Jan Jeffries Blows it AGAIN!

[radiogroupie]

In what suddenly has become a much closer race, Cumulus' Marconi nominee WFMS was down 10.1-7.9, compared to an 8.7 in Spring '09. Emmis' WLHK jumped 3.2-5.5. Emmis Indianapolis OM Bob Richards, who previously programmed WFMS, tells Country Aircheck, "Looks like we gained some ground in the Spring book. Among adults 25-54 we’re less than two shares behind ‘FMS, and if you look at 25-49 we beat ‘em by almost half a share."

Way to go JAN JEFFRIES another example of Jan running off good talent

 

[BobOnTheJob]

Amazing what getting rid of that ancient music Hank used to mix in can do. Wonder how many ball games they are saddled with this season? Nothing stops a winning streak like a sportscast forcing almost 100% of the audience to go back to WFMS. Until Emmis can get over this obsession with putting sports on Hank, WFMS isn't going to lose their title as THE Country station regardless of how great Hank sounds the rest of the time. Even the former WFMS staff can't roll that rock uphill.

 

[PTBoardOp94]

Well, Hank will be featuring 20 Indianapolis Colts games, 12 IU football games, and 30-some IU basketball games again this year.

Wouldn't be shocked if Emmis tried to move some of those commitments to B105.7 next year since they're the new ratings dog in the Emmis facility.

 

[MikeStandardsFromIndiana]

Well, Hank will be featuring 20 Indianapolis Colts games, 12 IU football games, and 30-some IU basketball games again this year.

Wouldn't be shocked if Emmis tried to move some of those commitments to B105.7 next year since they're the new ratings dog in the Emmis facility.

Pt i thought the IU Football games sans premptions by other events on 1070 the fan. that IU Football games were still on 1070. the only team to move off of the 1070 freq was the pacers moving to 93.1 due to Butler basketball moving into 1070. so unless IU football moving over to fm is leading to clearing of Butler football. i think IU Football will still be on 1070 this fall

 

[radioho]

FMS has been playing all the OLD OLD OLD classics on weekend nights - not what contemporary country fans want on a weekend night - CLICK!

 

[ChiefEngineer]

FMS has been playing all the OLD OLD OLD classics on weekend nights - not what contemporary country fans want on a weekend night - CLICK!

This is what the old plan used to be when competition came to town. More classic country. Maybe it's too late. I've bgeen blowing the Hank horn for a few years. WFMS isn't what is was pre Cumulost.

 

[N_D_Radioguy]

FMS has been playing all the OLD OLD OLD classics on weekend nights - not what contemporary country fans want on a weekend night - CLICK!

For like three hours on a Saturday night -- when all the young folk are out anyway.

 

[radioho]

FMS has been playing all the OLD OLD OLD classics on weekend nights - not what contemporary country fans want on a weekend night - CLICK!

For like three hours on a Saturday night -- when all the young folk are out anyway.

When/where do people listen to radio on weekend nights? In their cars or at home. Young people do not go to bars anymore with DUI laws and such. They are still getting together, but at home. And the radio is ALWAYS going to be on. I have lots of younger relatives and they listen to country, but not turned up at their cookout with classic country, they will listen to hank.

 

[BobOnTheJob]

FMS has been playing all the OLD OLD OLD classics on weekend nights - not what contemporary country fans want on a weekend night - CLICK!

For like three hours on a Saturday night -- when all the young folk are out anyway.

When/where do people listen to radio on weekend nights? In their cars or at home. Young people do not go to bars anymore with DUI laws and such. They are still getting together, but at home. And the radio is ALWAYS going to be on. I have lots of younger relatives and they listen to country, but not turned up at their cookout with classic country, they will listen to hank.

Unless they're in Johnson County, in which case they may sample the younger based "KORN Country" 100.3 from Edinburgh.

 

[dfwrunner]

FMS has been playing all the OLD OLD OLD classics on weekend nights - not what contemporary country fans want on a weekend night - CLICK!

For like three hours on a Saturday night -- when all the young folk are out anyway.

When/where do people listen to radio on weekend nights? In their cars or at home. Young people do not go to bars anymore with DUI laws and such. They are still getting together, but at home. And the radio is ALWAYS going to be on. I have lots of younger relatives and they listen to country, but not turned up at their cookout with classic country, they will listen to hank.

Unless they're in Johnson County, in which case they may sample the younger based "KORN Country" 100.3 from Edinburgh.

The imaging of some radio stations in Indiana, I swear, may as well call it "corny country"

 

[ChiefEngineer]

Bob Shippe was always kinda corny. WJCD FM had country part of the day. Mornings were "pop" defined in someone's mind. Mid days relaxing music (defied format), then an hour of a dead guy with his daughter playing piano then "country" until 7pm.

 

[dfwrunner]

Bob Shippe was always kinda corny. WJCD FM had country part of the day. Mornings were "pop" defined in someone's mind. Mid days relaxing music (defied format), then an hour of a dead guy with his daughter playing piano then "country" until 7pm.

I remember it well The Duck was the other one I had in mind...

