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It's not fair...

> I thought the original pretense to obtain a license from
> the FCC was that the station would serve the publics
> interest.

That is correct.

> Well, things now are far from that.

That is also correct. Which is why I often wonder why people still look for radio stations to serve a public interest. They have turned into businesses, pure & simple. Things change.

> Most people
> now are not satisfied with the level of programming as
> stated over and over on these boards. If you want it, go pay
> for it somewhere else is what I hear. I'm personally
> disgusted about it. I too love the oldies as well as
> classical music so I'm forced to make my own cds and listen
> to Music Choice and the SAP audio of WHYY's TV station. This
> isn't what is supposed to be. The reality is it is done.
> Deregulation and corporate merging is the cause. Only
> regulation allowing for low power community stations to be
> owned and run by citizens, not religious or book stores or
> any business may turn it around somewhat. I would apply for
> one.

Word.
 
> Now New York has TWO dance stations and Philly doesn't even
> have one!
> http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=559615&Board=nyc
>
> Also the MLB play-offs are being broadcast on the radio in
> New York.
>

Well if WPEN kept the Phillies on the air, they could have access to the playoffs, and then after the game, they could go all dance. Any thoughts on that.
 
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> Dancerev... You aren't really gonna discuss this topic with
> him, are you? LOL.
>
Of course he is. I haven't hurled any insults (lately). It's a kinder gentler Bob A. RIGHT!

> Of course the stations mentioned weren't programmed the way
> you wanted them to be. Star's idea, which I laugh about
> each time I hear some anti-dance zealout mention as
> "evidence", was insane considering the market conditions at
> that time. And mentioning "Boogie Nights" as evidence is
> also laughable since it's about the only part of 95.7 that
> worked and got ratings!

Sorry, Eg....I need to call you out on this. Can you provide these so-called numbers that state Mix 95.7 was a success in ANY demo/timeslot, let alone Boogie Nights?

As far as Star goes....it wasn't that far removed from Q back in their RCHR days. I believe, by then, they were either Urban (before the Clear Channel merger which made sworn enemy Power bedfellows) or full-blown Mainstream CHR. So, if there was an audience then Star should have done great business as the only game in town. Heck, if there were an audience, Q would probably still be dance!

> The format would work if done correctly here. No one has
> the balls to do it though. Plain & simple. Also, consider
> the big players in the market. Who do you trust to treat
> the format the right way? Beasley maybe? (They are the
> most likely to do it right but they're too busy with Wired.)
> Infinity? (As if!) Clear Channel? (I don't trust them
> with anything!)

Balls has nothing to do with it. The format is a risky proposition. Remember, this isn't New York. They have KTU and the chicken abortion once known as WNEW-FM. Sure, KTU was great out of the box. Them and their Infinity counterparts are far from setting the world on fire.

> The chances just don't look too great for that kinda station
> to be launched here. Although, if it were a
> Rhythmic-leaning AC foramt, I believe an audience is there.
> The station would just have to be run rather cheaply to
> assist the profit margin.
>

<P ID="signature">______________
I've done it all...HOO HOO...tell 'em, Fred!
FOX News Alert: YOU SUCK!!! Ya like apples?</P>
 
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No Q would not be dancing there was a few years when dance music lost a lot of its vocals and thrived on the beats. Late 90's ecstacy ran the clubs at that time. That was a major downfall for dance music. Being involved with the genre heavily I see times are changing again.
 
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Interesting bits of revisionist history! :) Whateva!

Oh...I don't still have any of the numbers regarding Boogie Nights ratings. I used to keep all that stuff but I moved and decided it was time for a purge! You certainly don't have to believe me. (No one expects you to anyway.) But since we're in a calling-out mood, feel free to provide the evidence to back up your contrary arguments. :)

I stand by my theories, as always. And as always, you do too.

Word up for the "kinder, gentler," by the way.


