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AliceTheCook
Guest
> the video link
http://www.cbsne> ws.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=eveningnews
>
Jack's getting a LOT of exposure lately, after the WCBS and KCBS flips. But looking at the latest ratings, it's already hitting saturation here and leveling off. But leave it to Kurt Johnson, he poisons everything he touches. The Oasis and KVIL have not recovered yet from his tinkering, and KLUV will settle back into their slow slide after this inflated, Chapman-laced book is old news.
And I thought (based on old posts here, and articles) that the Jack format was merely a franchise that stations could rent, that the music was pre-selected and was part of what you're paying for. Looking at the Dallas News article a few weeks back, sounds like Kurt is programming "what he wants to" with no regard for the proven Jack Formula. That's a disaster waiting to happen, given that he's got free reign to tinker with ALL the nationwide Infinty-owned Jacks now. No wonder we're hearing repetition and some un-Jackable songs mixed in, let alone an Infinity-typical 25 mins of commercials per hour. Must be drawing from his old days as the jock "Kurtis J" from that long career in big-time Madison, Wisconsin (true---look it up.)
http://www.cbsne> ws.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=eveningnews
>
Jack's getting a LOT of exposure lately, after the WCBS and KCBS flips. But looking at the latest ratings, it's already hitting saturation here and leveling off. But leave it to Kurt Johnson, he poisons everything he touches. The Oasis and KVIL have not recovered yet from his tinkering, and KLUV will settle back into their slow slide after this inflated, Chapman-laced book is old news.
And I thought (based on old posts here, and articles) that the Jack format was merely a franchise that stations could rent, that the music was pre-selected and was part of what you're paying for. Looking at the Dallas News article a few weeks back, sounds like Kurt is programming "what he wants to" with no regard for the proven Jack Formula. That's a disaster waiting to happen, given that he's got free reign to tinker with ALL the nationwide Infinty-owned Jacks now. No wonder we're hearing repetition and some un-Jackable songs mixed in, let alone an Infinity-typical 25 mins of commercials per hour. Must be drawing from his old days as the jock "Kurtis J" from that long career in big-time Madison, Wisconsin (true---look it up.)
It's CBS's idea for JACK in the first place. Of course CBS News will talk about their idea on their newscast. It falls under the same lines as ABC talking about Disneyland, NBC talking about Universal Studios, FOX News hyping the new Star Wars movie..etc.
> > the video link
> http://www.cbsne>
> ws.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=eveningnews
>
> >
>
> Jack's getting a LOT of exposure lately, after the WCBS and
> KCBS flips. But looking at the latest ratings, it's already
> hitting saturation here and leveling off. But leave it to
> Kurt Johnson, he poisons everything he touches. The Oasis
> and KVIL have not recovered yet from his tinkering, and KLUV
> will settle back into their slow slide after this inflated,
> Chapman-laced book is old news.
>
> And I thought (based on old posts here, and articles) that
> the Jack format was merely a franchise that stations could
> rent, that the music was pre-selected and was part of what
> you're paying for. Looking at the Dallas News article a few
> weeks back, sounds like Kurt is programming "what he wants
> to" with no regard for the proven Jack Formula. That's a
> disaster waiting to happen, given that he's got free reign
> to tinker with ALL the nationwide Infinty-owned Jacks now.
> No wonder we're hearing repetition and some un-Jackable
> songs mixed in, let alone an Infinity-typical 25 mins of
> commercials per hour. Must be drawing from his old days as
> the jock "Kurtis J" from that long career in big-time
> Madison, Wisconsin (true---look it up.)
>
> > the video link
> http://www.cbsne>
> ws.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=eveningnews
>
> >
>
> Jack's getting a LOT of exposure lately, after the WCBS and
> KCBS flips. But looking at the latest ratings, it's already
> hitting saturation here and leveling off. But leave it to
> Kurt Johnson, he poisons everything he touches. The Oasis
> and KVIL have not recovered yet from his tinkering, and KLUV
> will settle back into their slow slide after this inflated,
> Chapman-laced book is old news.
