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It was 20 years ago today....

...that KLAZ switched callsigns to KZOU and Zoo 98 was born. IT HAS been a long and winding road. Hope you guys over there today are having as much fun as we did then...My, how it's changed.


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> ...that KLAZ switched callsigns to KZOU and Zoo 98 was born.
> IT HAS been a long and winding road. Hope you guys over
> there today are having as much fun as we did then...My, how
> it's changed.
>
Can you tell us your fav memory? A friend of mine goes on and on about Zoo..give it up for the memories today..
 
Yeah, I was at the ZOU with 'Saur during that period. It could be said that most of our memories wouldn't be suitable for polite company. Come to think of it, the statute of limitations may not have run out on some of them.

Hey Radiosaur! Wanna go Zoo-Cruisin?



> > ...that KLAZ switched callsigns to KZOU and Zoo 98 was
> born.
> > IT HAS been a long and winding road. Hope you guys over
> > there today are having as much fun as we did then...My,
> how
> > it's changed.
> >
> Can you tell us your fav memory? A friend of mine goes on
> and on about Zoo..give it up for the memories today..
>
 
> > Can you tell us your fav memory? A friend of mine goes on
> > and on about Zoo..give it up for the memories today..
> >

Wow, I wouldn’t know where to start, and as Bag says some of the stories probably wouldn’t make it past the moderators. For radio folks, the behind-the-scenes story of Zoo would probably be fascinating reading. In short, like most overnight success stories in radio, it was the right combination of folks at the right time. Jerry Lousteau had absolutely no people skills, but he was great at keeping his eye on the programming ball and keeping the station image consistent. Fortunately, the people around him like Mr. Bag, who was production director at the time and me, the humble Chief Engineer (I had been brought in from the Memphis Viacom station. Talk about culture shock) had enough professionalism and understanding of the station and do our part. Jerry had a way off pissing people off in about 30 seconds. He knew it…and didn’t care.

Plus, in retrospect I think we had a corporate staff at the time who knew less about things than the local Little Rock staff…It was a constant fight with the head office to do what we knew needed doing. But the cool thing about it was I think everyone just blew off corporate and did what it took to make the station a winner. Some of the folks involved in KZOU had incredible backgrounds in radio. You could find callsigns like WLS, WMMR in Philly, and more on their resumes.

It was an interesting group of personalities. As he hinted, Mr. Bag and I shared the same philosophy about after-work entertainment, and there was lots of stuff to do in LR in the mid-80’s. There are still some stories concerning the club at the NLR Holiday Inn that I’m sure we would all prefer not get out. There were certainly some characters on the air staff.

Technically, Bag and I literally did the impossible with nothing. KLAZ had some decent gear, but when I got there it was a huge mess, having been neglected for a long time. It took a lot of horse trading and baling wire to get the production sound that was the trademark of Zoo. At the time, Allied broadcast supply had a guy who would trade out equipment. I took a decade or so of old crap and sent it all to him. That was how we got some of the modern production and processing gear that made Zoo sound the way it did. Some of the on-air processing techniques were my own invention, and over the spring of 1986 we developed a sound between production and on-air that blew everyone away. For those of you who remember the Zoo 98 production sound, Bag did it all on only 4 tracks of analog and one first generation Harmonizer.

The source of much entertainment was the cast of characters across the hall at KOKY. At the time, Power 92 didn’t exist and KOKY was still pulling a 5 share in an FM dominated market. Those were some strange folks over there. I do remember the time Broadway Joe Booker called up the cross-town jock at KWTD 106.3 and put him on KOKY. He didn’t KNOW he was on the air. Broadway Joe proceeded to tell him that the ratings were out and “I beat you like you stole something”. His reply was, uh, unsuitable for 1980’s radio.

Lots more stories. I'd be happy to try to recall some specifics...I had a good time, and it’s pretty cool to have been involved in something people remember as being part of their lives so many years later.


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Where did Hal Smith retire after landing at Signal? Anyone have any contact info on him?

