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its TV, but :

okay so what is up w/ the omnious*?sp
:03 sweeper, on WKBW promising
Some thing new.
not just some thing new,
but some thing more than a face lift...but
maybe ...well, i dont know !?
 
While it should be on the NY TV board, it's been rather quiet there. So I just wanted to say its interesting that a year after WKBW brought back the Eyewitness News branding complete with WPVI's Move Closer to Your World theme and the attempt to benefit from the WIVB cable fiasco, the station remains dead last. They mention WKBW has had a morning newscast for 20 years now--20 years ago WKBW was the undisputed king of Buffalo TV with no fear of losing competition. How the mighty have fallen.
 
That's what happens when you rape the station to pay for corporate debt, lose a lot of established talent, and cut staff to the point where you can't compete. Style can't make up for a lack of substance.
 
dustintv said:
While it should be on the NY TV board, it's been rather quiet there. So I just wanted to say its interesting that a year after WKBW brought back the Eyewitness News branding complete with WPVI's Move Closer to Your World theme and the attempt to benefit from the WIVB cable fiasco, the station remains dead last. They mention WKBW has had a morning newscast for 20 years now--20 years ago WKBW was the undisputed king of Buffalo TV with no fear of losing competition. How the mighty have fallen.

Here, let's transform this to a radio thread.

Imagine how many more years KB Radio might have survived had (half) Price Communications years ago insisted on retaining the valuable "WKBW" call letters when it purchased the 50 kW flame thrower. Number two, imagine if Price had made the investment to retain the services of Dan Neaverth instead of letting him go to WHTT. After the calls letters where changed to WWWKB and Neaverth departed, all bets were off.

The same might be said when the hegemony of Channel 7, the news team of Rick, Tom and Irv rode off into the sunset. Channel 7, plagued by inept management and debt service went into receivership. Does this sound familiar, especially as it applies to what's going on in radio these days. Media pundit Jerry DelColliano speculates that Citadel is about to declare a pre-packaged bankruptcy before year's end.

The employees at Channel 7, especially the techs, do their best to try to make it work. But insiders at Circle 7 say the environment is toxic because Bill Ransom acts as a vindictive, ineffective tryant rather than acting as a leader who tries to inspire his troops in the face of adversity. There are many parallels to what's happening in corporate radio. So there we have it. A radio thread.
 
"Imagine how many more years KB Radio might have survived had (half) Price Communications years ago insisted on retaining the valuable "WKBW" call letters when it purchased the 50 kW flame thrower. Number two, imagine if Price had made the investment to retain the services of Dan Neaverth instead of letting him go to WHTT. After the calls letters where changed to WWWKB and Neaverth departed, all bets were off."

Price messed up every market it entered, and as a corporation, AFAIK it left the broadcasting business after emerging from Chapter XI in the mid-90s, tried a run as a cellphone operator, sold that to Verizon and has been a very low profile operation since. KB radio would have needed a different owner, or gotten a waiver to stay under CapCities/ABC ownership, to remain viable. What would have happened under different ownership, or if it had stayed under the CapCities/ABC banner?

Maybe what happened with WLS in Chicago, which made a gradual and successful transition from rock to personality talk, is a guide to what would have happened at a well-run, well-capitalized KB between 1988 and today. WLS remained CHR/Hot AC and kept its personality lilneup late into the 80s, far longer than most AM top 40s, and continued to do well. Gradually in 1989-90 they did make the transition to talk but retained a lot of their personalities and found out they could do talk radio pretty well...and gradually phased in some new uptempo talk hosts as needed. Let's suppose KB had gone in a similar direction and made a gradual transition to talk. Your KB lineup even today as a personality talker would be Danny in the morning, probably Sandy Beach in the afternoon, maybe George Hamberger in middays and Shane at night. John Zach would be running the newsroom--and make no mistake, KB in that incarnation would still have one.

WBEN would have gone from AC to talk on the same timetable it did, of course. AM was clearly the place for spoken word programming just as FM was the place for music. People like Bill Lacy and Jack Mindy would probably have been retained at WBEN (whoever owned it) and anchored that station's schedule up through today. So you'd have had a continuing battle of powerhouse talkers across the dial, also similar to the Chicago crosstown battle between WGN and WLS that's been going on for the last 20 years now with no end in sight. WGR would probably have gone to sportstalk a lot sooner, maybe even in the late 80s, and made a good run with it...the AM band would be a lot more interesting, and probably still stronger, in Buffalo as it is in Chicago or San Francisco. No one would have been a loser, but there would have been more winners, including the listeners.
 
Is it price or a previous owner that launched WKSE?
The time was there.
A time to move WKBW to FM.
That was done.
There was already a WHTT, so WKBW had nowhere to go, regardless of who ran it.
 
Under the Commission rules in effect at the time of Price's acquisition of 1520, non-co-owned properties in the same market were prohibited from using the same callsign. Of course "WKBW" stayed with the TV station.

That's why Price went to "WWKB." It was an attempt to retain the "KB" identity legally. The positioner at the time I was at 1520 the second time (1985) was "KB 1520."
 
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