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Is This Discrimination, or Is This Clear Channel Backpedaling?

People need to realize that blogs and any other internet postings are public information as soon as you hit that enter key. Companies are regularly starting to check the my space and facebook pages of their employees. There was a big stink over this on the east coast a month or so ago and it was born out that yes what you say in a public forum can come back to bite you. Think twice before you hit that enter key, the First Amendment isn't going to cover your butt. On the internet there is no reasonable expectation of privacy.
 
LEts seeee...Jagger was at CC-Dallas for a few years and did well...CC-Dallas has several gay employees...CC-Dallas has the Pride Radio HD channel....And they're gonna can this guy because he's gay?
 
MarkLaRoi said:
Can't write vulgar stuff like that and expect to work for a big corporation.
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...are you putting us on? Chump Channel, home of Flush Limppaw and (until a few months ago) The Savage Weiner, can't handle Jack E. Jett? Get real!...
 
The only stupid decision by CC regarding this was the fact that this show would ever be broadcast on KFXR. KFXR was a classic country station before becoming a CNN simulcast station. The audience is men 35-64. And how many of KFXR's listeners would actually stay tuned in for this program? My guess is even less than the station is drawing now. This was a VERY stupid sales decision. Why was sales stupid? KFXR has no P.D. to speak of and everything on that station is more sales driven than your average run of the mill station. Let me amend my previous statement...The second stupid decision was that CC would put the show on KFXR. The first was flipping from Classic Country to a CNN simulcast. Cume went from around 40,000 to 12,000 in less than a year.
 
What?? A Clear Channel owned station is purely SALES driven?? Say it ain't so!
 
ButtnPushr said:
Jack E. Jett was fired from Clear Channel before he even got on the air on 1190 AM. The reason? For something he was quoted for saying in a Blog. Really? Blog quotes can get you canned nowadays?
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As has been mentioned, blogs can, and frequently do, get people canned. Many more don't even get interviewed and never know it was because of something they tweeted or blogged. Blogs have even gotten people convicted of crimes prison sentences when legal guidelines only recommended probation. You have to be careful what you say on the internet.

Yes, it does seem a contradictory that Clear Channel keeps some of the people on its payroll that it does while firing someone for a blog post, but all people are treated the same way, differently. Those who have a proven record of bringing the company money will always be able to get away with more, and it's not just a Clear Channel thing. In the 90's, Infinity was known for putting up with fine after fine for comments made by Howard Stern while firing The Greaseman for something far less egregious. The difference was that Howard was making money. You could say the same for Infinity after it was merged into CBS when it continued to stand behind Howard Stern not quite 10 years ago while letting Opie and Anthony go. Opie and Anthony did fine in Boston, New York and Philly, but tanked most everywhere else. Punishing them for do something outrageous, which is what they were hired to do, was simply a way for CBS to get rid of a show that didn't meet its expectations.
 
ButtnPushr said:
What?? A Clear Channel owned station is purely SALES driven?? Say it ain't so!
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...not in this case -- the time for the show was sold by Chump Channel before the scheduling was announced...
 
Kent said:
ButtnPushr said:
Jack E. Jett was fired from Clear Channel before he even got on the air on 1190 AM. The reason? For something he was quoted for saying in a Blog. Really? Blog quotes can get you canned nowadays?
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As has been mentioned, blogs can, and frequently do, get people canned. Many more don't even get interviewed and never know it was because of something they tweeted or blogged. Blogs have even gotten people convicted of crimes prison sentences when legal guidelines only recommended probation. You have to be careful what you say on the internet.