> > > Can you tell us your fav memory? A friend of mine goes
> on
> > > and on about Zoo..give it up for the memories today..
> > >
>
> Wow, I wouldn’t know where to start, and as Bag says some of
> the stories probably wouldn’t make it past the moderators.
> For radio folks, the behind-the-scenes story of Zoo would
> probably be fascinating reading. In short, like most
> overnight success stories in radio, it was the right
> combination of folks at the right time. Jerry Lousteau had
> absolutely no people skills, but he was great at keeping his
> eye on the programming ball and keeping the station image
> consistent. Fortunately, the people around him like Mr. Bag,
> who was production director at the time and me, the humble
> Chief Engineer (I had been brought in from the Memphis
> Viacom station. Talk about culture shock) had enough
> professionalism and understanding of the station and do our
> part. Jerry had a way off pissing people off in about 30
> seconds. He knew it…and didn’t care.
>
> Plus, in retrospect I think we had a corporate staff at the
> time who knew less about things than the local Little Rock
> staff…It was a constant fight with the head office to do
> what we knew needed doing. But the cool thing about it was I
> think everyone just blew off corporate and did what it took
> to make the station a winner. Some of the folks involved in
> KZOU had incredible backgrounds in radio. You could find
> callsigns like WLS, WMMR in Philly, and more on their
> resumes.
>
> It was an interesting group of personalities. As he hinted,
> Mr. Bag and I shared the same philosophy about after-work
> entertainment, and there was lots of stuff to do in LR in
> the mid-80’s. There are still some stories concerning the
> club at the NLR Holiday Inn that I’m sure we would all
> prefer not get out. There were certainly some characters on
> the air staff.
>
> Technically, Bag and I literally did the impossible with
> nothing. KLAZ had some decent gear, but when I got there it
> was a huge mess, having been neglected for a long time. It
> took a lot of horse trading and baling wire to get the
> production sound that was the trademark of Zoo. At the time,
> Allied broadcast supply had a guy who would trade out
> equipment. I took a decade or so of old crap and sent it all
> to him. That was how we got some of the modern production
> and processing gear that made Zoo sound the way it did. Some
> of the on-air processing techniques were my own invention,
> and over the spring of 1986 we developed a sound between
> production and on-air that blew everyone away. For those of
> you who remember the Zoo 98 production sound, Bag did it all
> on only 4 tracks of analog and one first generation
> Harmonizer.
>
> The source of much entertainment was the cast of characters
> across the hall at KOKY. At the time, Power 92 didn’t exist
> and KOKY was still pulling a 5 share in an FM dominated
> market. Those were some strange folks over there. I do
> remember the time Broadway Joe Booker called up the
> cross-town jock at KWTD 106.3 and put him on KOKY. He didn’t
> KNOW he was on the air. Broadway Joe proceeded to tell him
> that the ratings were out and “I beat you like you stole
> something”. His reply was, uh, unsuitable for 1980’s radio.
>
> Lots more stories. I'd be happy to try to recall some
> specifics...I had a good time, and it’s pretty cool to have
> been involved in something people remember as being part of
> their lives so many years later.
>
 
> Where did Hal Smith retire after landing at Signal? Anyone
> have any contact info on him?

He retired to California wine country around Sacramento. Last e-mail I have on him was on the 440int website.

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> For those of you who remember the Zoo 98 production sound, Bag did it all
> on only 4 tracks of analog and one first generation Harmonizer.

Thank you for the compliments, kind sir, however, I believe you're still being a bit too modest.

When The Mighty 'Saur (otherwise known as He Who Talks To Wires) came to the ZOU, our production facility consisted of an old Auditronics production board (which I believe was steam-powered) and three two track tape machines...an Ampex 440B and a couple of really old Ampex 350's. For effects devices, we had a roll of Scotch tape to wrap around one of the capstans. Our on-air processing chain was a cobbled-together mess the last engineer put together, some of which bore the brand name Heathkit. The on-air studio was even worse.

Through the aforementioned trading, plus a lot of begging, borrowing and almost outright theft, 'Saur put together a facility that may not have been pretty, and it may have needed a well-placed kick from time to time, but for the analog days, it not only had a sound I haven't heard since, but it was amazingly clean. When you consider the poor guy had a budget that forced him to recycle solder, this was nothing short of a miracle.

The comments on Jerry Lousteau (Uglee Jerry) are pretty close. He was a brilliant programmer and top-notch marketing person and promoter, but the part about ticking people off in 30 seconds isn't true. It was more like 5 seconds.

The truth is, a huge part of what made the ZOU great was Jerry's no-compromise attitude. If something wasn't good for the station, it wasn't allowed to exist, and there was no discussion on those points. And he had no problem demanding extraordinary things from his people. That's where Jerry earned his rep as a horse's patootie. But after you got beyond his bluster, he was basically a good guy, and for me, became a good friend.

A couple of "G" rated stories I can tell are: as most people who listened to the ZOU during that time know, Jerry's words were always accompanied by a fair amount of saliva. And when he walked down the long hall in the programming area, he had a small problem with waddling. Bobby Knight (our afternoon jock who did a dead-on impersonation of Jerry) organized a bunch of us to follow Jerry wherever he went, copying his voice and walk, which made us look like a mother duck leading her ducklings, and drove Jerry straight up the wall.

