wow what happened here.station sounds great.best processed station i have heard in years with their new omnia 5ex..guess Jackson does not cuddle to well with those yankee boys...i know jackson is heavy urban and has a good classic rocker, but why jack is off is puzzling to me..
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Jack's off in Jackson MS
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DonRevert
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> wow what happened here.station sounds great.best processed
> station i have heard in years with their new omnia
> 5ex..guess Jackson does not cuddle to well with those yankee
> boys...i know jackson is heavy urban and has a good classic
> rocker, but why jack is off is puzzling to me..
Off? I'm assuming you mean that the ratings are down, right?
Remember that Backyard lost their PD and had to find a replacement during this period (of the ratings). That couldn't have helped their focus.
> station i have heard in years with their new omnia
> 5ex..guess Jackson does not cuddle to well with those yankee
> boys...i know jackson is heavy urban and has a good classic
> rocker, but why jack is off is puzzling to me..
Off? I'm assuming you mean that the ratings are down, right?
Remember that Backyard lost their PD and had to find a replacement during this period (of the ratings). That couldn't have helped their focus.
> > wow what happened here.station sounds great.best processed
>
> > station i have heard in years with their new omnia
> > 5ex..guess Jackson does not cuddle to well with those
> yankee
> > boys...i know jackson is heavy urban and has a good
> classic
> > rocker, but why jack is off is puzzling to me..
>
> Off? I'm assuming you mean that the ratings are down, right?
>
>
> Remember that Backyard lost their PD and had to find a
> replacement during this period (of the ratings). That
> couldn't have helped their focus.
> yep i meant the numbers were off.and backyard is not real pleased.i thought they were being consulted on this format..hope they find a fix, i really like the station, but also wonder if time will prove it was just a fad..
>
> > station i have heard in years with their new omnia
> > 5ex..guess Jackson does not cuddle to well with those
> yankee
> > boys...i know jackson is heavy urban and has a good
> classic
> > rocker, but why jack is off is puzzling to me..
>
> Off? I'm assuming you mean that the ratings are down, right?
>
>
> Remember that Backyard lost their PD and had to find a
> replacement during this period (of the ratings). That
> couldn't have helped their focus.
> yep i meant the numbers were off.and backyard is not real pleased.i thought they were being consulted on this format..hope they find a fix, i really like the station, but also wonder if time will prove it was just a fad..
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DonRevert
Guest
A friend applied for the job at WWJK and his understanding was that Jackson did not have a full consulting deal with the JACK guys.
> but also wonder if time will prove it was just a fad..>
There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone come back to reality. The format will be gone in less than two years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who like it, it's just terrible for radio.
There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone come back to reality. The format will be gone in less than two years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who like it, it's just terrible for radio.
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DonRevert
Guest
> It's nice to see someone come back to reality. The format will be gone in
> less than two years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who like
> it, it's just terrible for radio.
OK, now stay up on the soapbox and explain to the class _why_ it's "bad radio" and "just terrible for radio".
> less than two years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who like
> it, it's just terrible for radio.
OK, now stay up on the soapbox and explain to the class _why_ it's "bad radio" and "just terrible for radio".
Only Time Will Tell
> > but also wonder if time will prove it was just a fad..>
>
> There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone come
> back to reality. The format will be gone in less than two
> years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who like
> it, it's just terrible for radio.
>
I see you are anti-Jack. You can't make predictions now. Give it at least 3 or 4 books, then we will see if this is a "fad format". The whole 6-12 months thing was completely incorrect.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > but also wonder if time will prove it was just a fad..>
>
> There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone come
> back to reality. The format will be gone in less than two
> years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who like
> it, it's just terrible for radio.
>
I see you are anti-Jack. You can't make predictions now. Give it at least 3 or 4 books, then we will see if this is a "fad format". The whole 6-12 months thing was completely incorrect.<P ID="signature">______________
freewebs.com/radiostuffandnews</P>
Re: Only Time Will Tell
Anti-Jack? I'm against stupidity running rampant in radio. If that means "anti-jack" then I guess I am.
I make predictions based on what I know. What I don't know I don't make a call on. I'm usually correct. If more people were sure of themselves and KNEW what they were doing this ridiculous nonsense wouldn't exist. Cocky? Sure, everything I've "called" is searchable here including the numbers I believed a station that has flipped would bring. I don't find too many people very accepting of my calls because most of them don't understand what it is they're supposed to be doing in radio so I understand. The sad part is it's most of the guru's making these stupid moves and avoiding formats that make money.