>
> And I thought (based on old posts here, and articles) that
> the Jack format was merely a franchise that stations could
> rent, that the music was pre-selected and was part of what
> you're paying for. Looking at the Dallas News article a few
> weeks back, sounds like Kurt is programming "what he wants
> to" with no regard for the proven Jack Formula. That's a
> disaster waiting to happen, given that he's got free reign
> to tinker with ALL the nationwide Infinty-owned Jacks now.
> No wonder we're hearing repetition and some un-Jackable
> songs mixed in, let alone an Infinity-typical 25 mins of
> commercials per hour. Must be drawing from his old days as
> the jock "Kurtis J" from that long career in big-time
> Madison, Wisconsin (true---look it up.)
>
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edwardrmurrow
Guest
> It's CBS's idea for JACK in the first place. Of course CBS
> News will talk about their idea on their newscast. It falls
> under the same lines as ABC talking about Disneyland, NBC
> talking about Universal Studios, FOX News hyping the new
> Star Wars movie..etc.
It wasn't CBS's idea for JACK. They are only leasing the format. If you paid close attention to the video, they were actually critical of JACK.
> News will talk about their idea on their newscast. It falls
> under the same lines as ABC talking about Disneyland, NBC
> talking about Universal Studios, FOX News hyping the new
> Star Wars movie..etc.
It wasn't CBS's idea for JACK. They are only leasing the format. If you paid close attention to the video, they were actually critical of JACK.
I paid attention to it..I actually saw it Saturday evening on the CBS Evening News. And yes, it was Infinity's idea which is part of CBS.
So, try again.
> > It's CBS's idea for JACK in the first place. Of course
> CBS
> > News will talk about their idea on their newscast. It
> falls
> > under the same lines as ABC talking about Disneyland, NBC
> > talking about Universal Studios, FOX News hyping the new
> > Star Wars movie..etc.
>
> It wasn't CBS's idea for JACK. They are only leasing the
> format. If you paid close attention to the video, they were
> actually critical of JACK.
>
So, try again.
> > It's CBS's idea for JACK in the first place. Of course
> CBS
> > News will talk about their idea on their newscast. It
> falls
> > under the same lines as ABC talking about Disneyland, NBC
> > talking about Universal Studios, FOX News hyping the new
> > Star Wars movie..etc.
>
> It wasn't CBS's idea for JACK. They are only leasing the
> format. If you paid close attention to the video, they were
> actually critical of JACK.
>
J
Jackologist
Guest
> I paid attention to it..I actually saw it Saturday evening
> on the CBS Evening News. And yes, it was Infinity's idea
> which is part of CBS.
>
> So, try again.
Ok, I'll give it a shot. But first, the fun part:
texasghost_03 --- YOU ARE WRONG!!
The idea for Jack did NOT originate with Infinity/CBS. They are merely the most aggressive at putting it on the air. here is the history of Jack.
The format was originated by radio programmer Bob Perry on an American Internet radio stream in 2000. Perry named the stations after a fictitious persona, "Cadillac Jack" Garrett, described as "a hard living radio cowboy".
Beginning in 2002, the format was adopted on Canadian radio stations owned by Rogers Communications. The first Jack station was Vancouver's CKLG, which quickly shot to the top of the city's BBM radio ratings. The format was consequently adopted on other Rogers stations in 2002 and 2003. The format proved popular in many markets where it was introduced, although its success was not always as dramatic as it had been in Vancouver. Honolulu, Hawaii is the only North American market so far where the format has failed, though in that case Salem Communications acquired the station and likely would have jettisoned the format, regardless of its success, due to that company's programming philosophy.
As well as Perry's creation, it was inspired by the success of CHUM Limited's "Bob FM" brand on CFWM radio in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Other Canadian broadcasters copied the concept as well, adopting such brands as Corus Entertainment's "Dave FM" and "Joe FM". In 2003, an Ottawa station launched "Frank FM" as a one-day April Fools prank. (The prank's name was possibly also inspired by the Canadian satirical magazine Frank.)
In 2004, American radio stations began to adopt the Jack/Bob/Dave format as well. A few stations have used the names of famous locals to promote the format, such as WMHX "Abe FM" in Springfield, Illinois, named for Abraham Lincoln, and WMWX "Ben FM" in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, named for Benjamin Franklin.
