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Is NBC Serious?

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1069_KIFR

Are they actually talking about expanding The Jay Leno Show to a full 90 minutes? Say it ain't so! I think someone has been hitting the bottle just a wee too much!!
 
Huh? Where did you hear this? That makes no sense, except for maybe a handful of NBC affiliates in tiny markets that can't afford to even do local news anymore. Even those guys would probably opt to pipe in a nearby affiliate's news as opposed to another half hour of Leno. I think what you heard must have been a joke.
 
1069_KIFR said:
Are they actually talking about expanding The Jay Leno Show to a full 90 minutes? Say it ain't so! I think someone has been hitting the bottle just a wee too much!!
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Uh...are you sure you didn't misread on of those articles about how Jay Leno is now on the air 90 minutes earlier?
 
I have not read anything on line or in the trades where NBC wants to expand Leno.
The network brass would have to be "nuts" to do something like that. Local affiliates would have a fit!
 
1069_KIFR said:
Are they actually talking about expanding The Jay Leno Show to a full 90 minutes? Say it ain't so! I think someone has been hitting the bottle just a wee too much!!
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I could just as easily say that I have heard they are talking about canceling the whole show.
And without a source, I have about as much credibility as you do!
 
Not a chance of a 90 minute show unless there's some one-off "special" in the works. On a regular basis? Not gonna happen.
 
The problem with so much that NBC does is that they are serious, but most normal people recognize that they are really nitwits.
 
Scary enough, a 30 minute daily "Best ever of" Jay Leno show just before the Jay Leno show would most likely bring in some ratings...over the Christmas break, and perhaps as summer filler...but not necessarily all the time.

I wonder what's up over at NBC...? Is Jay even bringing in better ratings than Identity did a few years back?
 
Silkie said:
The problem with so much that NBC does is that they are serious, but most normal people recognize that they are really nitwits.
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Most normal people aren't terribly concerned with the backstage business concerns of a TV network...until their fave show is cancelled, perhaps.
 
Tonight (12/1)...for the first time since Jay debuted...his show will not be shown due to the Presidential Address so they can show "The Biggest Loser" in its entirety. We will see if local affiliates get a boost tonight.

If Jay Leno goes 90 minutes five nights a week...there will be major problems. As a Leno fan...I hope NBC doesn't pull the plug on his show.
 
jal41 said:
If Jay Leno goes 90 minutes five nights a week...there will be major problems... As a Leno fan...I hope NBC doesn't pull the plug on his show.
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Let me go out on a limb here (though a short one) - a 90 minute Jay Leno Show is about as likely now as President Huckabee in 2012.

As for "pulling the plug" on the current show - I seriously doubt that it will happen any time soon. This may not be Japan, but 'saving face' is still a consideration, and I don't think NBC will be willing to cancel for many months. They're in too deep.
 
There has definitely been some tweaking though, especially in the open. The traditional 'Here's the show, featuring these guests, now your host' open has changed to 'Here's the show, now your host', followed by the mob rush upfront to Jay as the 'featuring these guests' part is said during the mob rush before the monologue. The opening, which formerly featured old pictures of Jay through his life now has current-day pictures of him in various settings instead (which is an improvement; I looked at the original title card and it makes you think Jay's going to host the show when he's 17 before his 1970 prom).
 
mrschimpf said:
There has definitely been some tweaking though, especially in the open. The traditional 'Here's the show, featuring these guests, now your host' open has changed to 'Here's the show, now your host', followed by the mob rush upfront to Jay as the 'featuring these guests' part is said during the mob rush before the monologue. The opening, which formerly featured old pictures of Jay through his life now has current-day pictures of him in various settings instead (which is an improvement; I looked at the original title card and it makes you think Jay's going to host the show when he's 17 before his 1970 prom).
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Uh...really? I suspect most people took from the former opening exactly what I took from it - here's how Jay looked when he was younger, and it must mean he's had a long career in comedy. There was nothing wrong with that.

And not to be picky, but he was born in 1950, so his senior prom would have been 1967 or 68.
 
Yeah, Leno replaced by the "Biggest Loser" tonight due to Obama's speech. Hopefully, not too much irony there.

Honestly, I like Leno. Where would I watch him more? Perhaps back at 11:30, or maybe even just a half-hour at 10 or 10:30, although sitcoms or other halfhour shows during the 10:00 hour have been rare in recent years. I would predict something to change by the February, or at the latest, May sweeps.
 
Lkeller said:
mrschimpf said:
There has definitely been some tweaking though, especially in the open. The traditional 'Here's the show, featuring these guests, now your host' open has changed to 'Here's the show, now your host', followed by the mob rush upfront to Jay as the 'featuring these guests' part is said during the mob rush before the monologue. The opening, which formerly featured old pictures of Jay through his life now has current-day pictures of him in various settings instead (which is an improvement; I looked at the original title card and it makes you think Jay's going to host the show when he's 17 before his 1970 prom).
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Uh...really? I suspect most people took from the former opening exactly what I took from it - here's how Jay looked when he was younger, and it must mean he's had a long career in comedy. There was nothing wrong with that.

And not to be picky, but he was born in 1950, so his senior prom would have been 1967 or 68.
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I understand the normal view. I was just trying to exaggerate to make fun of NBC's thinking, because they keep thinking of this program as 'the future of television scheduling', and then they completely nullified it by creating an opening sequence that was hardly looking forward at all until they changed the pictures used. It just seems to be a show that had been programmed by committee these first few months and they're beginning to realize that the long-worn late night format works because it's steady and unchanging, and doesn't need gimmicks like green car challenges and location bits by eighth-rate comedians.
 
mrschimpf said:
Lkeller said:
mrschimpf said:
There has definitely been some tweaking though, especially in the open. The traditional 'Here's the show, featuring these guests, now your host' open has changed to 'Here's the show, now your host', followed by the mob rush upfront to Jay as the 'featuring these guests' part is said during the mob rush before the monologue. The opening, which formerly featured old pictures of Jay through his life now has current-day pictures of him in various settings instead (which is an improvement; I looked at the original title card and it makes you think Jay's going to host the show when he's 17 before his 1970 prom).
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Uh...really? I suspect most people took from the former opening exactly what I took from it - here's how Jay looked when he was younger, and it must mean he's had a long career in comedy. There was nothing wrong with that.

And not to be picky, but he was born in 1950, so his senior prom would have been 1967 or 68.
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I understand the normal view. I was just trying to exaggerate to make fun of NBC's thinking, because they keep thinking of this program as 'the future of television scheduling', and then they completely nullified it by creating an opening sequence that was hardly looking forward at all until they changed the pictures used. It just seems to be a show that had been programmed by committee these first few months and they're beginning to realize that the long-worn late night format works because it's steady and unchanging, and doesn't need gimmicks like green car challenges and location bits by eighth-rate comedians.
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Sorry...didn't mean to sound grumpy. I guess it's my knee jerk reaction to the feeling that everything has to be youth oriented (25-49). If that's the case, why is Letterman beating Conan? Why does Buick insist on those using those (ugly) retro-grilles that look like their early 50s Roadmaster models? And why have retro looking Mustangs at all? I was too young to drive when the original Mustang came out and I'm turning 58 in two months.

The answer to all that is - experience and heritage still have meaning and count for something - even to young people. OK - old guy rant over.

By the way, I prefer Conan's show to Letterman, age aside.
 
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