> > > but also wonder if time will prove it was just a fad..>
> >
> > There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone come
>
> > back to reality. The format will be gone in less than two
> > years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who like
>
> > it, it's just terrible for radio.
> >
>
> I see you are anti-Jack. You can't make predictions now.
> Give it at least 3 or 4 books, then we will see if this is a
> "fad format". The whole 6-12 months thing was completely
> incorrect.
>
Anti-Jack? I'm against stupidity running rampant in radio. If that means "anti-jack" then I guess I am.
I make predictions based on what I know. What I don't know I don't make a call on. I'm usually correct. If more people were sure of themselves and KNEW what they were doing this ridiculous nonsense wouldn't exist. Cocky? Sure, everything I've "called" is searchable here including the numbers I believed a station that has flipped would bring. I don't find too many people very accepting of my calls because most of them don't understand what it is they're supposed to be doing in radio so I understand. The sad part is it's most of the guru's making these stupid moves and avoiding formats that make money.
> > > but also wonder if time will prove it was just a fad..>
> >
> > There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone come
>
> > back to reality. The format will be gone in less than two
> > years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who like
>
> > it, it's just terrible for radio.
> >
>
> I see you are anti-Jack. You can't make predictions now.
> Give it at least 3 or 4 books, then we will see if this is a
> "fad format". The whole 6-12 months thing was completely
> incorrect.
>
Let us re-examine radio's past rants on internet radio:
Jukebox
No Talent
Just A Bunch Of Songs
Badly Programmed Basement DJs.
Sounds like Jack. But it's OK because "professionals" are doing it? More reason to never listen to a word that comes out of sheep's mouth.
The "anti" format is terrible. It has no cohesion. It has no rhyme, no reason, the flows are terrible. C&C Music Factory into Bread? Are you kidding me? Any person can do their own Jack on their own IPOD. There are formats in radio because people go to a station that plays their favorite MUSICAL STYLE. The segues, the ridiculous overbearing era/musical style clashes are far too broad to sustain the radio station's life.
Or how about this reason:
People don't want a Jukebox; they don't want a station that has no talent, they don't want a station that just plays a bunch of songs at random, they don't want some station that is badly programed by some wanna-be basement DJ.
Those aren't my words, those are the words and the jist of comments made by lack-a-visionaries like Smilin' Jeff Smulyan, Mel "Shoeshine Boy" Karmazin and the rest of the Einstein's who've been nailing radio's coffin shut for the last 7 years. Thanks to their lack of vision millions of people would rather buy high tech equipment or PAY to listen to music on a new fangled tuner in their car (or portable sat unit). It's their lack of vision that had radio bleeding like a civ.
But I don't have to worry any longer. After a very successful career in radio I can freely say what I want, It's not like it's my job or career they're shortening.
> > It's nice to see someone come back to reality. The format
> will be gone in
> > less than two years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to
> the few who like
> > it, it's just terrible for radio.
>
> OK, now stay up on the soapbox and explain to the class
> _why_ it's "bad radio" and "just terrible for radio".
>
Jukebox
No Talent
Just A Bunch Of Songs
Badly Programmed Basement DJs.
Sounds like Jack. But it's OK because "professionals" are doing it? More reason to never listen to a word that comes out of sheep's mouth.
The "anti" format is terrible. It has no cohesion. It has no rhyme, no reason, the flows are terrible. C&C Music Factory into Bread? Are you kidding me? Any person can do their own Jack on their own IPOD. There are formats in radio because people go to a station that plays their favorite MUSICAL STYLE. The segues, the ridiculous overbearing era/musical style clashes are far too broad to sustain the radio station's life.
Or how about this reason:
People don't want a Jukebox; they don't want a station that has no talent, they don't want a station that just plays a bunch of songs at random, they don't want some station that is badly programed by some wanna-be basement DJ.
Those aren't my words, those are the words and the jist of comments made by lack-a-visionaries like Smilin' Jeff Smulyan, Mel "Shoeshine Boy" Karmazin and the rest of the Einstein's who've been nailing radio's coffin shut for the last 7 years. Thanks to their lack of vision millions of people would rather buy high tech equipment or PAY to listen to music on a new fangled tuner in their car (or portable sat unit). It's their lack of vision that had radio bleeding like a civ.
