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Is the Sound trying to commit PPM suicide?

C

ChannelFlipper

Tomorrow, it is not just "Triple-Play Thursday" but Triple Play Thursday" with all LIVE cuts! Whooo-hoo.

I'm sure there have to be dozens of folks around town who will get the bong fired up and wait for the "Frampton Comes Alive" set (also known as the "DJ's Lunch Hour") played on stunning high-fidelity vinyl (gotta take a toke everytime you hear a snap, crackle, or pop!)

But for most everyone else, anything more than one well-known live cut and it is mega tune-out time.

For a station that is supposedly on the block, you would think they would have an interest in actually INCREASING their TSL.
 
ChannelFlipper said:
For a station that is supposedly on the block, you would think they would have an interest in actually INCREASING their TSL.
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Bonneville, when announcing the sale of the eastern part of the radio division said they were not selling SEA, PHX, LAX or SLC.

Another consideration if they were selling or entertaining offers is the very vague probability that the format would be of any interest to a buyer, so ratings metrics would not be a factor.
 
David,

I completely agree with you regarding the viability of the existing format to a prospective buyer and posted as much last week (sorry no link this time, it is late and I gotta go to bed.But it is only a handful of threads down referencing the Sound in it's title)

I don't believe the station is not up for sale. The timeframe may be a bit more long-term as they try to wait for a more favorable market to unload these higher profile stations, but I have a hard time believing they can get very much synergy out of the remaining basket of stations you referenced.

Perhaps that is why in the meantime it is ok to let the inmates run the asylum
 
ChannelFlipper said:
I have a hard time believing they can get very much synergy out of the remaining basket of stations you referenced.

Perhaps that is why in the meantime it is ok to let the inmates run the asylum
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Ahh, interesting statement. Does that mean an owner cannot compete with just a handful of stations? This seems to be the prevailing view, one that put's large amounts of stations under one company's thumb. Isn't this what everyone on this site complains about? I don't see why a company has to own multiple properties to make any money. Just seems odd to me.
 
Sounds like what you're saying is that if the format has no intellectual value, all this would be is an acquisition of the license and physical assets. Which is likely to be only a fraction of the $130m they paid for the station. Perhaps that is the reason the station is "not for sale." It's just not for sale at what companies are willing to offer. Being a standalone signal doesn't help Bonneville's case much, either.
 
Shoot From Hip said:
Sounds like what you're saying is that if the format has no intellectual value, all this would be is an acquisition of the license and physical assets. Which is likely to be only a fraction of the $130m they paid for the station. Perhaps that is the reason the station is "not for sale." It's just not for sale at what companies are willing to offer. Being a standalone signal doesn't help Bonneville's case much, either.
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When Bonneville bought the facility, they got it for stick value; there was no cash flow on the Radio One operation, as confirmed by Alfred Liggins' statements in investor calls. The issue today is whether the second lowest powered Mt Wilson B is still worth $130 million... perhaps it is worth more to some, less to others.

The $130 paid by Bonneville is certainly adjusted for the current market situation... its just about half of what SBS paid for KFSG, which is a B but it's down closer to the floor of the basin on Verdugo, now.
 
With the eventual rolling out of Internet Radio access in cars on a large scale....(Pandora, etc, etc).....Is expensive terrestrial radio a buy at this point?

Unless of course, you could get the stick for a bargain-basement price?
 
airpab said:
With the eventual rolling out of Internet Radio access in cars on a large scale....(Pandora, etc, etc).....Is expensive terrestrial radio a buy at this point?
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Did the large scale roll out of satellite radio kill terrestrial? What we have now are lots of cars with satellite capability, listening to terrestrial radio. I expect when internet access goes wide, you'll see basically the same thing. People will use their internet access in cars to do lots of things. But they'll still listen to KIIS-FM.

As for The Sound, good for them. It's fun to take chances with features from time to time. It builds those P1s.
 
Big difference TheBigA-

You have to pay for Satellite Radio!

Internet radio, in my estimate, may be the death of terrestrial radio as we know it.

Think of the wide scale variety and access listeners will have, without having to pay monthly fees!

Stations could be run from a few computers, meaning little or no real overhead. No sending expensive satellites in to orbit, no maintaining transmitters, etc, etc!

Untapped air-talent could come out of nowhere and be showcased on a wide scale!

The possibilities are limitless!
 
airpab said:
You have to pay for Satellite Radio!
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I don't know about you, but I pay for my internet connection. A lot more than $12.95 a month. And from what I've read, there will be increases in costs as the demands on the pipe increase.

And the music industry, in their infinite stupidity, have made it difficult for internet radio producers to benefit as their audiences increase. I know a lot of people who run internet radio stations and their biggest expense, by far, is music royalties. As long as that exists, they will be passed on to consumers in some way.

People are cheap. Free radio is better than subscription radio. And Pandora is subscription radio. If you give them your credit card number, you're paying for radio.
 
Many people already have phones that provide a WiFi hotspot, which they're already paying for!

I'm sure their will be other delivery systems that will come in to play too!
 
airpab said:
Many people already have phones that provide a WiFi hotspot, which they're already paying for!

I'm sure their will be other delivery systems that will come in to play too!
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If they pay for it, then it's not free.
 
Just like with artists making music and getting internet exposure, there will be much more bad crap to sort through to get to the good stuff. how many streams, or web personalities do you think are compelling enough to garner a profitable audience?
 
I am intrigued with the way The Sound tries to stay just a little bit different, despite having to abandon its original AAA format for Classic Rock. It sounds a lot less "corporate" than KLOS, which IMO is a more typical Classic Rock station.
 
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