Jamie Jack and Stench out!

[Big E]

Just got a call from a friend about the news, and sure enough its up on All Access already. At least CC waited till after Christmas.

 

[SuperRadioFan]

Just saw the e-mail from Don Barrett confirming this. I say GOOD RIDDANCE, Jamie, don't let the door hit you on the way out!!! :-* ;D ;D

Remember all the protest when they took the morning show off briefly last year??

LOL!!

 

[malibudude]

Jamie, Frosty, and Frank should never have been hired. Jamie should have remained in Denver. I was against the move since the days of deCastro. It should have been Ryan and Lisa but, they had always been grooming Ryan for KIIS so it is as it should have been. Jamie's schtick was over before she ever left Denver.

 

[mostb1]

This all has to do with the sale of Star 98.7 per FCC grandfather regulations (and all those who keep posting about the Apple Valley stations you don't know what your talking about). Star will now be on auto-pilot until it is sold off. This is exactly what CCU did in San Diego prior to the sale of it's 3 Mexican FM's to Finest City Broadcasting (a CCU alumn controlled company...some may say "sham" company) - cut the stations personel down to ZERO. Do I see a sale of Star to a "Smoggiest City Broadcasting" - with some current CCU management person at the helm of it - coming soon...you bet.

 

[john77]

I had a feeling they would be gone eventually... they were the "dead weight" that the listeners detested... Hopefully they will hire a competent morning crew... If they are sold off as mostb1 suggests, that would be a shame, given how well the station has been trending.

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

To the guy insisting that Star has to be sold. Sure, they have to sell something here, if not an Apple Valley station,then who? Star maybe? I think its unlikely, but we are dealing with a rapidly changing and trimming Clear Channel.

Do you know the rules Most1? I count 8 stations (excluding AV). KYSR, KBIG, KOST, KIIS and KHHT on FM and KLAC, KTLK and KFI on AM. These alone without the AV stations are below the limit (old and new) rules...Unless the Univision station ownership comes into play. Does CC have a stake in Entravision or Univision anymore? David?

 

[mostb1]

To the guy insisting that Star has to be sold. Sure, they have to sell something here, if not an Apple Valley station,then who? Star maybe? I think its unlikely, but we are dealing with a rapidly changing and trimming Clear Channel.

Do you know the rules Most1? I count 8 stations (excluding AV). KYSR, KBIG, KOST, KIIS and KHHT on FM and KLAC, KTLK and KFI on AM. These alone without the AV stations are below the limit (old and new) rules...Unless the Univision station ownership comes into play. Does CC have a stake in Entravision or Univision anymore? David?

The real question here is DO YOU know the rules and how they apply to the Clear Channel sale? Obviously not. David already spoke his peace on this deal and basically he got it right with his first post http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,57662.0.html
Do you think I believe you or a radio analyst that Inside Radio, a Clear Channel company, posted ITSELF that the grandfathered stations would go for $700,000,000 or more (or be traded). Clear Channel isn't going to fight this. They want the deal done.
Maybe you better find a friend in Burbank that you can tell you what is going on.

Star is being sold. I expect 1150 AM is too. Just not sure if the format will be moved to 570 AM or not.

Getting rid of Jamie's fat paycheck is just part of readying this station to be put on the block. A deal that is quite likely already set in stone, knowing this company.

 

[mostb1]

Some good stuff over on Jamie White's board over her firing. It's under Today's Show Topics. http://jamiewhite.com/chitchat.html

 

[mostb1]

And where will their listeners go? This is excellent news for Bob Moore I expect...

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

David's analysis does NOT address whether the Antelope Valley stations are counted as part of LA and then would make LA a "Grandfathered Market".

His scenerios make sense, however and I do respect his opinion as I do yours (sans the tone). Certainly, an underperforming station serving most of Los Angeles has more value than the most popular Antelope Valley station. I'm just not sure they are going to be forced to sell anything specific as long as they comply.

I'm not attacking you, nor am I going to question your knowledge of anything.

As far as 570 and 1150 goes. Interesting question, i gues it would depend on billing. I would vote for the 1150 format to move over to the better facility at 570 although thats more of a personal bias on my part.

 

[davideduardo]

David's analysis does NOT address whether the Antelope Valley stations are counted as part of LA and then would make LA a "Grandfathered Market".

Since the FCC consideres markets to now be the Arbitron defined markets, rather than the ones constructed based on signal overlaps, the Antilope Valley is part of the LA MSA, as the survey are is all of LA and Orange counties.

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

David's analysis does NOT address whether the Antelope Valley stations are counted as part of LA and then would make LA a "Grandfathered Market".

Since the FCC consideres markets to now be the Arbitron defined markets, rather than the ones constructed based on signal overlaps, the Antilope Valley is part of the LA MSA, as the survey are is all of LA and Orange counties.

Thank you David, that is what I thought. So why would Clear Channel dump an LA station over one in the Antelope Valley since they've trargeted the small markets in the first place.

 

[art955wdhf]

Just saw the e-mail from Don Barrett confirming this. I say GOOD RIDDANCE, Jamie, don't let the door hit you on the way out!!! :-* ;D ;D

Remember all the protest when they took the morning show off briefly last year??

LOL!!

