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ian
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One of the smallest Jacks out there, 92.3 Smiths Falls Ontario, has gone to a 60s and 70s oldies based format, still as Jack-fm. They now play 2-3 80s songs an hour and nothing newer.
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> One of the smallest Jacks out there, 92.3 Smiths Falls
> Ontario, has gone to a 60s and 70s oldies based format,
> still as Jack-fm. They now play 2-3 80s songs an hour and
> nothing newer.
>
I'm willing to speculate the same thing will happen in Toronto Canada, where ratings appear to be below what they should be.
> Ontario, has gone to a 60s and 70s oldies based format,
> still as Jack-fm. They now play 2-3 80s songs an hour and
> nothing newer.
>
I'm willing to speculate the same thing will happen in Toronto Canada, where ratings appear to be below what they should be.
I
ian
Guest
> > One of the smallest Jacks out there, 92.3 Smiths Falls
> > Ontario, has gone to a 60s and 70s oldies based format,
> > still as Jack-fm. They now play 2-3 80s songs an hour and
> > nothing newer.
> >
> I'm willing to speculate the same thing will happen in
> Toronto Canada, where ratings appear to be below what they
> should be.
>
It would be harder for Toronto to do that, as they have to follow the non-hit rule that keeps olides off FM - not to mention their 40% Cancon. Jack Smiths-Falls only has to play 15% non-hit.
> > Ontario, has gone to a 60s and 70s oldies based format,
> > still as Jack-fm. They now play 2-3 80s songs an hour and
> > nothing newer.
> >
> I'm willing to speculate the same thing will happen in
> Toronto Canada, where ratings appear to be below what they
> should be.
>
It would be harder for Toronto to do that, as they have to follow the non-hit rule that keeps olides off FM - not to mention their 40% Cancon. Jack Smiths-Falls only has to play 15% non-hit.
> One of the smallest Jacks out there, 92.3 Smiths Falls
> Ontario, has gone to a 60s and 70s oldies based format,
> still as Jack-fm. They now play 2-3 80s songs an hour and
> nothing newer.
Very interesting... Tonight I discovered (in doing research about this situation, thanks to your tip) that CJET-FM is prohibited from soliciting advertising from the Ottawa market, though it does rimshot it a bit. Do you, Ian, or anyone else for that matter, know if 93.9 Bob FM (CKKL) in Ottawa has coverage into the Smiths Falls area? That's the only logical reason I can see for CJET-FM making the move...
Another question: should it be de-listed in the Variety Hits directory? It doesn't meet the criteria per se, but it's an unusual situation since it is a licensed JACK-FM station, and it transitioned to this different timeframe. Thoughts?
VarietyHits.com
> Ontario, has gone to a 60s and 70s oldies based format,
> still as Jack-fm. They now play 2-3 80s songs an hour and
> nothing newer.
Very interesting... Tonight I discovered (in doing research about this situation, thanks to your tip) that CJET-FM is prohibited from soliciting advertising from the Ottawa market, though it does rimshot it a bit. Do you, Ian, or anyone else for that matter, know if 93.9 Bob FM (CKKL) in Ottawa has coverage into the Smiths Falls area? That's the only logical reason I can see for CJET-FM making the move...
Another question: should it be de-listed in the Variety Hits directory? It doesn't meet the criteria per se, but it's an unusual situation since it is a licensed JACK-FM station, and it transitioned to this different timeframe. Thoughts?
VarietyHits.com
> It would be harder for Toronto to do that, as they have to
> follow the non-hit rule that keeps olides off FM - not to
> mention their 40% Cancon. Jack Smiths-Falls only has to play
> 15% non-hit.
>
Not that this matters much, but how much can con does the Smith falls Jack have to play? I thought Toronto's Jack = 40 percent, but Smith falls Jack = only 35 percent can con.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
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> follow the non-hit rule that keeps olides off FM - not to
> mention their 40% Cancon. Jack Smiths-Falls only has to play
> 15% non-hit.
>
Not that this matters much, but how much can con does the Smith falls Jack have to play? I thought Toronto's Jack = 40 percent, but Smith falls Jack = only 35 percent can con.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
I
ian
Guest
Do you, Ian, or
> anyone else for that matter, know if 93.9 Bob FM (CKKL) in
> Ottawa has coverage into the Smiths Falls area? That's the
> only logical reason I can see for CJET-FM making the move...
Yes, BOB and all the other Ottawa FMs make it into Smiths Falls. My reasoning for the change, though, is that JACK may have been stepping over co-owned KISS-FM in the west-end suburbs a bit. JACK doesn't participate in Ottawa ratings, but they can still have a negative effect on other stations.
> Another question: should it be de-listed in the Variety Hits
> directory?
I'd be tempted to keep it - it's still imaged the same - the music just got a bit older. Tough call, though.
> anyone else for that matter, know if 93.9 Bob FM (CKKL) in
> Ottawa has coverage into the Smiths Falls area? That's the
> only logical reason I can see for CJET-FM making the move...
Yes, BOB and all the other Ottawa FMs make it into Smiths Falls. My reasoning for the change, though, is that JACK may have been stepping over co-owned KISS-FM in the west-end suburbs a bit. JACK doesn't participate in Ottawa ratings, but they can still have a negative effect on other stations.
> Another question: should it be de-listed in the Variety Hits
> directory?
I'd be tempted to keep it - it's still imaged the same - the music just got a bit older. Tough call, though.
I
ian
Guest
> > It would be harder for Toronto to do that, as they have to
>
> > follow the non-hit rule that keeps olides off FM - not to
> > mention their 40% Cancon. Jack Smiths-Falls only has to
> play
> > 15% non-hit.
