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Items: Stern PS and The Doctor Is Out

The frenzy of Howard Stern's last day on terrestrial radio has mercifully subsided. One wonders who and what Buffalo station(s) will benefit "Post Stern."

Conventional wisdom says Norton & Leiderman on 97 Rock and Shredd & Ragan on The Edge are bound to pick up listeners that don't want to invest in Sirius but still want to hear an irreverent (irrelevant?), topical, adult morning show. This would likely apply to Bro Wease in Roch as well.

Conventional wisdom isn't always correct. Could be that NPR affiliates will enjoy longer TSL and cume as a result of Stern's abdication. Not long ago, an article in an industry publication featured a prominent consultant whose research found that Stern listeners were also avid NPR listeners.

One thing is fairly certain, Jack's Monday-Friday, 6 a.m. - midnight AQH shares will likely take a hit. Stern was a major component of WBUF and while he may not have been compatible with the Jack mindset, (All Train Wreck Music, All The Time) Stern brought more listeners to morning drive than any "Jack music" presentation might in the future.

No live. No local. = No listeners. = No revenue.

Item Two

The Buffalo News reports today (12/17) that effective January 2, 2006, WBEN will drop Dr. Laura in favor of live, local talk hosted by Ron Dobson, who had a successful but abbreviated run at WGR Newsradio 55 in 1995-96.

This is a smart move by WBEN. Dr. Laura was nothing more than a shrill harpy who had run her course and become a carricature. Dobson is a relatively young, smart talk show host who knows how to play the game. Moreover, he's atypical of WBEN's card-carrying wingnut line-up.

Over the last year, Dobson has been regularly filling in for Bauerle and Beach. He's refreshing and entertaining; not your typical 50+ conservative leaning talk show host. To some degree, Dobson may also positively influence the positioning of the station and guys like Beach and Bauerle. Dobson's hip, quick-witted, sardonic presence may bring much-needed 35-49's to the station, which skews heavily 50+.

WBEN's move to live, local talk in the evening has been frequently suggested on this board. It's a good move on Tim Wenger's behalf. One wonders if it's a pre-emptive move, given the recent rumours about Air America Radio on WHLD.

Regardless, it's a smart move. Live, local wins. n.b., Jeff Silver.
 
Gearing Up

> WBEN's move to live, local talk in the evening has been
> frequently suggested on this board. It's a good move on Tim
> Wenger's behalf. One wonders if it's a pre-emptive move,
> given the recent rumours about Air America Radio on WHLD.

It's about time WBEN realized that they have no bench available when Sandy finally decides to hang up his headphones or Tom Thumb finally goes completely off the deep end. And don't even try to sell me Larry Hunter.

Live and local evening talk should be a real plus for them in several ways. Air America on WHLD would also add a little spice to the mix if there's a local component and it's properly promoted. It may be that the "mistaken" posting on the Air America website prompted the brain trust at Corporate Parkway to finally pull the trigger.

I wonder how long it will take for Jack to earn a Silver Certificate - just like Buffalo's Best Talk, Buffalo's Best Rock, Alice, Dancin' Oldies, and multiple other identities before them.
 
Re: Gearing Up

I don't think that people want another "Howard." Post Stern stations should try to sell their music playlist and forget about Howard. On my way to work these next few weeks, I would be more inclined to listen to music or sports talk, than some jackass trying to do a Morning zoo!
 
>

Is Jack fm going to play music in the mornings or will they be getting a morning show? I listened to howard for 8 years between Q107 and WBUF...got tired of him as he was very repetitive eapecially with sirius.

I like to listen to norton on 97 rock as the show always has fresh content. can't pick the edge up from buffalo in Toronto as it interferes with z103.5


