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It's Here: The rock is back on 94 WYSP

Is there a posiibility that CBS is going after both Greater Media's rock outlets in Philly? That's what the musical direction seems to dictate (for now). I'm sure that, in time, WYSP will return to their old form of the harder edged, Active Rock, but for now, it seems that their playing the 'lighter' Active Rock to chip away at WMMR and the harder classic rock, as well as some of the classic stuff that normally seems out of place on 'YSP, to chip away at WMGK, hitting both ends of the 18-49 demo and everything in between.

Just a thought.
 
I have to laugh everytime I hear one of those liners where they poke fun at a song that MMR played that they had considered rock.
 
They're funny, but mis-directed, in the sense that they're going after songs that WMMR only play during their 'A to Z'. Not to defend them, but I think we're all pretty clear that WMMR doesn't have either 'Mrs. Robinson' by Simon & Garfunkel or Blondie's 'Heart Of Glass' in daily rotation...
 
OK!, the audio of the flip is finally here. i used the recording i did on my MP3 Player, which turned out great, its clear, and i was 80 miles away. but, it is here. i took the 2 hour recording, and edited it and made it 20 minutes long. the actual annonucement is about a minute or 2 into the recording. the recording starts as the last commercial on 94WYSP Talks, ends. it has a clip of each song played up until the first commercial break, then it stops. all of the taglines are in there as well as the very beginning, and the very end of every song played in the first 2 hours of the new format.

well, here is the link, and it is also available for download (free of course).



http://www.ilike.com/artist/94.1+WYSP/
 
Seems to me YSP is just playing the top 40 style Active, where is Kiss, Warrant, Kix, Twisted, Poison, Crue, Skid and loads of other bands they used to feature, its really the weekend on all the time. All you hear is the same Metallica, U(rotton)2, Rage(yuck), Van, Led, Pink, Petty, and some Alternative Grunge songs that made them famous, the only two jocks I would use is Tommy Conwell and Frank Lario, is Kidds show going to be music intense or just yakking, YSP keeps using the term music and no talk so this should be interesting. Where is all the music they introduced to this area from the 96-00 days. Whereas 1045 is opening up the format with Big Country, Days of the New, General Public, and many new cuts the other two are not touching. We know YSP is not gunning for 1045 but this seems to be making 1045 sound even better, they are not going anywhere. YSP better/should open up the Active format all the way and stop repeating the usual Rock tunes we hear all the time. Don't get me wrong its nice to have 3 Rock type outlets, mixed in with the saturated urban flavored dial. I have to say the Philly dial is looking better every day, 3 rock, 1 country, 1 standards, 1 jazz and the others.
 
man, I'm already bored with YSP. When I heard they flipped back to Rock, I thought they'd play some Rock which I can't hear on 104.5 or MMR. So far, very predictable.

How 'bout some deeper Zeppelin and Van Halen? How 'bout some Pantera? How 'bout some Slipknot? How 'bout some of the Metallica which MMR and 104.5 won't touch?

I almost rather have Barsky yap, then this milqtoast also-ran diluted rock crap.

Maybe its just me, but I'm bored already.
 
I am wondering if O&A will ever catch back on in Philadelphia. I would be interested to know what the turn out was for their Philly event. They need to have a massive presence in this market to make a dent in Preston and Steve. When O&A were initially on YSP they commanded as big, if not a bigger share of the male listeners than Stern. YSP was a male one stop shop...one of the most dominant programming mix I have ever seen...then "sex for sam", Don & Mike fell off the map and Stern goes away. All while calling themselves "the rock station", with not a lick of music.

Today, it's pretty obvious that Kidd Chris is destination listening for that station. People are tuning in just for that show, and Chris was on an island with no lead in. If WYSP does the RFF thing and goes music intensive in mid day, with their own "hard rock" / "modern rock" mix it will increase their tune in and tsl and will only make their PMD bigger - this is where YSP will win.

I think they are stuck with this watered down version of O&A via corporate dictate, thus the local people hand's are sort of tied. The only thing they can do is ask for more Philly visits.