Then there's the time when GM Hal Smith put a nameplate on his desk that said (cleaned up version) "Dammit Hal". His reason being, since that's the first thing everyone said when they entered his office, he guessed we must have thought "Dammit" was his first name.

I guess that's about as far as I can go, as the rest of the stories mostly involve farm animals.
 
Wait a minute, one more "G" rated story just came to mind...and that's the night when several of us spent hours cleaning out the Sales Manager's office. When I say cleaning it out, I mean everything...desk, pictures, everything. All we left was the electrical outlet on the floor, to which we attached a note that said "See me. Hal". We waited around the next morning to see the poor guy's reaction, only to discover he had come in early, seen the empty office and note, and was in the bar on the first floor of the Prospect Building getting baked.

Explaining what we did to Hal was one thing, explaining it to the SM's wife after we drove him home was another.

And as an added attraction, we crammed the stuff we removed from the SM's office into 'Saur's office next door. Of course he was thrilled.
 
> Wait a minute, one more "G" rated story just came to
> mind...and that's the night when several of us spent hours
> cleaning out the Sales Manager's office. When I say
> cleaning it out, I mean everything...desk, pictures,
> everything. All we left was the electrical outlet on the
> floor, to which we attached a note that said "See me. Hal".
> We waited around the next morning to see the poor guy's
> reaction, only to discover he had come in early, seen the
> empty office and note, and was in the bar on the first floor
> of the Prospect Building getting baked.
>
> Explaining what we did to Hal was one thing, explaining it
> to the SM's wife after we drove him home was another.
>
> And as an added attraction, we crammed the stuff we removed
> from the SM's office into 'Saur's office next door. Of
> course he was thrilled.
>

LOL

I had forgotten about those. Bobby Knight's impressions were classic, especially of the sales staff...

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> > Where did Hal Smith retire after landing at Signal? Anyone
>
> > have any contact info on him?
>
> He retired to California wine country around Sacramento.
> Last e-mail I have on him was on the 440int website.
>
> [email protected]
>
My oh my...20 years ago...that is very hard to beleive! What a GREAT station KZOU ended up being. In no small part the credit goes to our two friends here, saur and bag! The sound of the station was the best I had ever heard at that time! And the "100,000 watt hog caller" and the "Arkansas' hit music monster" ID's were some of the best production I had ever heard. I would give anything to have a good clean copy of that stuff. Good job guys...we still remember!

Help me with this. What else was on the air at the time. KKYK was still around but about to take a hit like they had no idea of. KZ-95 had Bob and Jeff on in AM drive doing its best to fight with Magic 105 and Tommy Smith. They gave up the fight not long after and Bob took over production when bag left the zoo. Is that right? What other formats and call letters were around back then?
 
>
> Help me with this. What else was on the air at the time.
> KKYK was still around but about to take a hit like they had
> no idea of. KZ-95 had Bob and Jeff on in AM drive doing its
> best to fight with Magic 105 and Tommy Smith. They gave up
> the fight not long after and Bob took over production when
> bag left the zoo. Is that right? What other formats and
> call letters were around back then?
>

There were a LOT fewer stations on the air then.

92.3 was country KFXE Foxy I think
94.1 was doing the AC thing as K-lite 94
106.3 was a very poorly executed and hard to hear Urban

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> >
> > Help me with this. What else was on the air at the time.
>
> > KKYK was still around but about to take a hit like they
> had
> > no idea of. KZ-95 had Bob and Jeff on in AM drive doing
> its
> > best to fight with Magic 105 and Tommy Smith. They gave
> up
> > the fight not long after and Bob took over production when
>
> > bag left the zoo. Is that right? What other formats and
> > call letters were around back then?
> >
>
> There were a LOT fewer stations on the air then.
>
> 92.3 was country KFXE Foxy I think
> 94.1 was doing the AC thing as K-lite 94
> 106.3 was a very poorly executed and hard to hear Urban
>

100.3 was KEZQ at the time if I remember correctly....

102.9 was I think on 102.3 and being run out of Sheridan......

There wasn't much else on the dial was there....
 
> And the "100,000 watt hog caller" and the "Arkansas'
> hit music monster" ID's were some of the best production I
> had ever heard. I would give anything to have a good clean
> copy of that stuff. Good job guys...we still remember!


