at how many very powerful people in our business check out this site on a daily basis. So, for the sake of all of us, please use it responsibly.
i think you've said that before on this board - about roper's research status. that really means crap in arbitron. research U.S. presidents of the last 50 years and the #1 top of mind name is jimmy carter. but ask those people who the BEST prez has been and JC's not on the list. probably samething happening to roper. people remember his name, but what people THINK about the name is what determines if people will listen. and arbitron shows people don't think much about roper. period. hey... william hung is the most remembered american idol contestant, but no one wants to hear his music. same with roper. and anyone on this board who thinks roper's show is good, is correct. its good, but not great.
> What a great post! Someone who "gets it" on this board!
> I've never seen anyone more attacked than Jeff. What is
> with these people and how much they hate this guy...and they
> hate. Now, research shows that Jeff is still the number one
> name in morning radio in Columbia. That is fact.
>
>
> > Kind sir, if you paid any attention at all, you'd know
> quite
> > certainly that I'm NOT Jeff Roper. Perhaps since this is
> > your very first post, you aren't familiar with some of the
>
> > very great and productive conversations we have here about
>
> > REAL radio business issues, rather than useless gossip,
> > conjecture and negativity about another member of our
> > industry.
> >
> > Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to 'out'
>
> > me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my
> > posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have ever
>
> > been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my email
>
> > and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll
> > figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
> >
> > No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff
> Roper.
> > At least nobody who's a regular here.
> >
>
> What a great post! Someone who "gets it" on this board!
> I've never seen anyone more attacked than Jeff. What is
> with these people and how much they hate this guy...and they
> hate. Now, research shows that Jeff is still the number one
> name in morning radio in Columbia. That is fact.
>
>
> > Kind sir, if you paid any attention at all, you'd know
> quite
> > certainly that I'm NOT Jeff Roper. Perhaps since this is
> > your very first post, you aren't familiar with some of the
>
> > very great and productive conversations we have here about
>
> > REAL radio business issues, rather than useless gossip,
> > conjecture and negativity about another member of our
> > industry.
> >
> > Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to 'out'
>
> > me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my
> > posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have ever
>
> > been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my email
>
> > and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll
> > figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
> >
> > No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff
> Roper.
> > At least nobody who's a regular here.
> >
>
How can you compare research to U.S. Presidents to listener research? I have posted this before...and the FACT is the research is positive! However, another fact is that it really does not matter on this board. When it comes to Jeff....people on this board WANT to hate Jeff. And that's ok if they do...but they start to make their opinion as fact...and that is just wrong.
> i think you've said that before on this board - about
> roper's research status. that really means crap in arbitron.
> research U.S. presidents of the last 50 years and the #1 top
> of mind name is jimmy carter. but ask those people who the
> BEST prez has been and JC's not on the list. probably
> samething happening to roper. people remember his name, but
> what people THINK about the name is what determines if
> people will listen. and arbitron shows people don't think
> much about roper. period. hey... william hung is the most
> remembered american idol contestant, but no one wants to
> hear his music. same with roper. and anyone on this board
> who thinks roper's show is good, is correct. its good, but
> not great.
>
>
>
>
> > What a great post! Someone who "gets it" on this board!
> > I've never seen anyone more attacked than Jeff. What is
> > with these people and how much they hate this guy...and
> they
> > hate. Now, research shows that Jeff is still the number
> one
> > name in morning radio in Columbia. That is fact.
> >
> >
> > > Kind sir, if you paid any attention at all, you'd know
> > quite
> > > certainly that I'm NOT Jeff Roper. Perhaps since this is
>
> > > your very first post, you aren't familiar with some of
> the
> >
> > > very great and productive conversations we have here
> about
> >
> > > REAL radio business issues, rather than useless gossip,
> > > conjecture and negativity about another member of our
> > > industry.
> > >
> > > Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to
> 'out'
> >
> > > me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my
> > > posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have
> ever
> >
> > > been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my
> email
> >
> > > and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll
> > > figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
> > >
> > > No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff
> > Roper.
> > > At least nobody who's a regular here.
> > >
> >
>
> i think you've said that before on this board - about
> roper's research status. that really means crap in arbitron.
