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JACK FM GOING STRONG

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djpauliewog

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Rita Wilde should start feeling the heat if she is not already , looks like free form rock n radio isn't that good is it Mr Jim Ladd I mean country songs on a rock station doesn't cut it
Jack FM is going strong "without" any ZANY dj's - err "mark & brian
Jack Fm has surged while KLOS has kept steady at where they were a year ago
it's all about the music ....
Power 106 problems continue I think a major overhaul is needed "KHOOL-AID is so annoying with that hip-hop blabber its so fake and phony
i think its shows that the music industry is changing , people are tired of the cheesey HIP-POP crap that is out there

BRING BACK PIRATE RADIO ...YEAH
 
> Rita Wilde should start feeling the heat if she is not
> already , looks like free form rock n radio isn't that good
> is it Mr Jim Ladd I mean country songs on a rock station
> doesn't cut it
> Jack FM is going strong "without" any ZANY dj's - err "mark
> & brian
> Jack Fm has surged while KLOS has kept steady at where they
> were a year ago
> it's all about the music ....
> Power 106 problems continue I think a major overhaul is
> needed "KHOOL-AID is so annoying with that hip-hop blabber
> its so fake and phony
> i think its shows that the music industry is changing ,
> people are tired of the cheesey HIP-POP crap that is out
> there
>
> BRING BACK PIRATE RADIO ...YEAH
>

I agree! BRING BACK THE PARTY PIGS! JACK is cool, but Pirate Radio was great during their 89-91 years. They started the "we play what we want" theme. Don't you remember the "Screw the rules" billboards?

Comments please...
 
> > BRING BACK PIRATE RADIO ...YEAH
> >
>
> I agree! BRING BACK THE PARTY PIGS! JACK is cool, but Pirate
> Radio was great during their 89-91 years. They started the
> "we play what we want" theme. Don't you remember the "Screw
> the rules" billboards?
>
> Comments please...

I thought Pirate Radio -- at least in its early incarnation -- was a nicely focused format (demographically speaking), cleverly executed as well.

Who knows what would have happened if Westwood One hadn't been cash strapped and sold KQLZ? Maybe there wouldn't have been a Jack ... or an Indie ...<P ID="signature">______________


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> > > BRING BACK PIRATE RADIO ...YEAH

Meanwhile, LA may be the ONLY big market where Jack is doing well. In New York, it has absolutely tanked...WCBS-FM is down from a top 10 finish and shares in the high 3s 12+ and 25-54 with its previous personality oldies format, to a (deleted) with half the cume and a godawful TSL as Jack, making it THE lowest rated full market coverage FM in Market #1. Jack's also down to a (deleted) and falling in Toronto, a market the same size as Chicago with half the number of stations to compete with (which makes a poor share even worse in relative terms).

NY Post radio columnist (and former WABC program director) John Mainelli may have said it best when he titled this morning's article on the format with one word; "FLOPJack." LA may not be so much a harbinger of the future, as an anomaly in that it has embraced a format nearly no other large market accepts.

<u>Moderator Note:</u> Post edited to remove quoted ratings. For the record, the rule applies even to out-of-market ratings.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by KMRichards on 10/22/05 04:33 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> Rita Wilde should start feeling the heat if she is not
> already , looks like free form rock n radio isn't that good
> is it Mr Jim Ladd I mean country songs on a rock station
> doesn't cut it

Is there a complete thought in there?
Your basis for any of this is...what?
Sorry Paulie, but when you call yourself "DJ"...no credibility.

> Jack FM is going strong "without" any ZANY dj's - err "mark
> & brian
> Jack Fm has surged while KLOS has kept steady at where they
> were a year ago

Let's see: JACK has a strong FIRST book, and personality radio is over.
Doing any of that ZANY stuff in the club?

> it's all about the music ....
> Power 106 problems continue I think a major overhaul is
> needed "KHOOL-AID is so annoying with that hip-hop blabber
> its so fake and phony
> i think its shows that the music industry is changing ,
> people are tired of the cheesey HIP-POP crap that is out
> there

And HIP HOP is over because of JACK? Huh?