The frenzy of Howard Stern's last day on terrestrial radio
> has mercifully subsided. One wonders who and what Buffalo
> station(s) will benefit "Post Stern."
>
> Conventional wisdom says Norton & Leiderman on 97 Rock and
> Shredd & Ragan on The Edge are bound to pick up listeners
> that don't want to invest in Sirius but still want to hear
> an irreverent (irrelevant?), topical, adult morning show.
> This would likely apply to Bro Wease in Roch as well.
>
> Conventional wisdom isn't always correct. Could be that NPR
> affiliates will enjoy longer TSL and cume as a result of
> Stern's abdication. Not long ago, an article in an industry
> publication featured a prominent consultant whose research
> found that Stern listeners were also avid NPR listeners.
>
> One thing is fairly certain, Jack's Monday-Friday, 6 a.m. -
> midnight AQH shares will likely take a hit. Stern was a
> major component of WBUF and while he may not have been
> compatible with the Jack mindset, (All Train Wreck Music,
> All The Time) Stern brought more listeners to morning drive
> than any "Jack music" presentation might in the future.
>
> No live. No local. = No listeners. = No revenue.
>
> Item Two
>
> The Buffalo News reports today (12/17) that effective
> January 2, 2006, WBEN will drop Dr. Laura in favor of live,
> local talk hosted by Ron Dobson, who had a successful but
> abbreviated run at WGR Newsradio 55 in 1995-96.
>
> This is a smart move by WBEN. Dr. Laura was nothing more
> than a shrill harpy who had run her course and become a
> carricature. Dobson is a relatively young, smart talk show
> host who knows how to play the game. Moreover, he's atypical
> of WBEN's card-carrying wingnut line-up.
>
> Over the last year, Dobson has been regularly filling in for
> Bauerle and Beach. He's refreshing and entertaining; not
> your typical 50+ conservative leaning talk show host. To
> some degree, Dobson may also positively influence the
> positioning of the station and guys like Beach and Bauerle.
> Dobson's hip, quick-witted, sardonic presence may bring
> much-needed 35-49's to the station, which skews heavily 50+.
>
>
> WBEN's move to live, local talk in the evening has been
> frequently suggested on this board. It's a good move on Tim
> Wenger's behalf. One wonders if it's a pre-emptive move,
> given the recent rumours about Air America Radio on WHLD.
>
> Regardless, it's a smart move. Live, local wins. n.b., Jeff
> Silver.
>
 
> Conventional wisdom isn't always correct. Could be that NPR
> affiliates will enjoy longer TSL and cume as a result of
> Stern's abdication. Not long ago, an article in an industry
> publication featured a prominent consultant whose research
> found that Stern listeners were also avid NPR listeners.

Really? I thought I was an anomaly--female listener who switched to NPR during Stern's 20 min. commericial break. I leaned toward no Sirius subscription but I am now strongly considering it after sampling a friend's set. Stern plus a good mix of music and talk are the draw. I have XM via DirecTV but I'm underwhelmed. The programming is almost too niche and Dopie and Aunt Bea are lame.

On item 2, Laura is shrill and judgemental. Dobson sounds more mainstream than the mainstays so this might provide a decent balance although the show is stuck in the night time slot.



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I can't believe I'm sitting here in Buffalo. The only town where you can have a good time without enjoying yourself.
Inez (as portrayed by Amherst, NY native Wendie Malick) "Manna from Heaven", 2002</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by tokyo_rose on 12/18/05 04:25 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Gearing Up

> I don't think that people want another "Howard." Post Stern
> stations should try to sell their music playlist and forget
> about Howard. On my way to work these next few weeks, I
> would be more inclined to listen to music or sports talk,
> than some jackass trying to do a Morning zoo!
>
BUT there's the "Jackasss" then there's a good morning show that knows the 3 e's and music in the morning to go with it...I happen to like hearing the weather done by the radio personality in his/her own words that say "I'm not a weather man...but you don't need to be one to know what I just felt on the way in this morning..." I love Jack music, but I don't want to have to switch to Star to get the three e's thrown in...also Don't want a "Jockless Jack" like the one in Toronto. My radio dial is something I don't always have time to worry about in the morning...shouldn't have to. Just put a (good) morning show on Jack please CBS Radio! Thanks!...AND keep it LOCAL!<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
Music Morning Drive

> My radio dial is something I don't always have
> time to worry about in the morning...shouldn't have to. Just
> put a (good) morning show on Jack please CBS Radio!
> Thanks!...AND keep it LOCAL!

There's a problem with "More Music Mornings"...the concept doesn't work 8 out of 10 times it's tried.

The REASON many people tune into the radio in morning drive, as opposed to even afternoons, is that they are looking for the service elements...traffic, weather and news. It's the only reason music radio stations even DO those elements.

Sure, you can plant those elements in a "more music morning", but you're gonna need some way to sell 'em. And if you've got someone there doing that, you have to distinguish yourself from the crowd anyway.

I'm not saying that for some music stations, moving away from the "Zoo" type morning show is not a good idea. And in some formats, talk in the morning is less important.

But those people used to hearing Howard's talk show in the morning are gonna go looking elsewhere, especially if your replacement show has music that they don't like. Remember, Howard's been on stations with more than one format after 10 AM. Here, he's on a classic rock station...elsewhere, he's on rockers, alt-rock stations and FM or "hot talk" stations.

If I'm a Howard listener and I don't like classic rock here and Howard's not on, but classic rock is in morning drive, I change the station. If he's not the worst thing to hit radio since IBOC, David Lee Roth at least has a chance of keeping a Howard listener. (Which, by the way, I'm not, really...)

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
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