Even if TDA can manage to get back up to a 1.7 12+ with wretched acts like Savage (embodiment of hate) and Mancow (hate plus IQ of 10, tops), could their revenue-minus-expenses really exceed what automated Ted-FM was generating with that same 1.7? I would hope the answer is "no," but maybe it isn't. Would be interested in any opinions. BTW, as I recall Bob & Tom were *not* outperforming the rest of the day. (Sorry to keep the zombie revival of the VKO thread going, but the question follows from the previous posts.)
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Is WVKO AM in trouble??
- Thread starter redsfan1966
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As the creator of this thread, I am happy to see it come back to life. "IT'S ALIVE!!!" All joking aside, as I have stated before, I truly believe Progressive Talk is dead in C-Bus. However, if I am not mistaken, 1230 did not even show up in the last Arbitron book and TDA is dead flippin' last......if there ever was a last ditch chance to make the "libtalk" work here, this may be it....because 1460 ain't giving up the Fan simulcast. I would think airing Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz on 103.9 and surrounding them with shows like Dan Patrick and Dennis Miller might work....
redsfan1966 said:
Mixing "sports" with "political talk" doesn't work, unless you have a major league franchise (or a notable college franchise), or both.
And yes...shock of all shocks to someone of liberal bent, Dennis Miller is a raging conservative.
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SeanMGilbow
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One Who Knows said:
Thank you, Captain Obvious. ;D
However, may I suggest we move the discussion on WTDA to a separate thread?
Sean:
It's "obviously" not "obvious" to Redsfan which is why I made the post...
It's "obviously" not "obvious" to Redsfan which is why I made the post...
guess what, all knowing "One"---I do know Dennis is a conservative---any chance of a station offering differing views from its hosts once in awhile??
redsfan1966 said:
It's been tried before...and failed.
It was even tried in Columbus on 1230...about mid to late 90's.
Imus in the Morning - G. Gordon Liddy Middays, John and Ken (followed by Alan Colmes, followed by Farber and Colmes), with Tom Leykis at night.
Imus pulled (in demo) about a 6 share. You could hear radios turning off all over town at 3 pm. The station would lose about half it's audience. The station got great praise from OSU professors for it's attempts at "fairness". Just no listeners to the shows praised for "fairness".
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del_griffith
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I thought John & Ken replaced Farber/Colmes.
My fuzzy memory has after Limbaugh left, Imus, Liddy til 2 and John and Ken afternoons and Bruce Williams evenings.
My fuzzy memory has after Limbaugh left, Imus, Liddy til 2 and John and Ken afternoons and Bruce Williams evenings.
Hey, whatever happened to the 103.1 talk? Glad that didn't go through for Gary and gang, what an awful signal, you can't get them anywhere and I think the format deserves better. God forbid we have anything but conversatives on the air!del_griffith said:
cadkins6739 said:
I was hoping this thread would be able to R.I.P.
Gary Richards was hoping to place his Progressive Talk and sports programing on WVKO-FM 103.1 after he lost WVKO-AM 1580. He and his attorney stated
on the air that that they were in negotiations to purchase 103.1 and that the asking price "wasn't to intimidating". It looks like that's not going to happen.
Speaking of not letting this topic R.I.P, someone called into the Bob Connors Open Phones last Saturday touting Gary Richards and his now defunct Progressive
Talk format on WVKO-AM radio. He said that the reason Gary went off the air is because he lost his "transmitter license ???" to the Catholic group that wanted
to silence his programing. He want on to say that Gary would still be programing 1580 if it wasn't for the Catholic group taking the station away from him/
Bob Connors told the caller that his high powered broadcast consultants tell him that the Progressive Talk format is only successful in "VERY FEW MAJOR RADIO MARKETS". I take it that B.C. is saying the format is destined for failure in Columbus.
Click here: http://www.610wtvn.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=bconyourpc.xml to hear this call. Click on Saturday, May 30th, the Fourth hour. This is the VERY LAST call of the Fourth hour, so it should be easy to spot/find if you are interested.
Go back in this very thread, back in time, back a few hundred messages, and I'm pretty sure you'll see former 1580 LMA operator Gary Richards himself ("GR") pooh-pooh the 103.1 rumors quite vehemently. I'm pretty suire he never publicly stated that he was "hoping" to buy 103.1 - in fact, he was more than willing to continue the 1580 LMA as is, until someone came in (St. Gabriel) LMAing to actually buy the signal.
Why would he first rent, not to buy, 1580, and decide to buy 103.1 when the 1580 LMA was overcome by the new offer? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I've never seen any evidence that was more than just message board chatter, or had any foundation outside of the head of one of our regular posters here during the last days of liberal talk on 1580.
Now, the question...
