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Yikr
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NO. Some of us are waiting for our old sign in names and passwords to work again.I would...but that would be as silly as trying to say I'm not on the air when I'm not on the air. ;Dradio2100 said:
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OldiesCat1
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I'm here, cats & kittens
OK, I'll bite. Why?
Why? Oldies cat is here because he loves talking about the "Success" of Jack FM silly!Jack Garrett said:
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OldiesCat1
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Jack?
Not entirely correct. If you've ever REALLY read my posts, it's not Jack I'm so "in love" with, but the Variety Hits format in general. The Jack stations, in my view, are not really the best examples of what this format could be.I have more respect for the Arch in St. Louis, The Peak in Phoenix, Louie in Louisville because they're not (as some would describe as) 'smarmy' as Jack's approach and what I've heard of these stations and what I see on their playlists tells me their music is focused a lot better. In a time of "me" in the us, I'd have thought the Jack's would have at least created the perception that they're on for the listeners- the "we play what we want" I think works with SOME of the potential audience, but that sign-on tactic to get attention will wear thin if they listeners don't believe the station is evolving for THEM. I'd have thought a year in, they'd start moving in that direction. For whatever reason, they have not- many are still doing well (ratings & revenue) and some haven't clicked yet.The Jack music approach is too wide and, as I've also said, while I understand why the Jack stations have not added jocks I do believe a personality component will be necessary for the VH format's long-term success and the three stations I listed above may be the only ones who've taken that next step. I also don't believe we just throw the typical morning show and DJ approach on the VH stations and do business as usual with personalities- to me, that would detract from the uniqueness of the format.
Not entirely correct. If you've ever REALLY read my posts, it's not Jack I'm so "in love" with, but the Variety Hits format in general. The Jack stations, in my view, are not really the best examples of what this format could be.I have more respect for the Arch in St. Louis, The Peak in Phoenix, Louie in Louisville because they're not (as some would describe as) 'smarmy' as Jack's approach and what I've heard of these stations and what I see on their playlists tells me their music is focused a lot better. In a time of "me" in the us, I'd have thought the Jack's would have at least created the perception that they're on for the listeners- the "we play what we want" I think works with SOME of the potential audience, but that sign-on tactic to get attention will wear thin if they listeners don't believe the station is evolving for THEM. I'd have thought a year in, they'd start moving in that direction. For whatever reason, they have not- many are still doing well (ratings & revenue) and some haven't clicked yet.The Jack music approach is too wide and, as I've also said, while I understand why the Jack stations have not added jocks I do believe a personality component will be necessary for the VH format's long-term success and the three stations I listed above may be the only ones who've taken that next step. I also don't believe we just throw the typical morning show and DJ approach on the VH stations and do business as usual with personalities- to me, that would detract from the uniqueness of the format.
The original concept was that "we" included the listener. I had a discussion today that assured me that (at least a few of) the major market PDs now understand that JACK's attitude is "f*ck them" (the suits) and not "f*ck you" (the listeners). As for content and personalites on JACK...keep listening.CJ
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OldiesCat1
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hey, if it's working. I'm all for anything but the same ol' same ol' when it comes to radio station presentation and imaging.
hey, if it's working. I'm all for anything but the same ol' same ol' when it comes to radio station presentation and imaging.
JACK could have hired one of those constipated voice guys and produced a bunch of sweepers with Family Guy or Simpsons drops, but it seems that's been done before.
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radio2100
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Speaking of Indy's Jack, how about those ratings?And will Cumulus make any changes???
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OldiesCat1
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Indy?
they're top 5 25-54.They should enjoy it while they can, not an anti-Jack statement but a Cumulus statement, if ya know what I mean.
they're top 5 25-54.They should enjoy it while they can, not an anti-Jack statement but a Cumulus statement, if ya know what I mean.
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radio2100
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Re: Indy?
Not from the latest numbers I saw. More like #8.OldiesCat1 said:
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OldiesCat1
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Jack-Indy
nobody cares about 12+ ratings.
nobody cares about 12+ ratings.
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radio2100
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Re: Jack-Indy
I'm not talking about the 12+ numbers. 25-54!Besides they are #13 12+.OldiesCat1 said:
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OldiesCat1
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Jack-Indy
Correcting myself- the Arbitron info I'm looking at is 6th 25-54 (vs. #5 in the previous book, which I had at the time).(and, repeat, NOBODY sells or makes strategic decisions on 12+ numbers, so it doesn't matter of they're 3rd or 13th, it's USELESS quoting them).
Correcting myself- the Arbitron info I'm looking at is 6th 25-54 (vs. #5 in the previous book, which I had at the time).(and, repeat, NOBODY sells or makes strategic decisions on 12+ numbers, so it doesn't matter of they're 3rd or 13th, it's USELESS quoting them).
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radio2100
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You're the one who brought up the 12+ numbers. I was stating the 25-54 in my original post. AND YES! we know that 12+ doesn't mean anything. Stop already.
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OldiesCat1
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Jack
"Besides they are #13 12+."(your words-not mine)
"Besides they are #13 12+."(your words-not mine)
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radio2100
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UH! Read earlier posts. And then your reply about 12+. Which is the first mention of 12+. "nobody cares about 12+ ratings." (Your words - not mine)This is a crazy argument. Get over it.
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OldiesCat1
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whatever
there's nothing to "get over".
there's nothing to "get over".
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