> BRING BACK PIRATE RADIO ...YEAH
>

If Scott Shannon is the answer...we REALLY have problems.
DJ Paulie...since you don't work in radio, do you even listen? <P ID="signature">______________
but wait...there's more!</P>
 
JACK STRONG

Here's a high-five to you for recognizing what's obvious to anybody with a brain.
Thank you.

P.S.- I wonder where all the Jack naysayers are now that they're #1 25-54? They must have crawled back under their rocks.


> Jack FM is going strong "without" any ZANY dj's - err "mark
> & brian Jack Fm has surged while KLOS has kept steady at where they
> were a year ago it's all about the music ....
> Power 106 problems continue I think a major overhaul is
> needed "KHOOL-AID is so annoying with that hip-hop blabber
> its so fake and phony i think its shows that the music industry is changing ,
> people are tired of the cheesey HIP-POP crap that is out
> there
>
> BRING BACK PIRATE RADIO ...YEAH
>
 
right in the Pirate

Gotta agree with you there- Pirate Radio was THE original anti-radio radio station. Because the company didn't continue to back them, I never felt Shannon got the credit he deserved for a totally unique, different and refreshing radio station.

>
> I agree! BRING BACK THE PARTY PIGS! JACK is cool, but Pirate
> Radio was great during their 89-91 years. They started the
> "we play what we want" theme. Don't you remember the "Screw
> the rules" billboards?
>
> Comments please...
>
 
JACK FM

Jack has flopped so far in New York because Viacom botched the whole thing so badly. In Phoenix, St Louis, Minneapolis, Seattle, Nashville, Indianapolis, Dallas, Baltimore and a number of other markets, Jack is doing really well for being so early in the game. Only New York (for the obvious reasons) and Denver can the results be called disappointing. Chicago- way, way too early to tell. Until their past phase of the summer book, they had a slow but nice up-trend going.

Edited by moderator to remove quoted text containing ratings info.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by KMRichards on 10/22/05 04:35 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Veep Jack Programming

How would YOU like to have as your title "vice president - Jack Programming"?

Kurt Johnson, Infinity, Dallas.

He will carry that title around ... for infinity ... or longer ...

Oh brother!

Mainelli is great. "The Dallas Morning News" hired a stringer to write radio features when the regular columnist died.

He writes puff pieces.

He seemingly believes anything anyone tells him.


> > NY Post radio columnist (and former WABC program director)
>
> > John Mainelli may have said it best when he titled this
> > morning's article on the format with one word; "FLOPJack."
>
> > LA may not be so much a harbinger of the future, as an
> > anomaly in that it has embraced a format nearly no other
> > large market accepts.
> >

Edited by moderator to remove quoted text containing ratings data.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by KMRichards on 10/22/05 04:37 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: JACK FM

Bottom line is that Infinity misjudged New York terribly. If anything they should have gone JACK on NY's K-ROCK. When Howard leaves that station it's most likely a cellar dweller. They could have kept Stern till his contract was up and still done the JACK format around him. Personally I hate the whole JACK concept. I understand it, but I don't like it. It's just a jukebox with a smarmy, annoying image voice.


> > Jack has flopped so far in New York because Viacom botched
> > the whole thing so badly. In Phoenix, St Louis,
> > Minneapolis, Seattle, Nashville, Indianapolis, Dallas,
> > Baltimore and a number of other markets, Jack is doing
> > really well for being so early in the game. Only New York
> > (for the obvious reasons) and Denver can the results be
> > called disappointing. Chicago- way, way too early to
> > tell.

> > > LA may not be so much a harbinger of the future, as an
> > > anomaly in that it has embraced a format nearly no other
> > > large market accepts.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by calguy on 10/19/05 09:40 AM.</FONT></P>
 
LA'S JACK FM

Which is #1 25-54 in the country's second largest market.

You, "personally", are obviously in the great minority. You may not agree with their style but you cannot argue with the results.