"Is WVKO AM in trouble??"
Why would he first rent, not to buy, 1580, and decide to buy 103.1 when the 1580 LMA was overcome by the new offer? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I've never seen any evidence that was more than just message board chatter, or had any foundation outside of the head of one of our regular posters here during the last days of liberal talk on 1580.
Now, the question...
"Is WVKO AM in trouble??"
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del_griffith
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Well probably the bigger question is:
Is WVKO AM in any less trouble now since it's primarily conservative Catholic talk vs when it was secular progressive talk.
But I guess it really boils down to is WVKO AM in trouble?
Is WVKO AM in any less trouble now since it's primarily conservative Catholic talk vs when it was secular progressive talk.
But I guess it really boils down to is WVKO AM in trouble?
OhioMediaWatch said:Go back in this very thread, back in time, back a few hundred messages, and I'm pretty sure you'll see former 1580 LMA operator Gary Richards himself ("GR") pooh-pooh the 103.1 rumors quite vehemently. I'm pretty suire he never publicly stated that he was "hoping" to buy 103.1 - in fact, he was more than willing to continue the 1580 LMA as is, until someone came in (St. Gabriel) LMAing to actually buy the signal.
Why would he first rent, not to buy, 1580, and decide to buy 103.1 when the 1580 LMA was overcome by the new offer? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I've never seen any evidence that was more than just message board chatter, or had any foundation outside of the head of one of our regular posters here during the last days of liberal talk on 1580.
Now, the question...
"Is WVKO AM in trouble??"
On Saturday, December 20, 2008, three days before Gary Richards lost his WVKO-AM LMA with Bernard Ohio, Gary Richards was a guest of the Blue State Dinner show. Also, one of the other guests in the studio that day was Mr. Richard's attorney. Now, as you stated on your site and/or here, Bernard Ohio
is NOT in the radio business by choice. They all looking to see all sell their Ohio radio properties. WVKO-FM 103.1 has been up for sale as long or longer then
WVKO-AM. So, when WVKO-AM was taken away from him, one of his options was to buy WVKO-FM if he could find a rich investor(s). I think the confusion is
that originally another poster on here said that Ed. Schultz, aka Big Eddy was looking to buy a station in Columbus and program it with a Progressive Talk format. YES, MR RICHARDS DID QUITE vehemently squash that rumor about Big Eddy buying a station here in Columbus.
Mr. Richards said on the air they could buy that station if they had the money and that is that is why they were looking for an investor(s) with lots of money .
This radio interview is on the Ohio Majority Radio website under 'podcasts'. The segment with Mr. Richards talking about buying WVKO-FM is missing because
this is an off air recording and the reception was poor at best. I DID record this show so I do have a copy of this complete show.
del_griffith said:
About a week or so ago, St. Gabriel Catholic radio broke into their regular programing to announce they were holding one last fundraiser, from July 8-10 or so to
secure the funding they need to buy the station from Bernard Ohio. They seem to be pretty opportunistic they they will raise the funds on their last fund drive.
They say if they don't have the enough sustaining members buy the station then, the financial institutions won't lend them the money to buy the station and then they may lose WVKO-AM all together on July 16. I will be surprised if they have the funding because they have been trying to buy a Columbus signal for
almost three years now. WHAT DIFFERENCE WILL A FEW WEEKS MAKE in this present economy?
Question, Will Cowtown Communtations want WVKO-AM back if the stations is taken away from St Gabriel Catholic radio on July 16 because they didn't have the money to purchase the station? I don't think Cowtown Communtations will want VKO-AM back. What will WVKO-AM be doing on July 16th? Comments?
gabigley1 said:
It was Cowtown Communications. Don't know what Communtations are...
The answer is likely that after July 16th Bernard Ohio will throw on something to keep the license active until they can find another party interested in leasing or buying the station. Cheap filler programming...a tape loop...colon flush infomercials, who knows what they will run.
The answer is likely that after July 16th Bernard Ohio will throw on something to keep the license active until they can find another party interested in leasing or buying the station. Cheap filler programming...a tape loop...colon flush infomercials, who knows what they will run.
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One listen to 1160 in Cincy would confirm what they'll be doing.
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One listen to 1160 in Cincy would confirm what they'll be doing.
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SeanMGilbow
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gr8oldies said:
One listen to 1160 in Cincy would confirm what they'll be doing.
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Uh, no. Anyone listen to 103.9 lately?
Anyone?
gabigley1 said:
My biggest question is if they cant pay to keep WVKO-AM on air with their LMA'ed to buy format... what about the CP's they have been granted for various non com FM's in ohio... how will they fund those???
Also, appears St Gabriel has moved their offices/studios... They where at a Bethel Rd location but now their website shows Winterset Drive as their address.
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