On Friday, June 3, 2005, at 5:00 PM EST, WCBS-FM, the oldies station in New York City, switched to the Jack format without any previous warning. The switch to a more generic format has been termed "the day the music died" by New Yorkers and has drawn criticism even from non-listeners of the station, particularly due to the sudden firing of DJ's of historic reknown. In a partial nod to this controversy, on June 14th it was announced that the station would be unique among those with the Jack format in that it would occasionally include 50's and 60's songs in it's rotation as well as songs by performers like Frank Sinatra that are normally not part of the Jack format, though a later Web update retracted this and it seems that songs from before the late 1960's are no longer played. While this does not mean that it will be the least successful of the Jack FM stations, it definitely generated the most negatively publicity of any market that switched a station to the Jack format.
U.S. rights to the use of the Jack name and logo are held by SparkNet, of which noted programmer/consultant Garry Wall is a principal.
texasghost_03....Unless you have a better strand of DNA, that's it for this argument.
> on the CBS Evening News. And yes, it was Infinity's idea
> which is part of CBS.
>
> So, try again.
Ok, I'll give it a shot. But first, the fun part:
texasghost_03 --- YOU ARE WRONG!!
The idea for Jack did NOT originate with Infinity/CBS. They are merely the most aggressive at putting it on the air. here is the history of Jack.
The format was originated by radio programmer Bob Perry on an American Internet radio stream in 2000. Perry named the stations after a fictitious persona, "Cadillac Jack" Garrett, described as "a hard living radio cowboy".
Beginning in 2002, the format was adopted on Canadian radio stations owned by Rogers Communications. The first Jack station was Vancouver's CKLG, which quickly shot to the top of the city's BBM radio ratings. The format was consequently adopted on other Rogers stations in 2002 and 2003. The format proved popular in many markets where it was introduced, although its success was not always as dramatic as it had been in Vancouver. Honolulu, Hawaii is the only North American market so far where the format has failed, though in that case Salem Communications acquired the station and likely would have jettisoned the format, regardless of its success, due to that company's programming philosophy.
As well as Perry's creation, it was inspired by the success of CHUM Limited's "Bob FM" brand on CFWM radio in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Other Canadian broadcasters copied the concept as well, adopting such brands as Corus Entertainment's "Dave FM" and "Joe FM". In 2003, an Ottawa station launched "Frank FM" as a one-day April Fools prank. (The prank's name was possibly also inspired by the Canadian satirical magazine Frank.)
In 2004, American radio stations began to adopt the Jack/Bob/Dave format as well. A few stations have used the names of famous locals to promote the format, such as WMHX "Abe FM" in Springfield, Illinois, named for Abraham Lincoln, and WMWX "Ben FM" in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, named for Benjamin Franklin.
On Friday, June 3, 2005, at 5:00 PM EST, WCBS-FM, the oldies station in New York City, switched to the Jack format without any previous warning. The switch to a more generic format has been termed "the day the music died" by New Yorkers and has drawn criticism even from non-listeners of the station, particularly due to the sudden firing of DJ's of historic reknown. In a partial nod to this controversy, on June 14th it was announced that the station would be unique among those with the Jack format in that it would occasionally include 50's and 60's songs in it's rotation as well as songs by performers like Frank Sinatra that are normally not part of the Jack format, though a later Web update retracted this and it seems that songs from before the late 1960's are no longer played. While this does not mean that it will be the least successful of the Jack FM stations, it definitely generated the most negatively publicity of any market that switched a station to the Jack format.
U.S. rights to the use of the Jack name and logo are held by SparkNet, of which noted programmer/consultant Garry Wall is a principal.
texasghost_03....Unless you have a better strand of DNA, that's it for this argument.
Better strand of DNA?? ha ha. That hurt....NOT. The fact you have this much time devoted to spelling out every single thing proves you have no life. And no I'm not wrong.
> > I paid attention to it..I actually saw it Saturday evening
>
> > on the CBS Evening News. And yes, it was Infinity's idea
> > which is part of CBS.
> >
> > So, try again.
>
> Ok, I'll give it a shot. But first, the fun part:
>
> texasghost_03 --- YOU ARE WRONG!!
>
> The idea for Jack did NOT originate with Infinity/CBS. They
> are merely the most aggressive at putting it on the air.
> here is the history of Jack.