I've got a box of cassettes and reel-to-reels from that era stuffed in the closet here in the studio that I've been meaning to load into Pro Tools and do some cleaning up and re-mastering. Let me know how to get them to you, and I'll see what I've got.

I'm pretty sure I've got a five or six minute composite aircheck we did in the summer of '86 that not only contains a bunch of the ID's, but all the jocks as well.
 
There's a Jerry Lousteau who is the president/morning show host at WMGO-AM in Canton, MS. Prior to that, he was the morning guy at the former Hot 95.5 in Jackson. Same guy?

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> There's a Jerry Lousteau who is the president/morning show
> host at WMGO-AM in Canton, MS. Prior to that, he was the
> morning guy at the former Hot 95.5 in Jackson. Same guy?
>


That's the one.

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> > And the "100,000 watt hog caller" and the "Arkansas'
> > hit music monster" ID's were some of the best production I
>
> > had ever heard. I would give anything to have a good
> clean
> > copy of that stuff. Good job guys...we still remember!
>
>
> I've got a box of cassettes and reel-to-reels from that era
> stuffed in the closet here in the studio that I've been
> meaning to load into Pro Tools and do some cleaning up and
> re-mastering. Let me know how to get them to you, and I'll
> see what I've got.
>
> I'm pretty sure I've got a five or six minute composite
> aircheck we did in the summer of '86 that not only contains
> a bunch of the ID's, but all the jocks as well.
>

Hey I will take you up on that! I have Tom's email address can I get in touch with you through him?
 
> > Good lord! was it really 20 frigging years ago???

Hi all Bobby Knight here,..I came to the party a little later,..June of '86
if memory serves..I was at 103 in Memphis while it had it's brief encounter with CHR, when they pulled the plug, Uglee saw this as an opportunity to grab me for Afternoons, and JoJo Walker for nights..

Then the fun began.

I can honestly say that my time at the Zoo was the most fun I've had in the 25+
years in this business. It was also one of the closest air-staffs I've ever worked with. 'Bag and 'saur can back me up on this we hung out a lot! Hell, we even let Jon Allen hang out with us haha..

I forgot about the "See me, Hal" story..was I there for that one? the stories I remember are the (ahem) R-rated stories that are somewhat incriminating...

BK
 
Senior citizenship prevents me from remembering if you were there for the "See Me, Hal" episode, but you're right...you were there for a bunch of stories that never saw the light of day.

I do remember that Uglee Jerry had to constantly remind all of us that the offical name of the station's promotional vehicle was "The ZOO98/Pepsi Zoo Cruiser", and not, as we called it, That Friggin' Truck.

(said with lots of spit) "So Bobby...wanna go Zoo-cruisin'?"


> > > Good lord! was it really 20 frigging years ago???
>
> Hi all Bobby Knight here,..I came to the party a little
> later,..June of '86
> if memory serves..I was at 103 in Memphis while it had it's
> brief encounter with CHR, when they pulled the plug, Uglee
> saw this as an opportunity to grab me for Afternoons, and
> JoJo Walker for nights..
>
> Then the fun began.
>
> I can honestly say that my time at the Zoo was the most fun
> I've had in the 25+
> years in this business. It was also one of the closest
> air-staffs I've ever worked with. 'Bag and 'saur can back me
> up on this we hung out a lot! Hell, we even let Jon Allen
> hang out with us haha..
>
> I forgot about the "See me, Hal" story..was I there for that
> one? the stories I remember are the (ahem) R-rated stories
> that are somewhat incriminating...
>
> BK
>
 
Where did the Zoo staff land? Where are they now?
Some I know of
Bobby Knight in Nashville @ Oldies 97
Jon Allen?
Marc Summers?
Uglee Jerry in Canton Missippi
Greg Geary?
Randy Cain OM ( I think) at Citadel Cluster in LR.
Shadow B. Cruze (Kent Bailey) PD @ WGFX Nashville
Bob Brown owns own production company
Hot Scott. In Florida but where?

Any more? Help fill in the blanks.





> >
> > Help me with this. What else was on the air at the time.
>
> > KKYK was still around but about to take a hit like they
> had
> > no idea of. KZ-95 had Bob and Jeff on in AM drive doing
> its
> > best to fight with Magic 105 and Tommy Smith. They gave
> up
> > the fight not long after and Bob took over production when
>
> > bag left the zoo. Is that right? What other formats and
> > call letters were around back then?
> >
>
> There were a LOT fewer stations on the air then.
>
> 92.3 was country KFXE Foxy I think
> 94.1 was doing the AC thing as K-lite 94
> 106.3 was a very poorly executed and hard to hear Urban
>
 
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