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It's time to bring NOW back to a full hour

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doc9464

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Tonights rushed production analyzing and the upcoming 6 part analysis of health issues prompted me to say that its time to give NOW back its rightful hour. There can't be enough time to do excellent journalism....but NOW's format screams for a full hour......

I hope many will agree....the show is always decent but when it was an hour..a story could be easily "fleshed out".
 
HUH?

Sorry, but what is NOW? I don't know what you're talking about. Never heard of it. Don't see it listed on the NPR, APM or PRI websites.
 
Re: HUH?

> Sorry, but what is NOW? I don't know what you're talking
> about. Never heard of it. Don't see it listed on the NPR,
> APM or PRI websites.
>
I think doc9464 is referring to the public television program Now, which was created by devoutly liberal Bill Moyers, is funded in part by the federal government (via the CPB, of course), and thus in recent years has probably become Exhibit A in many conservatives' "government funding of public broadcasting = liberal bias in public broadcasting" criticisms.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: HUH?

> I think doc9464 is referring to the public television
> program Now, which was created by devoutly liberal Bill
> Moyers, is funded in part by the federal government (via the
> CPB, of course), and thus in recent years has probably
> become Exhibit A in many conservatives' "government funding
> of public broadcasting = liberal bias in public
> broadcasting" criticisms.

It's also a very popular podcast. I'm subscribed!

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Re: HUH?

Sorry. Maybe this thread should be on a TV board in that case.

Lest we forget, this is the same Bill Moyers who flacked for Lyndon Johnson and helped LBJ lie the US into the Viet Nam conflict - sort of the Fleischer/McClellan of the 60's. It's amazing he can show his face in public, let alone on PBS, but some people have no shame.
 
Re: HUH?

> Sorry. Maybe this thread should be on a TV board in that
> case.

You do have a point but there is no TV board specifically for
non-commercial broadcast/PBS. A true dilemna for a moderator!
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Re: HUH?

> > Sorry. Maybe this thread should be on a TV board in that
> > case.
>
> You do have a point but there is no TV board specifically
> for
> non-commercial broadcast/PBS. A true dilemna for a
> moderator!
>

If there is a need to move it ...maybe national TV since PBS shows NOW nationally....up to you of course....
 
Re: HUH?

> Sorry. Maybe this thread should be on a TV board in that
> case.
>
> Lest we forget, this is the same Bill Moyers who flacked for
> Lyndon Johnson and helped LBJ lie the US into the Viet Nam
> conflict - sort of the Fleischer/McClellan of the 60's.
> It's amazing he can show his face in public, let alone on
> PBS, but some people have no shame.
>

If Bush or Oliver North or Rumsfeld..(this could go on for days) can show his face so can Moyers..but i think this discussion may not be appopriate here either...

Bill Moyers was an accomplished Journalist...but he no longer hosts NOW...David Bronccahio now hosts NOW with Maria Hijohosa (nee CNN) as his key reporter.

Basically my thought was the show needs an hour to do the stories they pick right
 
Re: HUH?

> > It's amazing he can show his face in public, let alone on
> > PBS, but some people have no shame.
> >
>
> If Bush or Oliver North or Rumsfeld..(this could go on for
> days) can show his face so can Moyers..but i think this
> discussion may not be appopriate here either...
>
> Bill Moyers was an accomplished Journalist...

The people you mention do not(or did)on public radio or television - or commercial radio or television for that matter as "journalists."

The closest parallel to Moyers would be convicted felon and talk show host G. Gordon Liddy (also without shame). Other examples would be Moynihan-Cuoma lacky Tim Russert and Dukakis-Clinton flunkie George Stephanopolis.

Moyers an accomplished journalist? He was an LBJ protege. Got some government appointments, then became press secretary to LBJ. Went from there to publisher of Newday. From that he became an analyst for CBS News and then did documentaries for PBS (and worked for CBS at times, as well). He had connections. But never paid his dues as a journalist - he started off as a publisher!

You present yourself as a liberal, doc. How can you endorse this man who sold his soul to the evil LBJ, and has the blood of those who died in Viet Nam on his hands?
 
Does NPR air the NOW podcasts?

I've been a dedicated weekly viewer of NOW for the last two years or so (I tape it when I go out of town).

I read something somewhere (I think on my digital TV on-screen guide) recently that NPR was working with NOW (I assume for an audio version of the NOW TV show) - Does NPR air the NOW podcast?




> > > Sorry. Maybe this thread should be on a TV board in
> that
> > > case.
> >
> > You do have a point but there is no TV board specifically
> > for
> > non-commercial broadcast/PBS. A true dilemna for a
> > moderator!
> >
>
> If there is a need to move it ...maybe national TV since PBS
> shows NOW nationally....up to you of course....
>
 
Re: Does NPR air the NOW podcasts?