But I don't have to worry any longer. After a very successful career in radio I can freely say what I want, It's not like it's my job or career they're shortening.
> > It's nice to see someone come back to reality. The format
> will be gone in
> > less than two years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to
> the few who like
> > it, it's just terrible for radio.
>
> OK, now stay up on the soapbox and explain to the class
> _why_ it's "bad radio" and "just terrible for radio".
>
Re: Only Time Will Tell
What will kill variety hits is all the really bad knock-off's that are coming on the air.
> Anti-Jack? I'm against stupidity running rampant in radio.
> If that means "anti-jack" then I guess I am.
>
> I make predictions based on what I know. What I don't know I
> don't make a call on. I'm usually correct. If more people
> were sure of themselves and KNEW what they were doing this
> ridiculous nonsense wouldn't exist. Cocky? Sure, everything
> I've "called" is searchable here including the numbers I
> believed a station that has flipped would bring. I don't
> find too many people very accepting of my calls because
> most of them don't understand what it is they're supposed to
> be doing in radio so I understand. The sad part is it's most
> of the guru's making these stupid moves and avoiding formats
> that make money.
>
>
>
> > > > but also wonder if time will prove it was just a
> fad..>
> > >
> > > There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone
> come
> >
> > > back to reality. The format will be gone in less than
> two
> > > years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who
> like
> >
> > > it, it's just terrible for radio.
> > >
> >
> > I see you are anti-Jack. You can't make predictions now.
> > Give it at least 3 or 4 books, then we will see if this is
> a
> > "fad format". The whole 6-12 months thing was completely
> > incorrect.
> >
>
What will kill variety hits is all the really bad knock-off's that are coming on the air.
> Anti-Jack? I'm against stupidity running rampant in radio.
> If that means "anti-jack" then I guess I am.
>
> I make predictions based on what I know. What I don't know I
> don't make a call on. I'm usually correct. If more people
> were sure of themselves and KNEW what they were doing this
> ridiculous nonsense wouldn't exist. Cocky? Sure, everything
> I've "called" is searchable here including the numbers I
> believed a station that has flipped would bring. I don't
> find too many people very accepting of my calls because
> most of them don't understand what it is they're supposed to
> be doing in radio so I understand. The sad part is it's most
> of the guru's making these stupid moves and avoiding formats
> that make money.
>
>
>
> > > > but also wonder if time will prove it was just a
> fad..>
> > >
> > > There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone
> come
> >
> > > back to reality. The format will be gone in less than
> two
> > > years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who
> like
> >
> > > it, it's just terrible for radio.
> > >
> >
> > I see you are anti-Jack. You can't make predictions now.
> > Give it at least 3 or 4 books, then we will see if this is
> a
> > "fad format". The whole 6-12 months thing was completely
> > incorrect.
> >
>
Re: Only Time Will Tell
Yep, nothing like a bunch of ship hitting the iceberg the Titanic did
> What will kill variety hits is all the really bad
> knock-off's that are coming on the air.
>
> > Anti-Jack? I'm against stupidity running rampant in radio.
>
> > If that means "anti-jack" then I guess I am.
> >
> > I make predictions based on what I know. What I don't know
> I
> > don't make a call on. I'm usually correct. If more people
> > were sure of themselves and KNEW what they were doing this
>
> > ridiculous nonsense wouldn't exist. Cocky? Sure,
> everything
> > I've "called" is searchable here including the numbers I
> > believed a station that has flipped would bring. I don't
> > find too many people very accepting of my calls because
> > most of them don't understand what it is they're supposed
> to
> > be doing in radio so I understand. The sad part is it's
> most
> > of the guru's making these stupid moves and avoiding
> formats
> > that make money.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > but also wonder if time will prove it was just a
> > fad..>
> > > >
> > > > There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone
> > come
> > >
> > > > back to reality. The format will be gone in less than
> > two
> > > > years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who
> > like
> > >
> > > > it, it's just terrible for radio.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I see you are anti-Jack. You can't make predictions now.
>
> > > Give it at least 3 or 4 books, then we will see if this
> is
> > a
> > > "fad format". The whole 6-12 months thing was completely
>
> > > incorrect.
> > >
> >
>
Yep, nothing like a bunch of ship hitting the iceberg the Titanic did
> What will kill variety hits is all the really bad
> knock-off's that are coming on the air.