> research U.S. presidents of the last 50 years and the #1 top
> of mind name is jimmy carter. but ask those people who the
> BEST prez has been and JC's not on the list. probably
> samething happening to roper. people remember his name, but
> what people THINK about the name is what determines if
> people will listen. and arbitron shows people don't think
> much about roper. period. hey... william hung is the most
> remembered american idol contestant, but no one wants to
> hear his music. same with roper. and anyone on this board
> who thinks roper's show is good, is correct. its good, but
> not great.
>
>
>
>
> > What a great post! Someone who "gets it" on this board!
> > I've never seen anyone more attacked than Jeff. What is
> > with these people and how much they hate this guy...and
> they
> > hate. Now, research shows that Jeff is still the number
> one
> > name in morning radio in Columbia. That is fact.
> >
> >
> > > Kind sir, if you paid any attention at all, you'd know
> > quite
> > > certainly that I'm NOT Jeff Roper. Perhaps since this is
>
> > > your very first post, you aren't familiar with some of
> the
> >
> > > very great and productive conversations we have here
> about
> >
> > > REAL radio business issues, rather than useless gossip,
> > > conjecture and negativity about another member of our
> > > industry.
> > >
> > > Hopefully, before you take another stab at trying to
> 'out'
> >
> > > me, you'll at least be smart enough to read a few of my
> > > posts. I've made over 250 of them, none of which have
> ever
> >
> > > been about Jeff Roper. Or, you could just look at my
> >
> > > and do a nice little Google search. Either way, you'll
> > > figure out real quick that I'm not Jeff.
> > >
> > > No, sir, nobody else is with you in thinking I'm Jeff
> > Roper.
> > > At least nobody who's a regular here.
> > >
> >
>
> How can you compare research to U.S. Presidents to listener
> research? I have posted this before...and the FACT is the
> research is positive! However, another fact is that it
> really does not matter on this board. When it comes to
> Jeff....people on this board WANT to hate Jeff. And that's
> ok if they do...but they start to make their opinion as
> fact...and that is just wrong.
The point that was made is valid. Positive name recall does not always equal Arbitron numbers. Folks can love Jeff Roper all day long, but if they don't write it down... or write down WCOS, his old station, then Arbitron won't show it. It was not a great trend for the WWNU/WWNQ combo. The positive was that WCOS did not do well.
> research? I have posted this before...and the FACT is the
> research is positive! However, another fact is that it
> really does not matter on this board. When it comes to
> Jeff....people on this board WANT to hate Jeff. And that's
> ok if they do...but they start to make their opinion as
> fact...and that is just wrong.
The point that was made is valid. Positive name recall does not always equal Arbitron numbers. Folks can love Jeff Roper all day long, but if they don't write it down... or write down WCOS, his old station, then Arbitron won't show it. It was not a great trend for the WWNU/WWNQ combo. The positive was that WCOS did not do well.
thats right on. researching a name is useless in radio world. you have to research the name equity. and if tgaradio knew anything 'bout research, he would have understood the post (like you did) and wouldnt be claiming victory in name recognition. anyway fake radio (roper) is so ten years ago. fun and real (charlie james) who i use to listen to in augusta - is wallpaper but has *name equity.* roper has *name baggage.* theres a difference. tgaradio doesnt understand that. i mean really. if the research he claims to see is real why is NU losing shares every trend? but really outside of this board who cares. moving onwards & upwards.
> > How can you compare research to U.S. Presidents to
> listener
> > research? I have posted this before...and the FACT is the
>
> > research is positive! However, another fact is that it
> > really does not matter on this board. When it comes to
> > Jeff....people on this board WANT to hate Jeff. And
> that's
> > ok if they do...but they start to make their opinion as
> > fact...and that is just wrong.
>
>
> The point that was made is valid. Positive name recall does
> not always equal Arbitron numbers. Folks can love Jeff Roper
> all day long, but if they don't write it down... or write
> down WCOS, his old station, then Arbitron won't show it. It
> was not a great trend for the WWNU/WWNQ combo. The positive
> was that WCOS did not do well.
>
> > How can you compare research to U.S. Presidents to
> listener
> > research? I have posted this before...and the FACT is the
>
> > research is positive! However, another fact is that it
> > really does not matter on this board. When it comes to
> > Jeff....people on this board WANT to hate Jeff. And
> that's
> > ok if they do...but they start to make their opinion as
> > fact...and that is just wrong.