> I've been a dedicated weekly viewer of NOW for the last two
> years or so (I tape it when I go out of town).
>
> I read something somewhere (I think on my digital TV
> on-screen guide) recently that NPR was working with NOW (I
> assume for an audio version of the NOW TV show) - Does NPR
> air the NOW podcast?
>

It's not listed in NPR's podcast directory (which also includes PRI and American Public Media program podcasts). They don't have NOW, but they do have a bunch:

http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_directory.php
 
Re: HUH?

> The people you mention do not(or did)on public radio or
> television - or commercial radio or television for that
> matter as "journalists."

I thought we were discussing shame....Oliver North was the dirty people behind Iran Contra and he shows up to do "journalism-like" things on Fox...the others should be ashamed for various reasons...
>
> The closest parallel to Moyers would be convicted felon and
> talk show host G. Gordon Liddy (also without shame). Other
> examples would be Moynihan-Cuoma lacky Tim Russert and
> Dukakis-Clinton flunkie George Stephanopolis.


> Moyers an accomplished journalist? He was an LBJ protege.
> Got some government appointments, then became press
> secretary to LBJ. Went from there to publisher of Newday.
> From that he became an analyst for CBS News and then did
> documentaries for PBS (and worked for CBS at times, as
> well). He had connections. But never paid his dues as a
> journalist - he started off as a publisher!

have you watched Now at all? Some of his reports are as hard hitting as anything on regular TV. I get where you are going. I do but he has earned his chops as a journalist.


> You present yourself as a liberal, doc. How can you endorse
> this man who sold his soul to the evil LBJ, and has the
> blood of those who died in Viet Nam on his hands?

I don't. I think he has to sleep with his failures as we all do for our sins. Im not a judge, but Moyers was a press secretary, not General MacNamara nor LBJ. LBJ was evil in what he did. How can you currently endorse Bush, who sent us to war like LBJ and is super evil. I mean lets look at the context of the discussion. Im talking about a news show....here, not Vietnam or Iraq here. Those are sins that I cannot judge nor accept...
 
Re: HUH?

Where did you ever get the idea that I endorse Bush? I say Bush, Nixon and LBJ deserve the same cell in hell.

>
> I don't. I think he has to sleep with his failures as we
> all do for our sins. Im not a judge, but Moyers was a press
> secretary, not General MacNamara nor LBJ. LBJ was evil in
> what he did. How can you currently endorse Bush, who sent us
> to war like LBJ and is super evil. I mean lets look at the
> context of the discussion. Im talking about a news
> show....here, not Vietnam or Iraq here. Those are sins that
> I cannot judge nor accept...
>
 
Re: Does NPR air the NOW podcasts?

> > I've been a dedicated weekly viewer of NOW for the last
> two
> > years or so (I tape it when I go out of town).
> >
> > I read something somewhere (I think on my digital TV
> > on-screen guide) recently that NPR was working with NOW (I
>
> > assume for an audio version of the NOW TV show) - Does NPR
>
> > air the NOW podcast?
> >
>
> It's not listed in NPR's podcast directory (which also
> includes PRI and American Public Media program podcasts).
> They don't have NOW, but they do have a bunch:
>
> http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast/podcast_directory.php

And NPR has always been connected with "Now" in that some stories are reported by NPR reporters or are shared reporting. There's no simulcasts out there, as far as I know (and "The NewsHour" is only simulcast on public radio in those markets where the PBS station also owns a public radio station).
 
CEASE POLITICS!!

> Where did you ever get the idea that I endorse Bush? I say
> Bush, Nixon and LBJ deserve the same cell in hell.

Cease the politics. "NOW!" (nice, huh? LOL)

Where do you think you are?

The News/Talk board? LOL
 
Re: CEASE POLITICS!!

Thanks for keeping an eye on it while I've been burying the dead
(person) and trying to bring an FM transmitter BACK from the dead.
You got it...the politics is gonna cease right now or the thread
is gonna disappear. Politics is OK on the "Off The Air" board but
THIS AIN'T IT!
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Re: Does NPR air the NOW podcasts?

> And NPR has always been connected with "Now" in that some
> stories are reported by NPR reporters or are shared
> reporting. There's no simulcasts out there, as far as I
> know (and "The NewsHour" is only simulcast on public radio
> in those markets where the PBS station also owns a public
> radio station).

I don't recall when - I want to say a few years ago now, PBS and NPR entered a "newsgathering partnership". One part of this is the "PBS|NPR Newsbriefs" that air (or used to air?) on many PBS affiliates at the bottom of the hour in prime time. Other beneficiaries have been programs like NOW, where in some cases, entire video reports have been produced by or in conjunction with someone from NPR.

(And, "The NewsHour" on radio appears to be distributed to anyone who wants it - I don't know if there is some sort of market-based exclusivity, but XM carries it on XMPR 133 at 11 PM ET.)
 
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