Yes, it does seem a contradictory that Clear Channel keeps some of the people on its payroll that it does while firing someone for a blog post, but all people are treated the same way, differently. Those who have a proven record of bringing the company money will always be able to get away with more, and it's not just a Clear Channel thing. In the 90's, Infinity was known for putting up with fine after fine for comments made by Howard Stern while firing The Greaseman for something far less egregious. The difference was that Howard was making money. You could say the same for Infinity after it was merged into CBS when it continued to stand behind Howard Stern not quite 10 years ago while letting Opie and Anthony go. Opie and Anthony did fine in Boston, New York and Philly, but tanked most everywhere else. Punishing them for do something outrageous, which is what they were hired to do, was simply a way for CBS to get rid of a show that didn't meet its expectations.
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Well put, Kent. But to get fired before you even get on the air doesn't really apply here. His show never had a chance to succeed, or fail for that matter. If you read the article, JD made it sound like he had no idea who Jack E. Jett was, or what his show was about. In a way, he's admitting he's not overseeing whatever a manager in his position is supposed to. Yet, he still fired the guy. It makes him and Clear Channel look bad. His actions show him not knowing anything about the guy and basically saying "I didn't hire him, but I can fire him."
 
ButtnPushr said:
Jack E. Jett was fired from Clear Channel before he even got on the air on 1190 AM. The reason? For something he was quoted for saying in a Blog. Really? Blog quotes can get you canned nowadays? The story is posted below. Is this an enormous overreaction from J.D.?

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2010/01/before_he_even_started_clear_c.php
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I did listen to JEJ on 1360 some weekends and found the show usually fairly entertaining (I usually listen to KERA but they swapped sat/sun programs and messed it all up). JEJ's show was MOSTLY innocuous, but it was occasionally too vulgar, not necessarily for me, but that extreme left viewpoint that says you can say anything you want and f'em is mean spirited and inconsiderate of those who'd rather not here about other peoples sex lives and sexual interests. I'd say he would be fine on 1190 if he could just withhold the explicit descriptions of his sexual interests. I used to listen to a show called "Contact" with David Harding on WFBQ back in the 70s. It was on a midnight and was heavily sex, porn, leftwing focused. It was very entertaining, but the timeslot was I think more appropriate than 2 in the afternoon.
 
ButtnPushr said:
Well put, Kent. But to get fired before you even get on the air doesn't really apply here. His show never had a chance to succeed, or fail for that matter. If you read the article, JD made it sound like he had no idea who Jack E. Jett was, or what his show was about. In a way, he's admitting he's not overseeing whatever a manager in his position is supposed to. Yet, he still fired the guy. It makes him and Clear Channel look bad. His actions show him not knowing anything about the guy and basically saying "I didn't hire him, but I can fire him."
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Realistically, no one looks good in this situation. You're absolutely right that local management and Clear Channel look bad, at the very least, for not knowing what they were getting. Jett doesn't look good either because he made an incredibly dumb mistake by not being careful about what he put on his blog. I don't know about you but I've often scratched my head wondering who runs various companies and how they make any money. I've also met plenty of rank-and-file employees and wondered if they've ever thought about how their actions reflect on their entire company.
 
Clear Channel didn't really take a reputation hit from their treatment of this guy.

They were grasping at straws (in programming and high finance) long before they pondered putting him on air.
 
Clear Channel stations around here have great hosts and hostesses.
 
Kent said:
ButtnPushr said:
Well put, Kent. But to get fired before you even get on the air doesn't really apply here. His show never had a chance to succeed, or fail for that matter. If you read the article, JD made it sound like he had no idea who Jack E. Jett was, or what his show was about. In a way, he's admitting he's not overseeing whatever a manager in his position is supposed to. Yet, he still fired the guy. It makes him and Clear Channel look bad. His actions show him not knowing anything about the guy and basically saying "I didn't hire him, but I can fire him."
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Realistically, no one looks good in this situation. You're absolutely right that local management and Clear Channel look bad, at the very least, for not knowing what they were getting. Jett doesn't look good either because he made an incredibly dumb mistake by not being careful about what he put on his blog. I don't know about you but I've often scratched my head wondering who runs various companies and how they make any money. I've also met plenty of rank-and-file employees and wondered if they've ever thought about how their actions reflect on their entire company.
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JEJ has made similar statements ON AIR, so I don't see what the big deal about the blog comment was considering the actual content of his show (on occasion)
 
Agreed.. So getting back to the original question: Do you think this is discrimination like Jack claims?
 
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