>
>
> The point that was made is valid. Positive name recall does
> not always equal Arbitron numbers. Folks can love Jeff Roper
> all day long, but if they don't write it down... or write
> down WCOS, his old station, then Arbitron won't show it. It
> was not a great trend for the WWNU/WWNQ combo. The positive
> was that WCOS did not do well.
>
if the research he claims to
> see is real why is NU losing shares every trend? but really
> outside of this board who cares. moving onwards & upwards.
The overall performance of WWNU is probably more complicated. WCOS when it was the sole player didn't get affected by the shifting tastes of the general public and the shifting quality of the current music product. By being tightly focused, WWNU is subject to a number of factors beyond their control. In addition, there may be music research issues and Arbitron sampling/recall issues as well.
It's hard to diagnose this from the sidelines.
> see is real why is NU losing shares every trend? but really
> outside of this board who cares. moving onwards & upwards.
The overall performance of WWNU is probably more complicated. WCOS when it was the sole player didn't get affected by the shifting tastes of the general public and the shifting quality of the current music product. By being tightly focused, WWNU is subject to a number of factors beyond their control. In addition, there may be music research issues and Arbitron sampling/recall issues as well.
It's hard to diagnose this from the sidelines.
My company does and has done radio research for 15 years. Researching a name is not "useless" but its more than a name that we are talking about. NU is losing shares but that is a different topic. In you 7 post on here I know your agenda.
> thats right on. researching a name is useless in radio
> world. you have to research the name equity. and if tgaradio
> knew anything 'bout research, he would have understood the
> post (like you did) and wouldnt be claiming victory in name
> recognition. anyway fake radio (roper) is so ten years ago.
> fun and real (charlie james) who i use to listen to in
> augusta - is wallpaper but has *name equity.* roper has
> *name baggage.* theres a difference. tgaradio doesnt
> understand that. i mean really. if the research he claims to
> see is real why is NU losing shares every trend? but really
> outside of this board who cares. moving onwards & upwards.
>
>
>
> > > How can you compare research to U.S. Presidents to
> > listener
> > > research? I have posted this before...and the FACT is
> the
> >
> > > research is positive! However, another fact is that it
> > > really does not matter on this board. When it comes to
> > > Jeff....people on this board WANT to hate Jeff. And
> > that's
> > > ok if they do...but they start to make their opinion as
> > > fact...and that is just wrong.
> >
> >
> > The point that was made is valid. Positive name recall
> does
> > not always equal Arbitron numbers. Folks can love Jeff
> Roper
> > all day long, but if they don't write it down... or write
> > down WCOS, his old station, then Arbitron won't show it.
> It
> > was not a great trend for the WWNU/WWNQ combo. The
> positive
> > was that WCOS did not do well.
> >
>
> thats right on. researching a name is useless in radio
> world. you have to research the name equity. and if tgaradio
> knew anything 'bout research, he would have understood the
> post (like you did) and wouldnt be claiming victory in name
> recognition. anyway fake radio (roper) is so ten years ago.
> fun and real (charlie james) who i use to listen to in
> augusta - is wallpaper but has *name equity.* roper has
> *name baggage.* theres a difference. tgaradio doesnt
> understand that. i mean really. if the research he claims to
> see is real why is NU losing shares every trend? but really
> outside of this board who cares. moving onwards & upwards.
>
>
>
> > > How can you compare research to U.S. Presidents to
> > listener
> > > research? I have posted this before...and the FACT is
> the
> >
> > > research is positive! However, another fact is that it
> > > really does not matter on this board. When it comes to
> > > Jeff....people on this board WANT to hate Jeff. And
> > that's
> > > ok if they do...but they start to make their opinion as
> > > fact...and that is just wrong.
> >
> >
> > The point that was made is valid. Positive name recall
> does
> > not always equal Arbitron numbers. Folks can love Jeff
> Roper
> > all day long, but if they don't write it down... or write
> > down WCOS, his old station, then Arbitron won't show it.
> It
> > was not a great trend for the WWNU/WWNQ combo. The
> positive
> > was that WCOS did not do well.
> >
>
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