 

[BobOnTheJob]

FMS has been playing all the OLD OLD OLD classics on weekend nights - not what contemporary country fans want on a weekend night - CLICK!

For like three hours on a Saturday night -- when all the young folk are out anyway.

When/where do people listen to radio on weekend nights? In their cars or at home. Young people do not go to bars anymore with DUI laws and such. They are still getting together, but at home. And the radio is ALWAYS going to be on. I have lots of younger relatives and they listen to country, but not turned up at their cookout with classic country, they will listen to hank.

Unless they're in Johnson County, in which case they may sample the younger based "KORN Country" 100.3 from Edinburgh.

The imaging of some radio stations in Indiana, I swear, may as well call it "corny country"

There's a liner on KORN that say's "we're not just another corny country station, we are THE corny country station".

 

[dfwrunner]

FMS has been playing all the OLD OLD OLD classics on weekend nights - not what contemporary country fans want on a weekend night - CLICK!

For like three hours on a Saturday night -- when all the young folk are out anyway.

When/where do people listen to radio on weekend nights? In their cars or at home. Young people do not go to bars anymore with DUI laws and such. They are still getting together, but at home. And the radio is ALWAYS going to be on. I have lots of younger relatives and they listen to country, but not turned up at their cookout with classic country, they will listen to hank.

Unless they're in Johnson County, in which case they may sample the younger based "KORN Country" 100.3 from Edinburgh.

The imaging of some radio stations in Indiana, I swear, may as well call it "corny country"

There's a liner on KORN that say's "we're not just another corny country station, we are THE corny country station".

That sounds erally disparaging to country music...

 

[ChiefEngineer]

What's really Korny were the spots that aired on WKKG promoting Corn Country. I think they ran even after the station went on-air. One listening should have realized it was Reising buying air time for his stations.

Equally funny with Paul Kenny playing Take this Job and Shove it --- 13 TIMES! on WKKG.

 

[Mid West Clubber]

These Indy country station are attrocious, thats why I listen to WKKG or KORN, or Hi 99 when in a country mood.. Bring the Bear Back. I want one of these stations to carry after midnight with blair Garner, I get 92.7 a little bit, and hi 99 carries it, but I want it on a local.

 

[ChiefEngineer]

They still don't play dance mixes.

I can't compare WFMS with WKKG. WFMS still sounds better than WKKG. Not as corny made up and has better talent.

Corn uses corny as part of it's schtick. Presented better than WKKG. Not as much etc that comes with live talent wanting to yack and be "wonderfu;."

WKKG vs KORN is a station doing all the full service etc things and doing so much of it KORN can fit in just by playing music.

If every other mom and pop wasn't doing satellite I'd say WKKG might do better with no jocks and someone inserting news based on the mis use of talent

 

[Mid West Clubber]

After Midnight used to play Dance/Club Mixes of Country songs, and so did the Bear. Bring back The bear and QKC.

 

[ChiefEngineer]

I liked the dance remixes. Lee Ann Rimes music all had them. Brooks and Dunn and others too. WFMS never touched them. The Bear did sometimes. The line dancing places still have them on up beta songs.

WKKG is too good for those. They want to be WFMS quality. They don't have the grade of talent from years ago.

On one side all the local things are what keeps them alive. On the other side the way they do the local things is what degrades them.

One of the few local stations with a lot of live things but they are automated at night I believe. The floods in Columbus never aired live programming first. Korn, known for music, was on air before WKKG because music isn't important when people are getting washed away.

WQKC will never be back. At WJCD any employee had to go with Shippe to Mrs. Baker, by then in bed all the time to get her approval. Discernment test. The place had been run down. Baker's daughter, back from a failed opera career, residing in Seymour ran the place.

One day the ambulance was called. The former opera singer claimed to be having a heart attack. At night you have a night cap. EVERY afternoon she had a noon cap, drinking orange juice and vodka in the AM studio while supervising the operation. By the time her symptoms were in full progress she was loaded. Lying on the floor near death, everyone wondered about her life expiring there next to the vintage AM console radios and the ill tuned upright piano. The paramedics discovered they had no access to her chest because her bra was too tight, way too tight". Cuts to the upper straps and the belt around the bottom loosed her heart attack. She simply could not breathe because her bra was several sizes too small. There, I digress.

Similarly, WFMS has an incurable cancer. Looks good in some surface areas but the body is dead and dying. If they keep it alive a few days great. Not out in public as before, that would require employees. Just a pittance of it's former self but it was great when it was on top. Recent numbers show WIBC FM clearly in the lead. PPM will further degrade it when the numbers are out.

 

[bigtime]

Probably true that WFMS isn't out much lately, but very few stations are out like they used to be. That requires promotion people and/or enough on-air people to make it possible. Radio stations used to do stunts/events/promotions that got attention regularly. That doesn't happen much now, but it's understandable. Owners are are still making money, but not the amount they are used to, so operating budgets have been slashed. The problem wouldn't be so bad without all the debt most operators have. It's happening with the whole country; too many people owing too much money.