>
> The format was originated by radio programmer Bob Perry on
> an American Internet radio stream in 2000. Perry named the
> stations after a fictitious persona, "Cadillac Jack"
> Garrett, described as "a hard living radio cowboy".
>
> Beginning in 2002, the format was adopted on Canadian radio
> stations owned by Rogers Communications. The first Jack
> station was Vancouver's CKLG, which quickly shot to the top
> of the city's BBM radio ratings. The format was consequently
> adopted on other Rogers stations in 2002 and 2003. The
> format proved popular in many markets where it was
> introduced, although its success was not always as dramatic
> as it had been in Vancouver. Honolulu, Hawaii is the only
> North American market so far where the format has failed,
> though in that case Salem Communications acquired the
> station and likely would have jettisoned the format,
> regardless of its success, due to that company's programming
> philosophy.
>
> As well as Perry's creation, it was inspired by the success
> of CHUM Limited's "Bob FM" brand on CFWM radio in Winnipeg,
> Manitoba. Other Canadian broadcasters copied the concept as
> well, adopting such brands as Corus Entertainment's "Dave
> FM" and "Joe FM". In 2003, an Ottawa station launched "Frank
> FM" as a one-day April Fools prank. (The prank's name was
> possibly also inspired by the Canadian satirical magazine
> Frank.)
>
> In 2004, American radio stations began to adopt the
> Jack/Bob/Dave format as well. A few stations have used the
> names of famous locals to promote the format, such as WMHX
> "Abe FM" in Springfield, Illinois, named for Abraham
> Lincoln, and WMWX "Ben FM" in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
> named for Benjamin Franklin.
>
> On Friday, June 3, 2005, at 5:00 PM EST, WCBS-FM, the oldies
> station in New York City, switched to the Jack format
> without any previous warning. The switch to a more generic
> format has been termed "the day the music died" by New
> Yorkers and has drawn criticism even from non-listeners of
> the station, particularly due to the sudden firing of DJ's
> of historic reknown. In a partial nod to this controversy,
> on June 14th it was announced that the station would be
> unique among those with the Jack format in that it would
> occasionally include 50's and 60's songs in it's rotation as
> well as songs by performers like Frank Sinatra that are
> normally not part of the Jack format, though a later Web
> update retracted this and it seems that songs from before
> the late 1960's are no longer played. While this does not
> mean that it will be the least successful of the Jack FM
> stations, it definitely generated the most negatively
> publicity of any market that switched a station to the Jack
> format.
>
> U.S. rights to the use of the Jack name and logo are held by
> SparkNet, of which noted programmer/consultant Garry Wall is
> a principal.
>
> texasghost_03....Unless you have a better strand of DNA,
> that's it for this argument.
>
> > I paid attention to it..I actually saw it Saturday evening
>
> > on the CBS Evening News. And yes, it was Infinity's idea
> > which is part of CBS.
> >
> > So, try again.
>
> Ok, I'll give it a shot. But first, the fun part:
>
> texasghost_03 --- YOU ARE WRONG!!
>
> The idea for Jack did NOT originate with Infinity/CBS. They
> are merely the most aggressive at putting it on the air.
> here is the history of Jack.
>
> The format was originated by radio programmer Bob Perry on
> an American Internet radio stream in 2000. Perry named the
> stations after a fictitious persona, "Cadillac Jack"
> Garrett, described as "a hard living radio cowboy".
>
> Beginning in 2002, the format was adopted on Canadian radio
> stations owned by Rogers Communications. The first Jack
> station was Vancouver's CKLG, which quickly shot to the top
> of the city's BBM radio ratings. The format was consequently
> adopted on other Rogers stations in 2002 and 2003. The
> format proved popular in many markets where it was
> introduced, although its success was not always as dramatic
> as it had been in Vancouver. Honolulu, Hawaii is the only
> North American market so far where the format has failed,
> though in that case Salem Communications acquired the
> station and likely would have jettisoned the format,
> regardless of its success, due to that company's programming
> philosophy.
>
> As well as Perry's creation, it was inspired by the success
> of CHUM Limited's "Bob FM" brand on CFWM radio in Winnipeg,
> Manitoba. Other Canadian broadcasters copied the concept as
> well, adopting such brands as Corus Entertainment's "Dave
> FM" and "Joe FM". In 2003, an Ottawa station launched "Frank
> FM" as a one-day April Fools prank. (The prank's name was
> possibly also inspired by the Canadian satirical magazine
> Frank.)
