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Jackie Gleason Was An All-Night DJ?

Overnight DJ shows were fairly rare at the time I think. Even the big stations generally signed-off at 1 or 2AM
back then. Reviewing some old radio schedules the only Pittsburgh station that appears to have done this
during this time was WWSW, with a program they called "Club 1500" (they were at 1500 on the dial back then).
They were the smallest and lowest powered station here at the time. So obviously they tried harder.
 
One of Arthur Godfrey's earliest jobs was as an all-night DJ in the late 1930's on Washington's WSJV (later WTOP and now WFED), a 50,000-watt station heard up and down the East Coast at night (but not audible more than about 50 miles west of Washington).

WSJV was probably the only all-night station in the market at the time.

A little more than two decades later, a young Sam Donaldson (according to his memoir Hold On Mr. President!) was an all-night DJ on the same station (by that time WTOP) before moving on to that station's news department.
 
Godfrey was actually a MORNING DRIVE host at CBS O&O WJSV (later WTOP) in Washington from 1934 to 1948...his show "The Sundial" started at 6:30 AM and went until the start of the network schedule at 9 AM. The last six years he was simulcast on CBS' New York City O&O WCBS-AM, then dropped his morning duties in both cities to concentrate on his two weekly CBS-TV network prime time shows (Talent Scouts, and Arthur Godfrey And His Friends). However he kept his hand in radio with a late-morning talk show on the CBS Radio Network from 10 to 11 AM ET every weekday. That lasted from 1948 to 1972.

It's possible he did some graveyard shift duty on his last job before joining CBS, at Washington's WMAL (where he did announcing all over the schedule before getting canned for his sarcastic humor and occasional double entendres).
 
Gleason was a major insomniac who could go days without sleep. I remember Larry King talking about Gleason calling him when he did an all-night show in Miami.
 
FRR said:
landtuna said:
He says he was. In 1939. No station ID but a hilarious gag version of this "secret" on an early 50's version of "I've Got A Secret" with Garry Moore.

http://www.yourememberthat.com/media/6870/Jackie_Gleason_on_Ive_Got_A_Secret/#.UElZACJftIw

Get a taste of what classic TV was all about. :D

Isn't is amazing to look at this clip and see how much of it would either be illegal today or politically incorrect. Sad commentary on our current times

Uh...or a sad commentary on the 50s. Don't get me wrong - it's a very funny clip and Gleason is great. But he makes fun of the beautiful women on his "panel" - assigning them professional careers that women would not have likely held in those times - the implication being that they can't be beautiful and smart at the same time. Actually, 2 of the 3 ask clever questions, and seem very bright, though it's entirely possible that the questions were scripted ahead of time.

Another thing worth noting is the smoking. The show was sponsored by Winston, so Gary Moore was probably instructed to always have a cigarette burning in his hand. I notice that he never seems to take a puff. Gleason, on the other hand, was a lifetime smoker, and you can see him taking long drags on his coffin nail multiple times. Notice that Moore gives him a carton of Winstons as a "prize."

The best line from the regular panel was Harry Morgan asking Gleason, "was this before or after you were funny?"
 
FRR said:
landtuna said:
He says he was. In 1939. No station ID but a hilarious gag version of this "secret" on an early 50's version of "I've Got A Secret" with Garry Moore.

http://www.yourememberthat.com/media/6870/Jackie_Gleason_on_Ive_Got_A_Secret/#.UElZACJftIw

Get a taste of what classic TV was all about. :D

Isn't is amazing to look at this clip and see how much of it would either be illegal today or politically incorrect. Sad commentary on our current times

Uh...or a sad commentary on the 50s. Don't get me wrong - it's a very funny clip and Gleason is great. But he makes fun of the beautiful women on his "panel" - assigning them professional careers that women would not have likely held in those times - the implication being that they can't be beautiful and smart at the same time. Actually, 2 of the 3 ask clever questions, and seem very bright, though it's entirely possible that the questions were scripted ahead of time.

Another thing worth noting is the smoking. The show was sponsored by Winston, so Gary Moore was probably instructed to always have a cigarette burning in his hand. I notice that he never seems to take a puff. Gleason, on the other hand, was a lifetime smoker, and you can see him taking long drags on his coffin nail multiple times. Notice that Moore gives him a carton of Winstons as a "prize."

The best line from the regular panel was Harry Morgan asking Gleason, "was this before or after you were funny?"
 
Lkeller said:
Uh...or a sad commentary on the 50s. Don't get me wrong - it's a very funny clip and Gleason is great. But he makes fun of the beautiful women on his "panel" - assigning them professional careers that women would not have likely held in those times - the implication being that they can't be beautiful and smart at the same time. Actually, 2 of the 3 ask clever questions, and seem very bright, though it's entirely possible that the questions were scripted ahead of time.