> Personally I hate the whole JACK concept. I understand it, but I don't
> like it. It's just a jukebox with a smarmy, annoying image voice.
 
"Jack's" jury is still out

> Which is #1 25-54 in the country's second largest market.
>
> You, "personally", are obviously in the great minority. You
> may not agree with their style but you cannot argue with the
> results.


Well, the definitive results may not be known for awhile.

The smarmy imagining is all part of "Jack" -- take it or leave it.

Personally ... I could not get enough of it ... for a month or so.

Then boredom set in -- quickly.

But I am not the average listener.

If "Jack" holds on the 25-54 crowd, it will stick around.

If not, then ...

Again, only time will tell.

But it's obvious "Jack" is NOT the second coming of 93 KHJ :).

But what format these days is ... or could be.



> Personally I hate the whole JACK concept. I understand
> it, but I don't
> > like it. It's just a jukebox with a smarmy, annoying
> image voice.
>
 
Re: LA'S JACK FM

Yes I'm in the minority and I'm proud of it. JACK may have done well in LA, and many other markets, but as I stated before, Infinity blew it in NY.
It's went from #9 to #22... Nuff said...

> Which is #1 25-54 in the country's second largest market.
>
> You, "personally", are obviously in the great minority. You
> may not agree with their style but you cannot argue with the
> results.
>
>
> > Personally I hate the whole JACK concept. I understand
> it, but I don't
> > like it. It's just a jukebox with a smarmy, annoying
> image voice.
>
 
"Jack's" jury

You are right- no format is a savior of radio today.

What's hilarious, though, are those who either hate or don't get JACK have slammed it for not being just that- and nobody (including those who've put Jack on the air) have ever made the claim it would be.

Jack is no more or no less than a great response to the growing frustration over 250 song station playlists and typical DJ clutter. And, it's obvious that in most markets it's resonating well with listeners.

(yeah yeah- we know it's a dog in New York. So what? Name ANY format that's ever worked in every radio market. You can't 'cause it's never happened).


>
> But it's obvious "Jack" is NOT the second coming of 93 KHJ
> :).
>
> But what format these days is ... or could be.
>
>
>
> > Personally I hate the whole JACK concept. I understand
> > it, but I don't
> > > like it. It's just a jukebox with a smarmy, annoying
> > image voice.
> >
>
 
Jack's Front, Jack's back!

Jack, the fast food founder's son is cool, mailed me a free T Shirt when he learned of my problem, and I have many Batman. I've only been able to sample about 3 Hours of KCBS FM, and the 80's Music was terrific, not your typical Tommy Tutone type tunes. Wouldn't it be great if Jack transforms into L.A.'s Flashback Oldies station someday?
 
Re: "Jack's" jury is still out

There used to be an 80's slogan on Q102 Philly.."if it's too
loud maybe you're too old" Maybe some of the comments are
coming from people not even in the target audience, its
irrelevant what you or I say, the listeners seem to respond
to it.

> > Which is #1 25-54 in the country's second largest market.
> >
> > You, "personally", are obviously in the great minority.
> You
> > may not agree with their style but you cannot argue with
> the
> > results.
>
>
> Well, the definitive results may not be known for awhile.
>
> The smarmy imagining is all part of "Jack" -- take it or
> leave it.
>
> Personally ... I could not get enough of it ... for a month
> or so.
>
> Then boredom set in -- quickly.
>
> But I am not the average listener.
>
> If "Jack" holds on the 25-54 crowd, it will stick around.
>
> If not, then ...
>
> Again, only time will tell.
>
> But it's obvious "Jack" is NOT the second coming of 93 KHJ
> :).
>
> But what format these days is ... or could be.
>
>
>
> > Personally I hate the whole JACK concept. I understand
> > it, but I don't
> > > like it. It's just a jukebox with a smarmy, annoying
> > image voice.
> >
>
 
Re: "Jack's" jury

You're right, what's weird is a lot of people who have
bemoaned radio's lack of creativity and the lameness
of 250 titles, are starting to be critical of Jack for
being in their mind too lose, not researched etc. Which
I find this hilarious since it is researched, they just
don't apply the same rules to the pos/neg testing as
do all the genuises who have helped radio fall into
the abyss in currently is in. Oldies Radio can be
vital again by the way, it has to be done in a way
that is compelling and ah, imaginative. Can anyone
give me an example of a creative Oldies station these
days?



