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Is WINF operating legally?

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CatFM

WINF has been carrying WCDR programming most of the time for at least a couple of years. According to the LPFM rules, Sec. 73.879 Signal retransmission:

An LPFM licensee may not retransmit, either terrestrially or via satellite, the signal of a full-power radio broadcast station.

WINF is an LPFM licensee. WCDR is a full-power broadcast station.
 
WINF is broadcasting the "CDR Network", not WCDR-FM 90.3, two different things... WINF-LP pulls CDR Radio Network off a KU Satellite Feed... There is no mention of WCDR on air, thus different.. in fact, if you want to get techincal, the KU Feed is uplinked from the studios at the university thus at no time techincally 90.3's signal is ever being aired on it.

So I would have to say that WINF is running legal from my understanding.

There are many LPFM's across the USA running satellite programming, is it morally right for an LPFM not to do more local content thats up for debate by those that choose, but legally I am sure its legal by FCC rules.
 
Thanks for the explanation. I would agree that they are operating legally because of the network loophole. The FCC wanted to prohibit LPFM stations from being used as translators, but they obviously failed to do so. The idea was to have LPFM stations operate as local community stations, which WINF did in the beginning when it was locally programmed, but by using the network loophole, it has now been reduced to being just another translator for an out of market signal. That's sad.
 
ya, that IS sad....someone needs to do something about it...and the stupid translators....they are useless wastes of airspace. Non com's should stay in the non com....and vice versa. WINF has a wattage problem too. We've done readings.
 
AugC said:
ya, that IS sad....someone needs to do something about it...and the stupid translators....they are useless wastes of airspace. Non com's should stay in the non com....and vice versa. WINF has a wattage problem too. We've done readings.
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That station does seem to go out pretty far for, what is it, 8 watts?
 
When I was GM and Engineering 88.7 (co-located with WOSU, Channel 6 and CDR's 88.1 Translator), WCDR's 88.1 translator was only 10 watts near the top of the Channel 6 tower and the unit was within two feet of my transmitters.. They were dead on legal, but with the height of the element, they got out in autos up to 25 to 30 miles north and 20 to 25 miles east-west and 15 to 20 south.. Almost as good as we at WUFM did in the original 700 directional pattern..(now 5kw)....
 
Their antenna is a 4-bay side mounted on the tower at the old WDLR studio. It appears to be around 100 feet or so above the ground. The FCC contour maps notwithstanding, they have a rock solid signal over in the Marysville area on an "average" car radio. I have even received them in spots down around Deer Creek State park near Mt Sterling. There are some class A's around here that don't do a whole lot better than that. I've been in the RF business for a long time and thats the best playing 59 Watts I've ever heard AM, FM, or VHF commercial.
 
Ya, there's at least a nice 200-300 brick laying somewhere close!
 
WINF-101.9 is coming in clear for me in my honda in Dublin and all the way south to about I-70/I-270 interchange. Those 59 watts must be coming out of a 1,000ft antenna or something. It seems to carry top far, for just 59 watts.
 
bowserb said:
WINF-101.9 is coming in clear for me in my honda in Dublin and all the way south to about I-70/I-270 interchange. Those 59 watts must be coming out of a 1,000ft antenna or something. It seems to carry top far, for just 59 watts.
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No doubt. I've been west of London on I-70 and they are still pretty solid. That height helps. If you contrast their signal with WOBN (101.5 The Rock Westerville) which is 28 watts (antenna 40 feet in the air) which barely makes it past 315 on the north side, WINF's extremely large coverage area makes you wonder why they go so far. Some have picked it up well past Bellefountaine.
This isn't the first time this has been discussed...

Trick_Magnet
 
phatdaddy said:
Their antenna is a 4-bay side mounted on the tower at the old WDLR studio. It appears to be around 100 feet or so above the ground. The FCC contour maps notwithstanding, they have a rock solid signal over in the Marysville area on an "average" car radio. I have even received them in spots down around Deer Creek State park near Mt Sterling. There are some class A's around here that don't do a whole lot better than that. I've been in the RF business for a long time and thats the best playing 59 Watts I've ever heard AM, FM, or VHF commercial.
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A 4 bay for a 59 watt signal? Dag nab.
 
Columbus is pretty flat in terrain, with the exception of the river banks that are in low lying terrain...
 
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