Jack

[Musicradio]

What will happen when "Jack" loses his crown
and rolls down the hill, ratings-wise?

One book, two books, maybe??

 

[Yeziknoradio]

> What will happen when "Jack" loses his crown
> and rolls down the hill, ratings-wise?
>
> One book, two books, maybe??
>
They sit back, chug a beer or two, laugh and say that it's still the cheapest format to run. Less listeners, but ALOT less staff. HA HA HA HA HA!

No need for the dj, they're too busy telling the listener to F*** OFF when you have a request!

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[sfradio]

> > What will happen when "Jack" loses his crown
> > and rolls down the hill, ratings-wise?
> >
> > One book, two books, maybe??
> >
> They sit back, chug a beer or two, laugh and say that it's
> still the cheapest format to run. Less listeners, but ALOT
> less staff. HA HA HA HA HA!
>
> No need for the dj, they're too busy telling the listener to
> F*** OFF when you have a request!
>
if you don't like this format then why are you here? if you don't like it go to your regulur channel with boring jocks and music over and over again<P ID="signature">______________
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[Yeziknoradio]

> if you don't like this format then why are you here? if you
> don't like it go to your regulur channel with boring jocks
> and music over and over again
>
The music is fine, the decision to refrain from taking requests isnt...and WHAT CHANNEL???????????????????????????<P ID="signature">______________
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[OldiesCat]

U must be kidding

oh yeah- the survival of radio as we know it is based on whether stations say they "take requests".



> >
> The music is fine, the decision to refrain from taking
> requests isnt...

 

[Yeziknoradio]

Re: not kidding

> oh yeah- the survival of radio as we know it is based on
> whether stations say they "take requests".

It helps...even if it's only a Saturday night or something.
It's nice to listen to a station with a local radio dj that puts callers(adults, more so than kids) on the air, and plays their request.
I love hearing callers say stuff like "I can't tell you where I work!" Sometimes a security guard or whoever just doesn't want to leak out their location, and I don't blame them, but a good radio personality has alot of fun with it anyway.
It's also nice to hear the dj sound like he's having fun, but better to hear him end the call with "ok here's your song" or something to that degree.

The truth must be that Infinity, etc, are not professional enough to be in the radio business any more. If they were, they'd play a request.
This has nothing to do with the fact that radio is not a music busness, but rather, alot to do with the fact that there's just less and less there to be the bait. An ipod plays what it wants on shuffle too, but a station with personality, better delivers the feeling that resorting to the ipod may mean that the listener will miss something.

Why is it such a crime for me to want My favorite station to play Taco's puttin' on the ritz or Billy Joel's uptown girl? Jack needs to understand that requests help.

I havn't bought an ipod yet, but Jack is pushing me to it...is that what Infinity, and the other Jack companies out there want?

(The "Play what we want" no request Jacks that is.)

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[eGillCVI]

Re: not kidding

There's too much competition these days. Radio can't survive--and make money--by taking requests. Everything has to be perfect so that as much of the day as possible will appeal to as large a segment of the target demo as possible. The days of radio requests are over.

I know that jocks go on the air asking for requests constantly but the requests have absolutely nothing to do with what gets on the air. Seriously. Almost never!

When you call and make a request, chances are it's on the log somewhere anyway. It might be coming up in three hours. Better than half the time, you're asking for the song because you know the station you're calling plays it. So it's there anyway. You just have to wait for it. Do you think the jock is gonna say to you "Well, you'll have to wait three hours"? No way, he or she will say "I'll try to get that on for ya!" or "It's coming up!"

When you want to hear a song, a more realistic approach is to call and ask if it's coming up. If they say yes, ask what hour. 9 times out of 10, they'll give you the information you're looking for. It works a lot better than asking for a particular song and then sticking by the radio so you won't miss it!

Now don't get me wrong: I long for the days when radio requests meant something. Things weren't so cut-throat/dog-eat-dog and radio was free to be fun. All the fun (personality) and spontaneity (requests) have been sanitized from all-but-the-tiniest of markets.

> > oh yeah- the survival of radio as we know it is based on
> > whether stations say they "take requests".
>
> It helps...even if it's only a Saturday night or something.
> It's nice to listen to a station with a local radio dj that
> puts callers(adults, more so than kids) on the air, and
> plays their request.
> I love hearing callers say stuff like "I can't tell you
> where I work!" Sometimes a security guard or whoever just
> doesn't want to leak out their location, and I don't blame
> them, but a good radio personality has alot of fun with it
> anyway.
> It's also nice to hear the dj sound like he's having fun,
> but better to hear him end the call with "ok here's your
> song" or something to that degree.
>
> The truth must be that Infinity, etc, are not professional
> enough to be in the radio business any more. If they were,
> they'd play a request.
> This has nothing to do with the fact that radio is not a
> music busness, but rather, alot to do with the fact that
> there's just less and less there to be the bait. An ipod
> plays what it wants on shuffle too, but a station with
> personality, better delivers the feeling that resorting to
> the ipod may mean that the listener will miss something.
>
> Why is it such a crime for me to want My favorite station to
> play Taco's puttin' on the ritz or Billy Joel's uptown girl?
> Jack needs to understand that requests help.
>
> I havn't bought an ipod yet, but Jack is pushing me to
> it...is that what Infinity, and the other Jack companies out
> there want?
>
> (The "Play what we want" no request Jacks that is.)
>

 

[Yeziknoradio]

Re: not kidding

> When you call and make a request, chances are it's on the
> log somewhere anyway. It might be coming up in three hours.
> Now don't get me wrong: I long for the days when radio
> requests meant something. Things weren't so
> cut-throat/dog-eat-dog and radio was free to be fun. All
> the fun (personality) and spontaneity (requests) have been
> sanitized from all-but-the-tiniest of markets.

