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Isn't it time to dump Java?

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OKCRadioGuy

I updated Java and once again I've got a problem trying to get into Tieline Bridge-IT units. Tieline... Where's the permanent fix for this? Java has been a security issue and a headache. Simply put, it's garbage and needs to be eliminated from the product line. For those of us that use your product for STL links and other critical things, fighting with Java get something to work is simply unacceptable. Please devote some R&D time to a cure. Thank you.
 
Thanks. The fix for now seems to be return back to an older version of Java. I was able to restore my ability to use the system by doing that. The other option was to go and upgrade the firmware on both ends. Since my units are used as STL units to remote stations miles and miles away from each other, I opted to just downgrade my Java version for now. Support and their sales team are aware of the issue and very helpful :) . Thanks John, and MaryAnne, and the support team!
 
Even as a WebDev, I deleted Java off my system. Only a few tools use it, & they are so slow I'd rather use a real compiled program.
 
It still stymies me why some manufacturers provide Java-based applets for controlling / accessing their equipment considering the insecurity of the platform. Then again, I've seen a couple based on Adobe Flash which I consider yet another nightmare.

I understand the ability to make it multi-platform but there has to be a better way.
 
If JAVA is "broken" on a PC or the updater fails (like it does frequently) I remove it.
Haven't had one complaint and that simplifies the monthly patching!
 
Other than the few computers I use that I need Java installed on for the Tieline units and a few other very infrequent things, we don't have it on other machines around here. Most people do not miss it at all.
 
Comrex needs Flash. Hoping everytime there's an update it doesn't break it.
Went through quite a period where NOAA Wx radar was broken on IE.

Adobe Flash is a mess to update. Almost always fails for me anyway.
That's 80+ computers needing personal patch attention a month.
Found a 95% successful method to update Flash. Un-install it then go to
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
And let IE &/or Firefox install the "missing plugin" from there.
 
Java and Flash are both trash.. the biggest hurdle for software creation teams is having an interface that will work on multiple platforms (Windows, Mac, etc..) ...
 
In a previous job, I once had to use a piece of hardware that could only be configured through a Word document... Which contained some script that communicated via an RS232 interface. In the end I just took the script code and wrote my own program to configure the thing...

I still don't understand that there are people who claim that Java is equal in speed - or even faster - than C++. (Yes, some people actually claim this.) If you search online, you can even find optimized FFT's etc. written in Java.... ???
 
My recollection was that when I looked at the Java code it was nothing more than interpreted C++. Kind of like upscale Basic :)
 
Odd thing here is that I remember visiting and hanging out with the Google Radio crew in Dallas. I was playing with some new features and the 'selling' point was 'We wrote these things in Java'.

I hope Wide Orbit removed those parts.
 
One thing that's happened lately is the intaller seems to remove the older versions of the same series.
Version 7 update will remove older Version 7 installs.
Spent a lot of time (better spent on other things) removing sometimes 15 versions of Java on a PC.
 
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