Another thing worth noting is the smoking. The show was sponsored by Winston, so Gary Moore was probably instructed to always have a cigarette burning in his hand. I notice that he never seems to take a puff. Gleason, on the other hand, was a lifetime smoker, and you can see him taking long drags on his coffin nail multiple times. Notice that Moore gives him a carton of Winstons as a "prize."

I thought Gleason was making fun of the panelists because they were obviously very beautiful women (kind of like we think of beauty queens). It didn't come across to me that he was making fun of them on a personal level.

And yes on the smoking but that was also true in the movies of the day. I can remember feeling sick to my stomach trying to watch an old 40's or 50's movie where all the actors were constantly smoking.

I think of my navy radio shack days and remember that most of the guys didn't smoke but those of us who did must have made life miserable for the others as the space was so small. Interestingly (or not) my two closest buddies, and non-smokers, from that radio shack gang are both now dead while I continue chugging on (although I quit smoking at the tender age of 33).

Lkeller said:
The best line from the regular panel was Harry Morgan asking Gleason, "was this before or after you were funny?"

It was Henry Morgan. Harry Morgan's (M*A*S*H and many other shows) given name was also Henry but he had to change it because there was a well-known 'Henry' already in showbiz.

Anyway, Henry Morgan was like George Gobel. Very quiet until he unleashed a zinger that brought the house down. It seems a lot of those old shows were unscripted and that is what made them so much fun to watch. It's pretty clear Morgan zinged Gleason with that one.
 
Yes - I meant "Henry." I do know the difference. Jeez - you keep correcting me. Can I hire you as my editor? ;D

I also quit smoking in my 30s - about 35. I couldn't walk up a flight of stairs without wheezing. Now I'm 60, and not exactly a gym enthusiast - but I can walk for a few miles and breathe just fine.

No - I don't think Gleason was personally insulting those beautiful young women - they were just props in his comedy bit. Nevertheless, the jokes were somewhat demeaning to women.

I've heardd people complaining about how politically incorrect The Honeymooners was with the oft-repeated lines "Bang-Zoom" and "Do you wanna go to the moon, Alice?." But I don't take offense at those supposedly "violent" lines. Ralph was a big blustery talker, and if you'll notice, he would never think of actually laying a hand on Alice. Also, Alice was usually right, and Ralph was the idiot.
 
Lkeller said:
I've heardd people complaining about how politically incorrect The Honeymooners was with the oft-repeated lines "Bang-Zoom" and "Do you wanna go to the moon, Alice?." But I don't take offense at those supposedly "violent" lines. Ralph was a big blustery talker, and if you'll notice, he would never think of actually laying a hand on Alice. Also, Alice was usually right, and Ralph was the idiot.

My wife refuses to watch "The Honeymooners" because of all the yelling but that was a large part of what was funny. Ralph berates his wife, Alice, his mother-in-law and even Norton but when faced with someone who won't take it he gets sheepish and backs down. That everyone gets the best of him is the humor. That Alice could consistently back down someone who was at least three times larger was funny.

BTW, I saw an old cartoon on the Net a few days ago after Neil Armstrong died. I'm happy to report they found Alice up there. ;D
 
A side note I heard Ronald Reagan was a sports announcer for baseball. As for Gleason.....Robert Klein said when he first met Gleason he told him how great he was and Gleason completely ignored him then walked away. Gleason had lots of talent but probably a few chips on his shoulder. Interesting watching the American Scene how he makes fun of his weight and made fun of midgets employed in many skits. I wonder if he really loved Miami Beach so much. He was such a good actor it is not easy to sort out the facts.
 
stevations said:
A side note I heard Ronald Reagan was a sports announcer for baseball. As for Gleason.....Robert Klein said when he first met Gleason he told him how great he was and Gleason completely ignored him then walked away. Gleason had lots of talent but probably a few chips on his shoulder. Interesting watching the American Scene how he makes fun of his weight and made fun of midgets employed in many skits. I wonder if he really loved Miami Beach so much. He was such a good actor it is not easy to sort out the facts.

I remember a great old Reagan film (perhaps his first) where he plays newscaster at a radio station and he gets in trouble because he begins exposing dirt on local politicians. Those politicians put pressure on the station manager to fire him. Reagan refuses to go, pointing out that "I have a contract", so they begin assigning him all the crappiest jobs in the station in an effort to get him to quit. (he has to sign the station off at 2AM and be back at 6 for a breakfast program, etc.). One of his crap jobs is the roving host of a "youth report" (which he does while carrying a refrigerator sized "mobile transmitter" on his back). During a live broadcast he inadvertently picks up and broadcasts evidence of the crooked doings that are underway. Wish I could remember the title of this flick.
 
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