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Its been about a year now...

... Since I've started posting here. I'd like to say thanks to everyone, you've all helped me learn a lot about radio in the past year.
 
travisl5678 said:
... Since I've started posting here. I'd like to say thanks to everyone, you've all helped me learn a lot about radio in the past year.

Did you learn that it's probably nuts to pursue a career as either a future PD or a future on-air personality?
 
DavidKaye said:
travisl5678 said:
... Since I've started posting here. I'd like to say thanks to everyone, you've all helped me learn a lot about radio in the past year.

Did you learn that it's probably nuts to pursue a career as either a future PD or a future on-air personality?
Why do you say that?
 
Programming and air work has been pretty good to a few folks. I'm glad I invested in radio stations, too...they throw off a great cash flow (and yes, were up 15% last year, and were up the two previous years. The entire radio business has NOT imploded, just because the big "C" companies have screwed things up in most major markets.)

Travis, an old coach once told me "Don't let anyone steal your dream!" I'm passing that on to you. It may be as a programmer or personality at a station, or you may do your thing on the web or an app, but go for it!
 
travisl5678 said:
Why do you say that?

Because your tagline says that you want to pursue those goals. I'm saying that it's nuts to waste your time when you could have a better paying and more stable career doing almost anything else.

Sure, there are the Scott Shannons of the world, but when you read how much he's derided here, do you really want to walk in his footsteps? Aside from a few people like Howard Stern, no DJs are known nationally. A DJ is known basically to a small group of people within 35 miles of the station's signal. And even then it's such a small percentage of the population that your ego isn't going to get much stroking at all.

I once stood at the 24th Street BART station in SF and asked passersby if they'd ever heard of Ronn Owens. Out of about 50 people I asked, nobody, not even one person had heard of him. He's been the highest rated air personality in the Bay Area for over 30 years. Now imagine how few people have heard of Big Rick Stuart. God love him, he's a good DJ, but this kind of fame is really a very thin veneer.

For anybody with the ego to want to be a star, instead of radio I suggest TV, podcasts, and Internet startups. Far more people know of Adam Savage than know of Hoyt Smith, even though Hoyt has been on the radio constantly for the past 30 years.

(For those who don't know, Adam Savage is one of the stars of "Mythbusters".)
 
@David- More people around the world know Jim Lange than Adam Savage. Somewhere in the world, a "Dating Game" rerun is on right this instant. Apples and oranges, comparing Hoyt and Adam...TV always has more cume reach than radio. That's just a fact. There are more than a few CEO's that would like to make what Ronn Owens makes, never mind what several SF morning personalities still make, despite the gutting of the industry by investment vultures.
 
SFStatic said:
@David- More people around the world know Jim Lange than Adam Savage. Somewhere in the world, a "Dating Game" rerun is on right this instant [....]

But they don't know Jim Lange as a DJ; they know him from TV. In fact he used to say that people were amazed to see him around town, thinking that he lived in LA, not SF, knowing him from TV not from KSFO. A DJ labors in obscurity except for those few who listen to a station. Few? Well, we're probably reaching more people here on this board than we'd ever reach on local radio.
 
1069_KIFR said:
Not a typo meaning to say Michael Savage??? :D

Adam Savage, co-host of Discovery's, "MythBusters". In fact he was in town today to debut a new do-it-yourself shop for people who want to build things. I drove by there this afternoon and there was no room to get in. Place was mobbed, and I'm sure most were there to see Adam Savage.

More about MythBusters and Adam Savage: http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/mythbusters/
 
I've seen Adam Savage around town. I think he's a local - I know Mythbusters is filmed in South San Francisco. Last time I checked, another Discovery program - Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe - is also filmed here in the Bay Area.
 
@David...you made my point about TV vs radio. Re this board- a post here will never reach a cume of a million and a half people, which is what several major Bay Area radio stations reach in a week. When you can go on this board, mention something, and raise 20 grand in a week, then maybe I'll believe that. That's what Gene Nelson did when Kawaii was hit by a hurricane. Listeners sent over 20 grand for relief.

After the '89, quake, a little station I ran implored listeners to send blankets, water, etc. for relief in Watsonville. We took 5 semi loads of goods down there for people. It may be laboring in obscurity, but local radio has a lot of reach yet, and a lot of pull.
 
I feel that there is so many things I could do and be good at, most of those jobs would pay better than radio as well. But I feel that radio is my true passion.
 
Lkeller said:
I've seen Adam Savage around town. I think he's a local - I know Mythbusters is filmed in South San Francisco. Last time I checked, another Discovery program - Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe - is also filmed here in the Bay Area.

The Discovery channel has done lots of Bay Area shoots. The current "I Almost Got Away With It" re-enactments of crimes show is also done here. "Mythbusters" has been done in Hangar 1 on Treasure Island (where it began), at Alameda Point (the old Alameda Naval Air Station), and lots of other local spots.

The other day I saw 3 fake radio & TV vans which I thought were being used for a Discovery program. They had all sorts of bogus callsigns, but otherwise looked pretty good. However, they're being used for a movie, "Contagion" being done here.

But getting back to the point, people know Adam Savage. They recognize him. They know his name. This is not really true of radio personalities except the very few big ones. My point is not that radio has a smaller audience than TV, that's a given. My point is that being a radio star is a very very limited endeavor in the grand scheme of things.
 
DavidKaye said:
SFStatic said:
@David- More people around the world know Jim Lange than Adam Savage. Somewhere in the world, a "Dating Game" rerun is on right this instant [....]

But they don't know Jim Lange as a DJ; they know him from TV. In fact he used to say that people were amazed to see him around town, thinking that he lived in LA, not SF, knowing him from TV not from KSFO. A DJ labors in obscurity except for those few who listen to a station. Few? Well, we're probably reaching more people here on this board than we'd ever reach on local radio.


And more to the point....people of a certain age know Jim Lange from TV. If you're talking about 25-54 year olds, Adam Savage is very likely the better-known of the two.
 
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