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It's not fair...

> Now New York has TWO dance stations and Philly doesn't even
> have one!

Wait until you get out into the real world and have to start dealing with the "unfair"-ness of life's REAL problems. Dance stations will be the last thing on your mind.

Trust me.
 
NYC has 2 classic dance stations. I dont think you will ever have a pure dance station what you might get is a party station that plays dance and some classic party jams from the early 90's. Its a shame that there is no commercial dance in philly I was at the dance music hall of fame a few weeks back and it was flowing with philly people that helped bring dance to the world in the 70's and 80's. If you want to listen to dance music try www.ipartyradio.com I think this is what Philly might get down the road
 
> Now New York has TWO dance stations and Philly doesn't even
> have one!
> http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=559615&Board=nyc

Mix concentrates on classic dance. I think they do the format very well. I don't know why KTU is doing this. Probably just trying to beat Mix into the ground.
>
> Also the MLB play-offs are being broadcast on the radio in
> New York.
>

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> Life's not fair - thats why I'm paying 12.95 a month for XM
> to hear REAL oldies....

How would you compare XM REAL oldies to Music Choice's Oldies channel, I know MC is sort of free with the digital package, so I am assuming its not as good as XM. Also, how is the 70's and the Classic Rock channels on XM compared to MC.
 
> > Life's not fair - thats why I'm paying 12.95 a month for
> XM
> > to hear REAL oldies....
>
> How would you compare XM REAL oldies to Music Choice's
> Oldies channel, I know MC is sort of free with the digital
> package, so I am assuming its not as good as XM. Also, how
> is the 70's and the Classic Rock channels on XM compared to
> MC.
>


XM's 50's and 60's channel blows away Music Choice Oldies channel. XM digs deeper, and Music Choice is mostly 60's with a few 50's thrown in. XM's 70's channel is better than Music Choice. The Classic Rock channel is better on Music Choice because it digs deeper than Top Tracks.
 
> > Now New York has TWO dance stations and Philly doesn't
> even
> > have one!
> > http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=559615&Board=nyc
>
> >
> > Also the MLB play-offs are being broadcast on the radio in
>
> > New York.
> >
>
> Life's not fair - thats why I'm paying 12.95 a month for XM
> to hear REAL oldies....
>
I thought the original pretense to obtain a license from the FCC was that the station would serve the publics interest. Well, things now are far from that. Most people now are not satisfied with the level of programming as stated over and over on these boards. If you want it, go pay for it somewhere else is what I hear. I'm personally disgusted about it. I too love the oldies as well as classical music so I'm forced to make my own cds and listen to Music Choice and the SAP audio of WHYY's TV station. This isn't what is supposed to be. The reality is it is done. Deregulation and corporate merging is the cause. Only regulation allowing for low power community stations to be owned and run by citizens, not religious or book stores or any business may turn it around somewhat. I would apply for one.
 
Reading 'Tween The Lines

> Now New York has TWO dance stations and Philly doesn't even
> have one!
> http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=559615&Board=nyc
>
> Also the MLB play-offs are being broadcast on the radio in
> New York.
>

Ahem...

Slipped one over on the rest of the board, have you? Not me, bud. :) You simply have posted a ruse, a red herring, a stalking horse and a fraud.

You just wanted to play the "Philly-needs-a-dance-station" card that pops up regularly here as well as the faux-Julius entreaty of "why-isn't-WXYZ-or-whatever-broadcasting-fill-in-the-blank"?

Not fooled, old man...not fooled at all. Nice try, though. :)
 
waaaaahh waaaaahh waaaaahh

> Now New York has TWO dance stations and Philly doesn't even
> have one!
> http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=559615&Board=nyc
>

FOX NEWS ALERT: Philly is not NYC, get over it.

FOX NEWS ALERT: Dance failed (in part) in Philly (see also: "Boogie Nights" and mid-90's Star 104.5).....again. get over it.

Better yet, get an HD receiver and get the subchannel dance signal. It was one of your brethern who told me to satisfy MY rock cravings by "getting a CD or XM and leave us alone".

GET OVER IT!!!! <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: waaaaahh waaaaahh waaaaahh

> Better yet, get an HD receiver and get the subchannel dance
> signal. It was one of your brethern who told me to satisfy
> MY rock cravings by "getting a CD or XM and leave us alone".
>
>
> GET OVER IT!!!!
>
Why I get pinned as this dance station/hip hop fan is beyond me. I'm sick of people whining either way. You have XM you pay for it, Enjoy it! who cares what terresterial radio is playing. Everyone thinks they know whats best for the market, if these stations are making money it's obviously working for them. If they can hold up 3 hip hop stations, let em. When there were three rock stations I bet there was people waving the hip hop banner saying what about us. There are plenty of options out there so instead of bitching and moaning about what you want to hear find yourself an alternative and use it.

Sure it's not fair to YOU that there is no dance station not me I think dance music is slightly worse than elevator music. Poor Bob needs someone to play something rockin and with Fox News Updates every thirty seconds god forbid he cant stay fair and balanced with out it. The thing is this is the minority. Regular people deal with whats on the dial or the find ways to replace it sat radio, mp3, cds. No programmer or consultant is sitting here reading this board saying whiny pants dance man and whiny pants rock guy need their station lets make it happen. They're sitting in their ivory tower counting their dollars wondering how much cheaper than can make BEN-FM run for.
 