You are right- no format is a savior of radio today.
>
> What's hilarious, though, are those who either hate or don't
> get JACK have slammed it for not being just that- and nobody
> (including those who've put Jack on the air) have ever made
> the claim it would be.
>
> Jack is no more or no less than a great response to the
> growing frustration over 250 song station playlists and
> typical DJ clutter. And, it's obvious that in most markets
> it's resonating well with listeners.
>
> (yeah yeah- we know it's a dog in New York. So what? Name
> ANY format that's ever worked in every radio market. You
> can't 'cause it's never happened).
>
>
> >
> > But it's obvious "Jack" is NOT the second coming of 93 KHJ
>
> > :).
> >
> > But what format these days is ... or could be.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Personally I hate the whole JACK concept. I understand
> > > it, but I don't
> > > > like it. It's just a jukebox with a smarmy, annoying
> > > image voice.
> > >
> >
>
 
Re: Jack's Front, Jack's back!

> Jack, the fast food founder's son is cool, mailed me a free
> T Shirt when he learned of my problem, and I have many
> Batman. I've only been able to sample about 3 Hours of KCBS
> FM, and the 80's Music was terrific, not your typical Tommy
> Tutone type tunes. Wouldn't it be great if Jack transforms
> into L.A.'s Flashback Oldies station someday?


Could The Batman ... and Robin ... have just one.

Well, that would actually be two, I guess.

Do you have an old radio station t-shirts too? Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson have lives too you know. Sort of.

To me, a song from from 1980 IS an oldie -- 25 years ago this year.

In 1974, an oldie that I played was only 19 or 20 years old -- 1954 or 1955.

Yeah, add some jocks -- Otto Mation is not much of a jock -- local news, weather, traffic, community involvement.
 
Yeah, but good news -- my batsuit is hot and I saved money on my car insurance ...

> You are right- no format is a savior of radio today.
>
> What's hilarious, though, are those who either hate or don't
> get JACK have slammed it for not being just that- and nobody
> (including those who've put Jack on the air) have ever made
> the claim it would be.
>
> Jack is no more or no less than a great response to the
> growing frustration over 250 song station playlists and
> typical DJ clutter. And, it's obvious that in most markets
> it's resonating well with listeners.
>
> (yeah yeah- we know it's a dog in New York. So what? Name
> ANY format that's ever worked in every radio market. You
> can't 'cause it's never happened).


That's right.

I thought CKLW in Detroit was better AFTER Drake split.

To paraphrase, you can satisfy SOME of the people ALL of the time ...

and you can satisfy ALL of the people SOME of the time ...

but you cannot satisfy ALL of the people ALL of the time ...

Did that come out OK madman?

This damn suit is getting hot especially in Dallas, Tejas.

93 degrees yesterday.

Are you sure this is October?

Did someone turn the calendar BACKWARD?

It ain't a bowl of cherries being a superhero, believe me.

"Please, Please Me" -- The Beatles.

"What Kind of Fool Do You Think I Am" -- Bill Deal and the Rondells.


>
> > :).
> >
> > But what format these days is ... or could be.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Personally I hate the whole JACK concept. I understand
> > > it, but I don't
> > > > like it. It's just a jukebox with a smarmy, annoying
> > > image voice.
> > >
> >
>
 
250???? I wish

> Jack is no more or no less than a great response to the
> growing frustration over 250 song station playlists and
> typical DJ clutter>

Where is there a station in LA with a 250 song rotation? I think you added a zero at the end by mistake.

Frankly, I'm burned out on Jack. I know the whole "charm" is supposed to be the train wrecks, but a bad song is still a bad song regardless of what comes before and after it, and after you've heard the same bad song 2 or 3 times you just hit another preset button.
 
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