>
> In 2004, American radio stations began to adopt the
> Jack/Bob/Dave format as well. A few stations have used the
> names of famous locals to promote the format, such as WMHX
> "Abe FM" in Springfield, Illinois, named for Abraham
> Lincoln, and WMWX "Ben FM" in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
> named for Benjamin Franklin.
>
> On Friday, June 3, 2005, at 5:00 PM EST, WCBS-FM, the oldies
> station in New York City, switched to the Jack format
> without any previous warning. The switch to a more generic
> format has been termed "the day the music died" by New
> Yorkers and has drawn criticism even from non-listeners of
> the station, particularly due to the sudden firing of DJ's
> of historic reknown. In a partial nod to this controversy,
> on June 14th it was announced that the station would be
> unique among those with the Jack format in that it would
> occasionally include 50's and 60's songs in it's rotation as
> well as songs by performers like Frank Sinatra that are
> normally not part of the Jack format, though a later Web
> update retracted this and it seems that songs from before
> the late 1960's are no longer played. While this does not
> mean that it will be the least successful of the Jack FM
> stations, it definitely generated the most negatively
> publicity of any market that switched a station to the Jack
> format.
>
> U.S. rights to the use of the Jack name and logo are held by
> SparkNet, of which noted programmer/consultant Garry Wall is
> a principal.
>
> texasghost_03....Unless you have a better strand of DNA,
> that's it for this argument.
>
<a target="_blank" href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_FM>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_FM</a>
> Better strand of DNA?? ha ha. That hurt....NOT. The fact
> you have this much time devoted to spelling out every single
> thing proves you have no life. And no I'm not wrong.
> Better strand of DNA?? ha ha. That hurt....NOT. The fact
> you have this much time devoted to spelling out every single
> thing proves you have no life. And no I'm not wrong.
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edwardrmurrow
Guest
Well said Jackologist!Texas Ghost had his mind made up before the news story started.
Geez Louise, can you tell we're having a hotter summer than usual? Alot of macho testosterone running a muck on the boards these days.
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edwardrmurrow
Guest
> Better strand of DNA?? ha ha. That hurt....NOT. The fact
> you have this much time devoted to spelling out every single
> thing proves you have no life. And no I'm not wrong.
A snappy comeback devoid of accuracy.
> you have this much time devoted to spelling out every single
> thing proves you have no life. And no I'm not wrong.
A snappy comeback devoid of accuracy.
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edwardrmurrow
Guest
> Geez Louise, can you tell we're having a hotter summer than
> usual? Alot of macho testosterone running a muck on the
> boards these days.
>
Red level warnings have been issued
> usual? Alot of macho testosterone running a muck on the
> boards these days.
>
Red level warnings have been issued
J
Jackologist
Guest
> Better strand of DNA?? ha ha. That hurt....NOT. The fact
> you have this much time devoted to spelling out every single
> thing proves you have no life. And no I'm not wrong.
Ah, ghost....that's funny! The fact that you'd subject yourself to further ridicule by even replying with such an ignorant rejoinder devoid of even a shred of content to buttress your spurious claim! As far as the amount of time it took me to post the story vs. my quest for "a life" (and, thanks for caring), I must confess it was a cut n paste gig, and the whole thing took me only 45 seconds. The act of dispatching the truth can be rather expedient. That stuff just writes itself!
Now perhaps you can move on to your next project, and enlighten us all with your first hand account of the Titanic's second voyage.
> you have this much time devoted to spelling out every single
> thing proves you have no life. And no I'm not wrong.
Ah, ghost....that's funny! The fact that you'd subject yourself to further ridicule by even replying with such an ignorant rejoinder devoid of even a shred of content to buttress your spurious claim! As far as the amount of time it took me to post the story vs. my quest for "a life" (and, thanks for caring), I must confess it was a cut n paste gig, and the whole thing took me only 45 seconds. The act of dispatching the truth can be rather expedient. That stuff just writes itself!
Now perhaps you can move on to your next project, and enlighten us all with your first hand account of the Titanic's second voyage.
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