> >
> Not that this matters much, but how much can con does the
> Smith falls Jack have to play? I thought Toronto's Jack = 40
> percent, but Smith falls Jack = only 35 percent can con.
>
That's right.
>
> > follow the non-hit rule that keeps olides off FM - not to
> > mention their 40% Cancon. Jack Smiths-Falls only has to
> play
> > 15% non-hit.
> >
> Not that this matters much, but how much can con does the
> Smith falls Jack have to play? I thought Toronto's Jack = 40
> percent, but Smith falls Jack = only 35 percent can con.
>
That's right.
I
ian
Guest
Sample Hour
I think you can remove this one from "Variety Hits"
Cowsills - Hair (1969) cc
Marvin Gaye - What's going on (1971)
Linda Rondstadt - Different Drum (1967)
Copperpenny - You're still the one (1973) cc
Phil Collins - Don't lose my number (1985)
Eagles - Tequila Sunrise (1973)
Lovin' Spoonful - You didn't have to be so nice (1965)
Five Man Electrical Band - I'm a stranger here (1973) cc
-----break-----
Madasun - Don't you worry bout me (196?)
Captin & Tennille - Do that to me one more time (1980)
Bryan Adams - This time (1983) cc
Manfred Mann - Quinn the Eskimo (1968)
Ray Materick - Linda put the coffee on (1975) cc
Climax Blues Band - I love you (1980)
Andy Kim - Rock me gently (1974) cc
---break----
Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour (1967)
Police - Roxanne (1979)
Blood Sweat & Tears - When I die (1969) cc
I think you can remove this one from "Variety Hits"
Cowsills - Hair (1969) cc
Marvin Gaye - What's going on (1971)
Linda Rondstadt - Different Drum (1967)
Copperpenny - You're still the one (1973) cc
Phil Collins - Don't lose my number (1985)
Eagles - Tequila Sunrise (1973)
Lovin' Spoonful - You didn't have to be so nice (1965)
Five Man Electrical Band - I'm a stranger here (1973) cc
-----break-----
Madasun - Don't you worry bout me (196?)
Captin & Tennille - Do that to me one more time (1980)
Bryan Adams - This time (1983) cc
Manfred Mann - Quinn the Eskimo (1968)
Ray Materick - Linda put the coffee on (1975) cc
Climax Blues Band - I love you (1980)
Andy Kim - Rock me gently (1974) cc
---break----
Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour (1967)
Police - Roxanne (1979)
Blood Sweat & Tears - When I die (1969) cc
Re: Sample Hour
Their biggest mistake may end up being the fact that they're still called Jack.
With that much change, and the same name, people who like that kind of music, but didn't like the kind of music Jack played before may fail to notice the new Jack...
PLUS, they own Oldies 1310, will it take too much attention away from that station?
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by YeziKnoradio on 11/11/05 01:34 PM.</FONT></P>
Their biggest mistake may end up being the fact that they're still called Jack.
With that much change, and the same name, people who like that kind of music, but didn't like the kind of music Jack played before may fail to notice the new Jack...
PLUS, they own Oldies 1310, will it take too much attention away from that station?
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by YeziKnoradio on 11/11/05 01:34 PM.</FONT></P>
I
ian
Guest
Re: Sample Hour
> PLUS, they own Oldies 1310, will it take too much attention
> away from that station?
>
I don't think they care.
> PLUS, they own Oldies 1310, will it take too much attention
> away from that station?
>
I don't think they care.
Re: Sample Hour
The biggest laugh is that this is considered a format. This is something anyone can do. It's anyone's game now. Time to start paying PD's 7.50 per hour.
> Their biggest mistake may end up being the fact that they're
> still called Jack.
> With that much change, and the same name, people who like
> that kind of music, but didn't like the kind of music Jack
> played before may fail to notice the new Jack...
>
> PLUS, they own Oldies 1310, will it take too much attention
> away from that station?
>
The biggest laugh is that this is considered a format. This is something anyone can do. It's anyone's game now. Time to start paying PD's 7.50 per hour.
> Their biggest mistake may end up being the fact that they're
> still called Jack.
> With that much change, and the same name, people who like
> that kind of music, but didn't like the kind of music Jack
> played before may fail to notice the new Jack...
>
> PLUS, they own Oldies 1310, will it take too much attention
> away from that station?
>
J
jack
Guest
Re: Sample Hour
> The biggest laugh is that this is considered a format. This
> is something anyone can do. It's anyone's game now. Time to
> start paying PD's 7.50 per hour.
>
Gee, sorry, we called your GM and he said you won't get the raise. :'P
> The biggest laugh is that this is considered a format. This
> is something anyone can do. It's anyone's game now. Time to
> start paying PD's 7.50 per hour.
>
Gee, sorry, we called your GM and he said you won't get the raise. :'P
Re: Sample Hour
> > The biggest laugh is that this is considered a format.
> This
> > is something anyone can do. It's anyone's game now. Time
> to
> > start paying PD's 7.50 per hour.
> >
> Gee, sorry, we called your GM and he said you won't get the
> raise. :'P
>
What GM? He doesn't have one.
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> > The biggest laugh is that this is considered a format.
> This
> > is something anyone can do. It's anyone's game now. Time
> to
> > start paying PD's 7.50 per hour.
> >
> Gee, sorry, we called your GM and he said you won't get the
> raise. :'P
>
What GM? He doesn't have one.
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Re: Sample Hour
> If you're a PD, what do you do that requires you to make
> more than $7.50 an hour?
>
My best guess: Multi pd? More than one station perhaps?
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> If you're a PD, what do you do that requires you to make
> more than $7.50 an hour?
>
My best guess: Multi pd? More than one station perhaps?
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
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