Re: waaaaahh waaaaahh waaaaahh

> neither one of those was a dance station
>

You basically made my point. What I meant to say was Star was a Rhythmic AC....and FAILED. Mix 95.7 had the much ballyhooed "Boogie Nights" and that disappeared as well. So, if the Mix experiment was to test the waters for dance in Philly.....they DROWNED!!! Look, say what you want about me being anti-dance. It's deeper, I'm anti-rap/hip hop as well. Opinions are like noses, everybody has one. The facts speak for themselves, Philly cannot support a dance station, plain and simple. Someone would have done it by now, IMHO. <P ID="signature">______________
I've done it all...HOO HOO...tell 'em, Fred!
FOX News Alert: YOU SUCK!!! Ya like apples?</P>
 
Re: waaaaahh waaaaahh waaaaahh

> You basically made my point. What I meant to say was Star
> was a Rhythmic AC....and FAILED. Mix 95.7 had the much
> ballyhooed "Boogie Nights" and that disappeared as well. So,
> if the Mix experiment was to test the waters for dance in
> Philly.....they DROWNED!!! Look, say what you want about me
> being anti-dance. It's deeper, I'm anti-rap/hip hop as well.
> Opinions are like noses, everybody has one. The facts speak
> for themselves, Philly cannot support a dance station, plain
> and simple. Someone would have done it by now, IMHO.

I agree wholeheartedly, I doubt Philly could support a dance station. But Bob you should ask KlassikKountry what time the meetings start ;)
 
Re: waaaaahh waaaaahh waaaaahh

Both those stattions were not programmed right. I am not saying a full blown dance station would work either. What can work is a rhythmic station. It has to be programmed correctly and promoted hard. You can throw in dance tracks, party jams, some pop tracks.
 
>I thought the original pretense to obtain a license from
> the FCC was that the station would serve the publics
> interest. Well, things now are far from that.<

You said it, pal. A radio station license has nothing to do with the public interest any longer. So let's not even bother pretending any longer.

>Most people now are not satisfied with the level of programming as
> stated over and over on these boards.<

Most people? Who is "most people?" We're a bunch of radio wonks on these boards. The general public could generally care less what we think - and rarely share our opinions.

>If you want it, go pay > for it somewhere else is what I hear. I'm personally
> disgusted about it.<

I don't blame you. But's it's where we are today - both generally in this country and specifically in the business of broadcasting. It's not a happy situation but don't look for it to change any time soon.

> Deregulation and corporate merging is the cause.<

Absolutely right.

> Only regulation allowing for low power community stations to be
> owned and run by citizens, not religious or book stores or
> any business may turn it around somewhat.<

Absolutely wrong. You'll see renewed limits on the number of stations the conglomerates can own before you'll see a proliferation of community stations. Not that either is likely, however. But I can't blame you wishing for it.

Steve
KC2LDY
 
> > Life's not fair - thats why I'm paying 12.95 a month for
> XM
> > to hear REAL oldies....
>
> How would you compare XM REAL oldies to Music Choice's
> Oldies channel, I know MC is sort of free with the digital
> package, so I am assuming its not as good as XM. Also, how
> is the 70's and the Classic Rock channels on XM compared to
> MC.
>

I didnt know XM had a REAL oldies channel, outside of the two streams dedicated to the 50's and the 60's (unlike Sirius, which has both, but they also have a stream that plays the 50's and 60's).

MC does mix it up... 50's, 60's and I BELIEVE some 70's. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: waaaaahh waaaaahh waaaaahh

Dancerev... You aren't really gonna discuss this topic with him, are you? LOL.

Of course the stations mentioned weren't programmed the way you wanted them to be. Star's idea, which I laugh about each time I hear some anti-dance zealout mention as "evidence", was insane considering the market conditions at that time. And mentioning "Boogie Nights" as evidence is also laughable since it's about the only part of 95.7 that worked and got ratings!

The format would work if done correctly here. No one has the balls to do it though. Plain & simple. Also, consider the big players in the market. Who do you trust to treat the format the right way? Beasley maybe? (They are the most likely to do it right but they're too busy with Wired.) Infinity? (As if!) Clear Channel? (I don't trust them with anything!)

The chances just don't look too great for that kinda station to be launched here. Although, if it were a Rhythmic-leaning AC foramt, I believe an audience is there. The station would just have to be run rather cheaply to assist the profit margin.



> Both those stattions were not programmed right. I am not
> saying a full blown dance station would work either. What
> can work is a rhythmic station. It has to be programmed
> correctly and promoted hard. You can throw in dance tracks,
> party jams, some pop tracks.
>
 
Re: waaaaahh waaaaahh waaaaahh

> > Now New York has TWO dance stations and Philly doesn't
> even
> > have one!
> > http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=559615&Board=nyc
>
> >
>
> FOX NEWS ALERT: Philly is not NYC, get over it.
>
> FOX NEWS ALERT: Dance failed (in part) in Philly (see also:
> "Boogie Nights" and mid-90's Star 104.5).....again. get over
> it.
>
> Better yet, get an HD receiver and get the subchannel dance
> signal. It was one of your brethern who told me to satisfy
> MY rock cravings by "getting a CD or XM and leave us alone".
>
>
> GET OVER IT!!!!
>
Well said, however if it were a fox news alert Ann Coulter would have come on and proclaimed that "liberals dont want you to dance, conservatives invented dance, now let's all do the Charleston to some old school freestyle music from the 80's"

Wow ! facists DO have a sense of humor huh?

And I must agree, get over it would be the operative words.
 
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