The dj can openly admit that a certain song isn't in the "Song bank" and tell the listener to call the md and request it to be added to the list.

A song 3 hours from now, played within the hour is also a good idea.

Here's an example of the BEST Saturday night Retro MIX, complete with requests and a radio personality that REALLY knows how to keep the ipod off:

They call him the Punch man. (punching the ipod away I guess, lol)

http://www.mix999.com You can listen live this Saturday night and judge for yourself.

(sadly, I regret to inform you, the station is automated most other times, but at least I found a good example of a great LIVE and LOCAL Saturday night radio show)<P ID="signature">______________
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[OldiesCat]

big-picture

you're looking at this whole thing from a "me" viewpoint.

The real world of radio is that fewer than 5% of any station's cume every participates with the station via requesting songs, playing contests or attending station events. The whole "requests" thing for years has been mostly cosmetic but in reality a station saying (or not saying) "hey call in - we play requests", even on a weekend show, is just not that big a deal (to anyone but you).


>
> The dj can openly admit that a certain song isn't in the
> "Song bank" and tell the listener to call the md and request
> it to be added to the list.
>
> A song 3 hours from now, played within the hour is also a
> good idea.
>
> Here's an example of the BEST Saturday night Retro MIX,
> complete with requests and a radio personality that REALLY
> knows how to keep the ipod off:
>
> They call him the Punch man. (punching the ipod away I
> guess, lol)
>
> http://www.mix999.com You can listen live this Saturday
> night and judge for yourself.
>
> (sadly, I regret to inform you, the station is automated
> most other times, but at least I found a good example of a
> great LIVE and LOCAL Saturday night radio show)
>

 

[tibbs]

Re: big-picture

> you're looking at this whole thing from a "me" viewpoint.
>
> The real world of radio is that fewer than 5% of any
> station's cume every participates with the station via
> requesting songs, playing contests or attending station
> events. The whole "requests" thing for years has been
> mostly cosmetic but in reality a station saying (or not
> saying) "hey call in - we play requests", even on a weekend
> show, is just not that big a deal (to anyone but you).


Back in the 70's and 80's request lines kept people
connected. Now people know the scam. They aren't going
to get a request ever. I'd say the response from
listeners on anything is less than 1%. When's the
last time you did a remote? Remotes used to be about "seeing the
jock" and all that. Beyond four or five personalities
in each market, few listeners know who is on the air --
or sadly, care. Hence, Jack and the brilliant future
of radio and the careers of 1,000's.

 

[OldiesCat]

big-picture

Please, let's not throw the entire industry under the bus because of a couple of dorks that all these years really thought the "request lines" drove the radio station. And, which personalities are you talking about in regard to remotes-
the jocks who insist on unreasonable money to do an appearance or the jocks who
hide in the station van or behind a table at the bar for the entire remote?


>
> Back in the 70's and 80's request lines kept people
> connected. Now people know the scam. They aren't going
> to get a request ever. I'd say the response from
> listeners on anything is less than 1%. When's the
> last time you did a remote? Remotes used to be about "seeing
> the
> jock" and all that. Beyond four or five personalities
> in each market, few listeners know who is on the air --
> or sadly, care. Hence, Jack and the brilliant future
> of radio and the careers of 1,000's.
>

 

[staticradio]

> > > What will happen when "Jack" loses his crown
> > > and rolls down the hill, ratings-wise?
> > >
> > > One book, two books, maybe??
> > >
> > They sit back, chug a beer or two, laugh and say that it's
>
> > still the cheapest format to run. Less listeners, but ALOT
>
> > less staff. HA HA HA HA HA!
> >
> > No need for the dj, they're too busy telling the listener
> to
> > F*** OFF when you have a request!
> >
> if you don't like this format then why are you here? if you
> don't like it go to your regulur channel with boring jocks
> and music over and over again

Sadly, this is worse then having no personalities on the air (the only thing sometimes worth listening to on a terrestrial radio station today). It's basically the same music you've been fed for the past 30 years, just in a new package.

Like the Concretes song: "Say something new!"

 

[tibbs]

Re: big-picture

> which personalities are you talking about in regard to
> remotes-
> the jocks who insist on unreasonable money to do an
> appearance or the jocks who
> hide in the station van or behind a table at the bar for the
> entire remote?

Hehehe...
1,000 bucks per remote can only buy so many shots of tequila.
That radio gig is tough work, especially out in the trenches.
At least answering those damned phones is a thing of the past!
That was stress. Plus that new JACK thang puts a stop to those
pesky kids calling every 45 seconds. But the JACK in the can
prank calls have to be driving someone crazy.

 

[Yeziknoradio]

Re: big-picture

> Please, let's not throw the entire industry under the bus
> because of a couple of dorks that all these years really
> thought the "request lines" drove the radio station.

ARE YOU CALLING ME A DORK? READ! I clearly said IT HELPS! When did I say it actually DROVE the station?

Jack is Just an excuse to leave a computer running with no one there, and that's it!

Cheaper and cheaper and cheaper...

Read the Buffalo board! Jack Buffalo (WBUF) should have the FCC invistigate their ignorance toward their so called EBS.

Although there's no such thing as an emergency in Buffalo NY really, it's still the basic fact that thier idea of playing what they want is to say "this has been a test" for over an hour!!!!!!

Like I said before, Infinity is not professional enough to be in the radio business anymore. I don't care how small the market is, (#52 at last check) You just don't do that!<P ID="signature">______________
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