Is that hobby Internet radio station worth $500 a year out of your pocket?

[landtuna]

Only if you define "most listeners" as male around your age. The guy has had a huge rebirth of his career, and his latest album has sold millions.

Of course you'd say they have no taste, but they don't care what you think, and prove it every day.

What I should have also said, and didn't, was having a modern pop singer cover a timeless classic (which we would consider most Christmas songs to be).

Personally, I put Bieber's stuff in the same class as the pop idols of my youth. "Tasteless" as a description would not be nearly severe enough. Nothing more comical than a privileged white Canadian kid trying to emulate something between 50-cent and Frank Sinatra.

 

[K.M. Richards]

Personally, I'm glad Creedence Clearwater Revival didn't subscribe to your philosophy, because I happen to prefer their version of "Grapevine" to either the Knight or Gaye renditions.

I am a big CCR fan but preferred the original "Grapevine". I did think CCR did a much better performance of "Proud Mary" than the Turner version (actually, hated that version).

That's fine. You can listen to whichever versions you want to and I won't try to stop you. (I liked the Ike & Tina "Proud Mary", so there's another case of personal taste, right?)

 

[CTListener]

What I should have also said, and didn't, was having a modern pop singer cover a timeless classic (which we would consider most Christmas songs to be).

Personally, I put Bieber's stuff in the same class as the pop idols of my youth. "Tasteless" as a description would not be nearly severe enough. Nothing more comical than a privileged white Canadian kid trying to emulate something between 50-cent and Frank Sinatra.

How about a middle-class university lad from Kent, studying economics, and a childhood chum majoring in art, trying to emulate African-American bluesmen?

 

[KeithE4]

How about a middle-class university lad from Kent, studying economics, and a childhood chum majoring in art, trying to emulate African-American bluesmen?

And doing so for over 50 years, despite getting into more trouble with the law than Bieber will ever hope to get into?

Miss Bieber will be totally forgotten before this decade is out unless he actually develops some talent for more than just being a royal pain in the ass, and starts sounding and acting like a man. I don't care how much money he's made -- he's not qualified to carry Mick Jagger's microphone, and never will be.

 

[landtuna]

How about a middle-class university lad from Kent, studying economics, and a childhood chum majoring in art, trying to emulate African-American bluesmen?

The 8-ball says "not enough information".

 

[KeithE4]

The 8-ball says "not enough information".

I dropped a couple of hints in my previous post.

 

[joebtsflk1]

That's fine. You can listen to whichever versions you want to and I won't try to stop you. (I liked the Ike & Tina "Proud Mary", so there's another case of personal taste, right?)

CCR fan but I liked Tina's Proud Mary, especially the Bend Me Shape Me version....shove the balance over to the channel with mostly Tina and the girls, shutting down the horns. Loads of excitement, no trumpets necessary.

 

[landtuna]

I dropped a couple of hints in my previous post.

The Stones were actually my first thought but I don't consider them to be anything near a Blues band. I know Mick has said many times he was influenced by Blues artists but none of his popular music sounds Blues to me.

The second band that came to mind were the Beatles but I could not make the university connection. Not much Blues in their music either IMHO.

 

[KeithE4]

The Stones were actually my first thought but I don't consider them to be anything near a Blues band. I know Mick has said many times he was influenced by Blues artists but none of his popular music sounds Blues to me.

With a few exceptions, such as their half-azzed attempt at psychedellia in 1967-68, their music has always been blues or blues-rock based. Especially their 1964 & early '65 stuff, plus Sticky Fingers & Exile on Main Street in the early '70s.

The second band that came to mind were the Beatles but I could not make the university connection. Not much Blues in their music either IMHO.

The Beatles never incorporated blues into their music. Neither did any other Liverpool-originated band that I can think of.

 

[CTListener]

With a few exceptions, such as their half-azzed attempt at psychedellia in 1967-68, their music has always been blues or blues-rock based. Especially their 1964 & early '65 stuff, plus Sticky Fingers & Exile on Main Street in the early '70s.



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The other major blues-influenced band of the Invasion was the Animals, but they were from Newcastle, in the Northeast.

 

[KeithE4]

The other major blues-influenced band of the Invasion was the Animals, but they were from Newcastle, in the Northeast.

Don't forget the Yardbirds, who were based in London. They weren't anywhere near as big in the US as the Stones, or even the Animals, but they did have some American hits, as well as giving us three of the greatest guitarists of all time. And they evolved into Led Zeppelin in 1968.

And then there was John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, whom just about anybody who was anybody in the British blues world played with at one time or another.

 

[landtuna]

With a few exceptions, such as their half-azzed attempt at psychedellia in 1967-68, their music has always been blues or blues-rock based. Especially their 1964 & early '65 stuff, plus Sticky Fingers & Exile on Main Street in the early '70s.

I was enjoying the scenic landscape of South Viet Nam in '64 and '65 and the only music radio we could receive at that time playing English language songs was through AFRTS which did not play "edgy" rock 'n roll. I don't remember ever hearing a Stones record on the little bit of radio we did get. When I got back to the USA in mid-66 they were full-fledged rock 'n roll - or at least their pop releases were. I was never a huge fan though so I heard mostly their charting stuff and never delved into their uncharted releases. Not much, if anything, I ever heard sounded much like the Blues I was used to but then I am not a Blues fan either so most of it sounds like amateur night at the drunk tank to me.

 

[TheBigA]

The Beatles never incorporated blues into their music. Neither did any other Liverpool-originated band that I can think of.

They recorded covers of several R&B classics, including "Money" "Roll Over Beethoven" and the incredibly popular "Twist & Shout." These were all done when they played the Cavern and in Hamburg. But they really considered themselves a skiffle band.

 

[KeithE4]

They recorded covers of several R&B classics, including "Money" "Roll Over Beethoven" and the incredibly popular "Twist & Shout." These were all done when they played the Cavern and in Hamburg. But they really considered themselves a skiffle band.

Yes, but they never played Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, or Robert Johnson songs like the Stones, Yardbirds, and Animals did. About the only songwriter I can think of that all those bands and the Beatles had in common was Chuck Berry.

 

[TheBigA]

Yes, but they never played Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, or Robert Johnson songs like the Stones, Yardbirds, and Animals did. About the only songwriter I can think of that all those bands and the Beatles had in common was Chuck Berry.

I never said they did. I said they considered themselves a skiffle band. Here's a definition:

Skiffle is a music genre with jazz, blues, folk and roots influences, usually using homemade or improvised instruments. Originating as a term in the United States in the first half of the 20th century, it became popular again in the UK in the 1950s, where it was mainly associated with musician Lonnie Donegan.

 

[KeithE4]

I never said they did. I said they considered themselves a skiffle band. Here's a definition:

Skiffle is a music genre with jazz, blues, folk and roots influences, usually using homemade or improvised instruments. Originating as a term in the United States in the first half of the 20th century, it became popular again in the UK in the 1950s, where it was mainly associated with musician Lonnie Donegan.

I know what skiffle was, and we all know that the Quarrymen were a skiffle band, as were many, if not most British high school bands in the mid/late 1950s. But by the time the Quarrymen evolved into the Beatles in 1960, skiffle was pretty much dead, and they were playing more mainstream rock & roll covers. A listen to their Star Club (Hamburg) recordings from 1962, or even their earlier recordings when they backed Tony Sheridan, will bear that out. As you said, they played what were sometimes called R&B classics, but it was really just straight-up rock & roll.