As for the music mix...I was listening for a while yesterday, trying to act like a "normal" listener. I was flipping between RFF and YSP - because, I simply do not like the WMMR mix...call me crazy, but "pour some sugar on me" ain't my thing.

So, some random thoughts:

* Initially, I think there is going to be a ton of audience sharing between WYSP and RFF. If I didn't like an RFF song I went right to YSP and listened until I didn't like their song...rinse, repeat. Eventually it will shift to sharing between YSP and MMR, with MMR trying to play catch-up with the heavier sound.

* WYSP is going to re-claim the "hard-rock" listener they previously lost by playing the songs that RFF and MMR won't.

* MMR is going to settle back into all "mainstream" rock listeners, already losing a large portion of "modern rock" listener to RFF and now the "hard rock" listeners to WYSP.

* MMR and YSP are going to battle yet again, and Y100, excuse me, I mean RFF is the going to be the after thought.

* Pink Floyd fans are going to be happy again.

* RFF is going to start coming off as "very soft" to the male listener because of the constant sampling between RFF and YSP. You flip from YSP after hearing "Down with the sickness", "Killing in the name of", "Master of Puppets" and "Sober" by Tool into Cold Play, Modest Mouse or Fall Out Boy and it's going to feel like someone just threw a bucket of water in your face after a four hour erection.

Did I mention that radio is silly?
 
I agree with what most of you are saying.

WYSP isn't doing a good enough job staking out the Hard Rock position. IMO, the music mix is too close to that of WMMR -- i.e. mostly a blend of mainstream modern & heritage rock.

In fact, there are some hard-edged Active Rock artists that WMMR plays that I haven't even observed on WYSP yet. Those would include Disturbed and Godsmack. Which rocket scientist made the decision not to play them?

I've also noticed that WYSP so far bears a striking resemblence to the playlist K-Rock in New York sported immediately after it relaunched.

K-Rock, however, has already changed up its playlist quite a bit -- cutting way back on the heritage rock categories and playing a much wider mix of Modern Rock.

I'm optimistic that WYSP, too, will optimize its music mix over the coming months.
 
One has to remember, the show that CBS yanked in 200-whatever is radically different than the offering now. CBS let them back on, provided that the content is scrutinized so as to not offend the senses of the corporate lawyers. In essence, they are being hamstrung. Sure, it still pushes the envelope, but its a watered down version. Of course, the listeners from the XM side want the same show they did when they got back on. Times have changed. I am still a fan of O&A, but would LOVE to see them return to XM fulltime, where they can freely express themselves.

Now, as far as my thoughts on YSP in general, its too little too late. WMMR now, like they did throughout most of the 80's, is firmly entrenched. But now, you also have a strong product on 104.5. In this day and age, YSP may just be odd man out. We'll see, anything is possible.
 
At 5p on Saturday, September 15 WYSP played Weezer "Say It Ain't So".

That AIN'T Rock. Not a bad tune, but not ROCK.
 
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At 5p on Saturday, September 15 WYSP played Weezer "Say It Ain't So".

That AIN'T Rock. Not a bad tune, but not ROCK.
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Ok then. What defines rock?
 
Captain Obvious said:
content said:
At 5p on Saturday, September 15 WYSP played Weezer "Say It Ain't So".

That AIN'T Rock. Not a bad tune, but not ROCK.
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Ok then. What defines rock?
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just a satire of YSP's digs on MMR for playing Huey Lewis, Styx, and Mike and The Mechanics.
 
What is rock? Ah, good question. Styx, Mike & The Mechanics, Blondie, Tom Petty & The Hearbreakers etc. are declared to be not rock. Says who? Some mental midget on YSP? What can be said is that the music from these artists clearly has longevity. Why? How about melody, lyrics and musicianship. The no talent crap-ola that YSP plays won't be getting any notice in 3 years. It's thowaway. Welcome to WYSP - "Radio Nowhere".
 
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