>
> > Anti-Jack? I'm against stupidity running rampant in radio.
>
> > If that means "anti-jack" then I guess I am.
> >
> > I make predictions based on what I know. What I don't know
> I
> > don't make a call on. I'm usually correct. If more people
> > were sure of themselves and KNEW what they were doing this
>
> > ridiculous nonsense wouldn't exist. Cocky? Sure,
> everything
> > I've "called" is searchable here including the numbers I
> > believed a station that has flipped would bring. I don't
> > find too many people very accepting of my calls because
> > most of them don't understand what it is they're supposed
> to
> > be doing in radio so I understand. The sad part is it's
> most
> > of the guru's making these stupid moves and avoiding
> formats
> > that make money.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > but also wonder if time will prove it was just a
> > fad..>
> > > >
> > > > There ya go! Now you got it. It's nice to see someone
> > come
> > >
> > > > back to reality. The format will be gone in less than
> > two
> > > > years. Bad idea, bad radio. No offense to the few who
> > like
> > >
> > > > it, it's just terrible for radio.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I see you are anti-Jack. You can't make predictions now.
>
> > > Give it at least 3 or 4 books, then we will see if this
> is
> > a
> > > "fad format". The whole 6-12 months thing was completely
>
> > > incorrect.
> > >
> >
>
D
DonRevert
Guest
That's what I thought you'd say. It sounds like you've been drinking the KoolAid at Mike McVay's place.
"People" translates to "RADIO people" in your little diatribe, since you have no research to relate to your statement. JACK is a listener format (no DJs, lots of music) and most rank and file radio types DON'T GET IT.
IF the answer to counter JACK in one's market was to tighten up playlists, add more "wacky" DJs and fine tune your little niche...you might have something.
However, radio's answer has been to try to clone JACK or at the very least open up the playlists again. Doesn't sound like they found things to be too off the mark.
"People" translates to "RADIO people" in your little diatribe, since you have no research to relate to your statement. JACK is a listener format (no DJs, lots of music) and most rank and file radio types DON'T GET IT.
IF the answer to counter JACK in one's market was to tighten up playlists, add more "wacky" DJs and fine tune your little niche...you might have something.
However, radio's answer has been to try to clone JACK or at the very least open up the playlists again. Doesn't sound like they found things to be too off the mark.
Most rank and file radio people are presenting the format. Jack is not a listener format. It's a knee-jerk reaction to radio attempting to stop the bleeding. It's an attempt to portray itself as a new technology piece that radio perceives to be threatening it's very existance. The problem is ONE radio station cannot program the variety of music I, like, or the next guy, or that lady, or that man or this guy. It's a variety but not everyone's variety it's RADIO's idea of variety. It won't last long and when you're drowning in your own Kool-Aid I'll still throw you a life preserver.
I don't get BAD PROGRAMMING being masqueraded as a format. To counter Jack?Simple add a format that makes sense. Wacky DJs? No thanks. Tighten up playlist? How about not following up an aerobics song with something similar to The Mike Curb Congregation.
Radio was against everything that Jack is (five years ago) and now it's their salvation. What a bunch of mindless, visionless phonies. The format is a joke and won't last past 2006, unless they prolong the agony with low billing and low ratings which WILL OCCUR, in some markets, it already is.
> IF the answer to counter JACK in one's market was to tighten
> up playlists, add more "wacky" DJs and fine tune your little
> niche...you might have something.
>
> However, radio's answer has been to try to clone JACK or at
> the very least open up the playlists again. Doesn't sound
> like they found things to be too off the mark.
>
I don't get BAD PROGRAMMING being masqueraded as a format. To counter Jack?Simple add a format that makes sense. Wacky DJs? No thanks. Tighten up playlist? How about not following up an aerobics song with something similar to The Mike Curb Congregation.
Radio was against everything that Jack is (five years ago) and now it's their salvation. What a bunch of mindless, visionless phonies. The format is a joke and won't last past 2006, unless they prolong the agony with low billing and low ratings which WILL OCCUR, in some markets, it already is.
> IF the answer to counter JACK in one's market was to tighten
> up playlists, add more "wacky" DJs and fine tune your little
> niche...you might have something.
>
> However, radio's answer has been to try to clone JACK or at
> the very least open up the playlists again. Doesn't sound
> like they found things to be too off the mark.
>
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