Well she should be happy about this. It now gives her the opportunity to quit radio altogether, and focus on being a full time Mom and Wife. Hopefully, her Husband will have better results with her than Star. Because she Sucked. I'm surprised she lasted this long.
Bill Handle is laughing is a$$ off. And buying champine for everyone at CC.

 

[mostb1]

David's analysis does NOT address whether the Antelope Valley stations are counted as part of LA and then would make LA a "Grandfathered Market".

Since the FCC consideres markets to now be the Arbitron defined markets, rather than the ones constructed based on signal overlaps, the Antilope Valley is part of the LA MSA, as the survey are is all of LA and Orange counties.

Thank you David, that is what I thought. So why would Clear Channel dump an LA station over one in the Antelope Valley since they've trargeted the small markets in the first place.

Maybe you can fill us in on your knowledge of this deal. You're also welcome to comment on why a top radio analyst with knowledge of the deal has pegged a very high price on grandfathered stations that will be sold. A story, once again, that was published by InsideRadio.com, a Clear Channel company. You can fill us in on what is going on in Burbank.

David can also fill us in on why he made the statements he did in ths thread http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,57662.0.html since he seems to be avoiding the question.

 

[davideduardo]

Maybe you can fill us in on your knowledge of this deal. You're also welcome to comment on why a top radio analyst with knowledge of the deal has pegged a very high price on grandfathered stations that will be sold. A story, once again, that was published by InsideRadio.com, a Clear Channel company. You can fill us in on what is going on in Burbank.

Inside Radio's editor, Tom Taylor, reported that a CCU executive had stated that the spin-offs in the grandfathered markets could produce an aggregate of $700 milliion to $1 billion, if I remmeber correctly. Inside Radio does not analyze the industry... it is a newsletter and reports on what others do and say.

Just a couple of major market stations would produce $1 billion. A NY or LA cash flower is worth in the $300 to $400 million range. In a market like San Francisco, a mid-performing SF FM is worth over $100 million. And it appears that the spins there will be the San Jose signals, which are still worth in excess of $100 million... just from one market!

Even in markets 10 to 20, a nice cash flower can be worth over $50 million.

So, it seems likely that CCU will meet the LA market requirements by selling the Lancaster stations, since the potential of the LA ones is soooooo much greater. They still will get the billion or so from the aggregate of the other spin-offs.

David can also fill us in on why he made the statements he did in ths thread http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,57662.0.html since he seems to be avoiding the question.

At first, I thought that there was an indication that an LA signal would go... then Radio Researcher pointed out the Lancaster ones "counted" towards the market total, and I agree that his assumption is probably the correct one, not mine.

 

[david]

Good Riddance - Watch Star's Fortunes Improve

This all has to do with the sale of Star 98.7 per FCC grandfather regulations (and all those who keep posting about the Apple Valley stations you don't know what your talking about). Star will now be on auto-pilot until it is sold off. This is exactly what CCU did in San Diego prior to the sale of it's 3 Mexican FM's to Finest City Broadcasting (a CCU alumn controlled company...some may say "sham" company) - cut the stations personel down to ZERO. Do I see a sale of Star to a "Smoggiest City Broadcasting" - with some current CCU management person at the helm of it - coming soon...you bet.

Good Riddance. As I have posted previously, Jamie and her co-horts over the years have been horrid. The shows did not provide good flow into the rest of the day. Jamie into Lisa Fox - how different can you be. With a good compelling AM Drive, Star can really start to brighten its fortunes.

If as Glenn suggests, Roy Laughlin or others will ultimately acquire 98.7, they will probably (hopefully) show the format a lot of love, similar to what is happening at 91X in America's Finest City (San Diego).

 

[mostb1]

Re: Good Riddance - Watch Star's Fortunes Improve

This all has to do with the sale of Star 98.7 per FCC grandfather regulations (and all those who keep posting about the Apple Valley stations you don't know what your talking about). Star will now be on auto-pilot until it is sold off. This is exactly what CCU did in San Diego prior to the sale of it's 3 Mexican FM's to Finest City Broadcasting (a CCU alumn controlled company...some may say "sham" company) - cut the stations personel down to ZERO. Do I see a sale of Star to a "Smoggiest City Broadcasting" - with some current CCU management person at the helm of it - coming soon...you bet.

Good Riddance. As I have posted previously, Jamie and her co-horts over the years have been horrid. The shows did not provide good flow into the rest of the day. Jamie into Lisa Fox - how different can you be. With a good compelling AM Drive, Star can really start to brighten its fortunes.

If as Glenn suggests, Roy Laughlin or others will ultimately acquire 98.7, they will probably (hopefully) show the format a lot of love, similar to what is happening at 91X in America's Finest City (San Diego).

Who is Roy Laughlin? Nobody at Clear Channel knows that name.

 

[ChannelFlipper]

Of course they know it, but they are trying to forget it, and doing a pretty nice job of it too.

If Laugh-in was so brilliant, he would have solved the Star problem a long-time ago when he had years to do so.

I must say I do miss his shtick though. It was quite entertaining.

 

[Radiogeek500]

Is he even still running KDAY?

That is a pretty damn good sounding station, and I don't say that about a Roy Laughlin backed station!

 

[OldGringoFan]

Bill Handel must be smiling about this in his anger management class.