DX season is starting in like 4 months.would it be possible to DX a Japanese Station on a TV Sound Radio or a recevier that could go all the way to 76 Mhz
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Although not impossible, not very likely from the mainland. I knew a Hawaiian DXer, no longer with us now, that was able to bag an Osaka Japan FM (I forget the frequency)....that in itself had to have been triple-hop sporadic-E....I myself have yet to hear/see double-hop.
It does help now, that no full power analog channel 5's are around....and those that are digital are very few.
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It does help now, that no full power analog channel 5's are around....and those that are digital are very few.
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Double-hop in itself is very rare and i've only experienced it twice, both from the same station. I got Primera FM (88.1) from the Dominican Republic once around 1:30 in the afternoon then again around 5:30.
Multi-hop Es to Japan would not be impossible, but would be extremely rare and most likely a once in a lifetime experience. There was a video on Youtube of a guy from Ireland who received Bangor, ME via Es. I can't find the video anywhere. I got chills just watching the video, I can't imagine what that guy felt like!
Multi-hop Es to Japan would not be impossible, but would be extremely rare and most likely a once in a lifetime experience. There was a video on Youtube of a guy from Ireland who received Bangor, ME via Es. I can't find the video anywhere. I got chills just watching the video, I can't imagine what that guy felt like!
I would not rule it out...There is a 10,800 mile record for TV DX. That's approaching halfway around the earth! TV DX may be considered tougher than FM Radio DX. see this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_and_FM_DX and check out the links too. The wide bandwidth of a TV signal coupled with the challenge of capturing the video and audio carriers from such a great distance would be an accomplishment in itself, versus the relatively narrow bandwidth of an FM broadcast signal. Rare is definitely the word here.
A setup that includes monitoring beacons on VHF frequencies, a decent low-noise location and receiving system (antenna, coaxial cable and receiver) away from sources of interference, be these on-band, spurious, man-made or atmospheric interference and something to alert the DXer, such as a VHF scanner set to a beacon frequency with its squelch set to some predetermined threshold that 'opens' the speaker when the beacon is strong enough and indicates potential DX reception in that direction. Knowledge of Propagation, how weather affects FM radio reception and how to interpret propagation forecasts a bonus. And of course, a means of recording the skip even when the DXer is not actively listening, so as to not miss the historicDX catch! One must have enormous patience for something like this! (Not me)
p.s. that is a great recording of the 2,710 mile FM DX Maine to the U.K.!
A setup that includes monitoring beacons on VHF frequencies, a decent low-noise location and receiving system (antenna, coaxial cable and receiver) away from sources of interference, be these on-band, spurious, man-made or atmospheric interference and something to alert the DXer, such as a VHF scanner set to a beacon frequency with its squelch set to some predetermined threshold that 'opens' the speaker when the beacon is strong enough and indicates potential DX reception in that direction. Knowledge of Propagation, how weather affects FM radio reception and how to interpret propagation forecasts a bonus. And of course, a means of recording the skip even when the DXer is not actively listening, so as to not miss the historicDX catch! One must have enormous patience for something like this! (Not me)
p.s. that is a great recording of the 2,710 mile FM DX Maine to the U.K.!
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Lawppy said:Double-hop in itself is very rare and i've only experienced it twice, both from the same station. I got Primera FM (88.1) from the Dominican Republic once around 1:30 in the afternoon then again around 5:30.
Multi-hop Es to Japan would not be impossible, but would be extremely rare and most likely a once in a lifetime experience. There was a video on Youtube of a guy from Ireland who received Bangor, ME via Es. I can't find the video anywhere. I got chills just watching the video, I can't imagine what that guy felt like!
I believe that the DXer is Paul Logan. IIRC, later on, it was he who topped that catch by monitoring 90.7 Montgomery AL! I have not heard the reception; however, he received a QSL letter from the station----I believe that the one who wrote the letter was the voice he heard.
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Lawppy said:There was a video on Youtube of a guy from Ireland, who received Bangor, ME via Es. I can't find the video anywhere. I got chills just watching the video, I can't imagine what that guy felt like!
Ireland's Paul Logan must be the fellow you're refering to, Lawpuppy, he's got some recordings posted here ~> http://band2dx.webs.com/tafm03.htm
Note that his furthest catch is Watertown NY's WFRY (Froggy...a local for me). I've read else where that he held (holds) the world record, by bagging it??? However, I've also read of an Australian who's been bagging FM & TV signals from Europe.