> > Dancerev... You aren't really gonna discuss this topic
> with
> > him, are you? LOL.
> >
> Of course he is. I haven't hurled any insults (lately). It's
> a kinder gentler Bob A. RIGHT!
>
> > Of course the stations mentioned weren't programmed the
> way
> > you wanted them to be. Star's idea, which I laugh about
> > each time I hear some anti-dance zealout mention as
> > "evidence", was insane considering the market conditions
> at
> > that time. And mentioning "Boogie Nights" as evidence is
> > also laughable since it's about the only part of 95.7 that
>
> > worked and got ratings!
>
> Sorry, Eg....I need to call you out on this. Can you provide
> these so-called numbers that state Mix 95.7 was a success in
> ANY demo/timeslot, let alone Boogie Nights?
>
> As far as Star goes....it wasn't that far removed from Q
> back in their RCHR days. I believe, by then, they were
> either Urban (before the Clear Channel merger which made
> sworn enemy Power bedfellows) or full-blown Mainstream CHR.
> So, if there was an audience then Star should have done
> great business as the only game in town. Heck, if there were
> an audience, Q would probably still be dance!
>
> > The format would work if done correctly here. No one has
> > the balls to do it though. Plain & simple. Also,
> consider
> > the big players in the market. Who do you trust to treat
> > the format the right way? Beasley maybe? (They are the
> > most likely to do it right but they're too busy with
> Wired.)
> > Infinity? (As if!) Clear Channel? (I don't trust them
> > with anything!)
>
> Balls has nothing to do with it. The format is a risky
> proposition. Remember, this isn't New York. They have KTU
> and the chicken abortion once known as WNEW-FM. Sure, KTU
> was great out of the box. Them and their Infinity
> counterparts are far from setting the world on fire.
>
> > The chances just don't look too great for that kinda
> station
> > to be launched here. Although, if it were a
> > Rhythmic-leaning AC foramt, I believe an audience is
> there.
> > The station would just have to be run rather cheaply to
> > assist the profit margin.
> >
>
 
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> Interesting bits of revisionist history! :) Whateva!
>
> Oh...I don't still have any of the numbers regarding Boogie
> Nights ratings. I used to keep all that stuff but I moved
> and decided it was time for a purge! You certainly don't
> have to believe me. (No one expects you to anyway.) But
> since we're in a calling-out mood, feel free to provide the
> evidence to back up your contrary arguments. :)
>
> I stand by my theories, as always. And as always, you do
> too.
>
> Word up for the "kinder, gentler," by the way.

Thanks for the kind words. The insults don't get you anywhere. Then again, depends on my frame of mind.

But, just see me as not so much a zealot, but providing the delicate balance to all the pro-dance on these boards. I'll be honest, if I saw an audience for dance, I'd say it. I am fair.

As far as the callouts...I think the burden of proof would be on you, since you mentioned Mix had a modicum of success. One would think Mix would still be around of the BN format would have gone 24/7, instead of Ben.

That's ok....like I said before, opinion are like noses, everybody has one. We'll just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

> > As far as Star goes....it wasn't that far removed from Q
> > back in their RCHR days. I believe, by then, they were
> > either Urban (before the Clear Channel merger which made
> > sworn enemy Power bedfellows) or full-blown Mainstream
> CHR.
> > So, if there was an audience then Star should have done
> > great business as the only game in town. Heck, if there
> were
> > an audience, Q would probably still be dance!
> >
<P ID="signature">______________
I've done it all...HOO HOO...tell 'em, Fred!
FOX News Alert: YOU SUCK!!! Ya like apples?</P>
 
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> That's ok....like I said before, opinion are like noses,
> everybody has one. We'll just have to agree to disagree and
> leave it at that.

Someone stole Bob's keyboard! ;)
 
"I'm absolutely CRYING here!" - Bruce Kelly

> One would think Mix would still be around of the BN format
> would have gone 24/7, instead of Ben.

Hey, wait a minute -- B.E.N. -- Have we really heard the last of Boog E. Nights???

I'm just sayin' :)<P ID="signature">______________

Best "Family Guy" quote EVER:

Brian: "Isn't their supposed to be an 'o' in country?"
Quagmire: "Nope!"</P>
 
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