~BG
This is what Paul Logan wrote after making that catch:
Well I never thought it would happen. And while it was happening, I still didn't really believe, but tonight from probably 1845 UTC up past 2000 UTC there were FM conditions to North America.
The first sign was of course all those TV carriers getting higher and higher right up to A5 with me. But then around 1845 there were brief blasts of North American speech on 88.5 interspersed amongst the huge European opening which was in full swing. I just didn't believe my ears. A station came up with a reference to New York and then talk about comedy. (I thought it must be AFN Europe) Then there was a french language station on 88.5 for ages - maybe 20 minutes and very strong which was giving hints at its source being outside Europe but I didn't want to get too excited - and then while on the phone to David Hamilton the yl dj said Radio Canada and I couldn't believe my ears. And David cursed me when I realised the tape wasnt running!!!.
Next was light music on 88.5 coming up to 1900 followed by a full ID on the hour from WHCF Bangor, Maine. (I literally started to shake!). Then the next one up was 92.9 and a good hour's signal from CLKE Bathurst NB. (Tim was treated to live ads down the phone!). I have tons of this one on tape, and called the station and talked with a disbelieving dj!
The others heard were CBC English on 88.5 - two candidates - CBME-FM Montreal, and the much more likely CBVG-FM from Gaspe Quebec (just north from Gloucester county NB and hence CLKE). The French CBC station on 88.5 may well be CBAF in Moncton NB.
Finally 97.1 was up and both David and I heard a fisheries programme with John Murphy - this is CBTB Baie Verte NFLD with 5.58 kW power. There were references to Fortune Bay in NFLD and talk of fishing markers which can be checked up on. I have this and most of the other receptions on tape.
Other freqs which were throwing up likely signals were:
88.7 - countryish music early in the opening while Maine was there
95.9 - pop music
97.5 - pop music - likely VOCM St John's NL.
99.3 - possibly french language (battling against local Lyric FM) - 3 listed in Quebec of which CBV-6 in Malbaie QC is the favorite.
92.9 - CBTR Roddickton, Newfoundland, at 2019 with a North American announcer saying "that's 7119 in the Saint Johns area". This is a 2kW station carrying CBC from St John's, NL.
Well I never thought it would happen. And while it was happening, I still didn't really believe, but tonight from probably 1845 UTC up past 2000 UTC there were FM conditions to North America.
The first sign was of course all those TV carriers getting higher and higher right up to A5 with me. But then around 1845 there were brief blasts of North American speech on 88.5 interspersed amongst the huge European opening which was in full swing. I just didn't believe my ears. A station came up with a reference to New York and then talk about comedy. (I thought it must be AFN Europe) Then there was a french language station on 88.5 for ages - maybe 20 minutes and very strong which was giving hints at its source being outside Europe but I didn't want to get too excited - and then while on the phone to David Hamilton the yl dj said Radio Canada and I couldn't believe my ears. And David cursed me when I realised the tape wasnt running!!!.
Next was light music on 88.5 coming up to 1900 followed by a full ID on the hour from WHCF Bangor, Maine. (I literally started to shake!). Then the next one up was 92.9 and a good hour's signal from CLKE Bathurst NB. (Tim was treated to live ads down the phone!). I have tons of this one on tape, and called the station and talked with a disbelieving dj!
The others heard were CBC English on 88.5 - two candidates - CBME-FM Montreal, and the much more likely CBVG-FM from Gaspe Quebec (just north from Gloucester county NB and hence CLKE). The French CBC station on 88.5 may well be CBAF in Moncton NB.
Finally 97.1 was up and both David and I heard a fisheries programme with John Murphy - this is CBTB Baie Verte NFLD with 5.58 kW power. There were references to Fortune Bay in NFLD and talk of fishing markers which can be checked up on. I have this and most of the other receptions on tape.
Other freqs which were throwing up likely signals were:
88.7 - countryish music early in the opening while Maine was there
95.9 - pop music
97.5 - pop music - likely VOCM St John's NL.
99.3 - possibly french language (battling against local Lyric FM) - 3 listed in Quebec of which CBV-6 in Malbaie QC is the favorite.
92.9 - CBTR Roddickton, Newfoundland, at 2019 with a North American announcer saying "that's 7119 in the Saint Johns area". This is a 2kW station carrying CBC from St John's, NL.
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