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JASON ALDEAN Dirt Road Anthem WTF???!!!

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buttonpusher812

What is the piece of rap garbage. ??? I really don't think I have heard a more ridiculous thing in a long time. Lets skip this and just play 50cent or Eminem if we are going to rap.

I know good music is in the ear of the beholder but really.
 
This was originally done last year by Colt Ford and Brantley Gilbert, it actually sounded good. Not sure what Aldean is doing with it but putting people to sleep.
 
Does anyone remember Convoy? Not much different here. How about Big Bad John. In country, they're called "recitations," and they go back to the 1920s. Mel Tillis did them. Alan Jackson has done it. This song gets the biggest reaction from Jason's fans at his shows. They love it. He's just giving his fans what they want. This guy is a superstar.

I was watching The Biography Channel last night, and they repeated the one they did on Willie Nelson. The thing about Willie is he broke the rules. There are new artists today who are every bit the outlaws that Willie and Waylon were in the 70s. They sound different. They combine elements from other genres, just as Waylon & Willie did. But they're also distinctly country. Jason Aldean is one of those people. He is a rebel, an outlaw, and 30 years from now he'll be seen as a visionary of country music who enlarged and extended its appeal the way Willie & Waylon did. And like them, his audience is young and will be around for a while.
 
I believe that people who object to this song hear it in the context of rap music as they know it. Let me ask you - suppose you had never heard rap music as it is commonly performed? Imagine you had never in your life heard a rap song. Would you still object to this rhythmic spoken word without melody done over music?

As the Big A has posted, there is a long tradition of this in country. In addition to his examples, let me toss in Red Sovine's "Phantom 309." Jerry Reed's "Amos Moses." The most vivid example that comes to mind is Johnny Cash's "A Boy Named Sue." It's almost exclusively rhyming, rhythmic talk! Jason Aldean's cadence is different and is clearly taken from rap (which shows just how mainstream rap has become), but it is not so dramatically different to be regarded as "garbage."

Bravo to Jason (and his producers) who are pushing the envelope and innovating within the country genre. Jason Aldean - along with the Zac Brown Band, Lady Antebellum, Luke Bryan, the Jane Dear Girls and others are the reasons why country is such an exciting, vibrant music style and current-based radio format.

I love the country music of the Mel Tillis, Connie Smith, David Houston, Johnny Paycheck, George and Tammy era. And I love the country music of today's chart-toppers. It's all terrific music!

Nick Summers
 
"Amos Moses" has a melody, albeit an unconventional one. It's not a "recitation."

Country and rap have been sort of mingling for decades now, off and on. I remember the Bellamy Brothers did "Country Rap" back in the late 80s/early 90s. But I think you're on to something, Nick. The objections people might have to "Dirt Road Anthem" probably come from the rap segment's cadence. But the original didn't really "sound country" at all...at least the instrumentation in Jason's version makes an attempt.

At least it ain't Lady Gaga.
 
O.K., the Jason Aldean is a piece of crap, no matter how much you want to claim it compares with Convoy and Big Bad John, but the reason I was moved to log in after months is to let "WPPCProductions " know that Tammy Wynette was the 1st Lady, but she was not, and is not the Queen of Country Music. That title belongs to Kitty Wells, and it's not simply my opinion or title I have given her.

Tammy is fantastic, but it disturbs me when anyone other than Kitty Wells is said to be the Queen of Country Music. Please check your Country Music history.
 
This song is OK with the chorus, but the rapping isn't that good. I guess the record companies want every country farmer listener to get a "sample" of rap from this song, admitting they'll listen to 50 Cent or some other rapper later if they move to the big city.

-crainbebo
 
I noticed nobody has thrown stones at "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels. -a song that would be considered "rap" by many today. I like the Aldean single-and am happy somebody had the guts to release it. He is the real deal.
 
Holstead said:
I noticed nobody has thrown stones at "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels. -a song that would be considered "rap" by many today.
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Yeah, Snoop Dogg talk about this one all the time. He's thinking of doing a remake. ::) ???
 
TheBigA said:
Does anyone remember Convoy? Not much different here. How about Big Bad John. In country, they're called "recitations," and they go back to the 1920s. Mel Tillis did them. Alan Jackson has done it. This song gets the biggest reaction from Jason's fans at his shows. They love it. He's just giving his fans what they want. This guy is a superstar.

I was watching The Biography Channel last night, and they repeated the one they did on Willie Nelson. The thing about Willie is he broke the rules. There are new artists today who are every bit the outlaws that Willie and Waylon were in the 70s. They sound different. They combine elements from other genres, just as Waylon & Willie did. But they're also distinctly country. Jason Aldean is one of those people. He is a rebel, an outlaw, and 30 years from now he'll be seen as a visionary of country music who enlarged and extended its appeal the way Willie & Waylon did. And like them, his audience is young and will be around for a while.
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Mel Tillis wrote songs containing rather large recitations for other singers. He said if he were to record them himself, the record would be about three feet across.
 
Holstead said:
I noticed nobody has thrown stones at "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels. -a song that would be considered "rap" by many today. I like the Aldean single-and am happy somebody had the guts to release it. He is the real deal.
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Wow .I never even thought of that song.I do like "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" it's a classic.Also I probably mention Tammy Wynnette's outing with KLF's "Justified and Ancient (Stand By The JAMs)" in 1991.I like that tune too_Ok Let me go back on a comment on a earlier post saying Tammy was the Queen of country music.I should of said.In the 1970's My generation. she was the lead with Loretta Lynn and Dottie West.I do like Kitty Wells.I did not dethroned her.
 
Holstead said:
I noticed nobody has thrown stones at "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels. -a song that would be considered "rap" by many today. I like the Aldean single-and am happy somebody had the guts to release it. He is the real deal.
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CDB-DWDTG considered rap? maybe by the official webster definition of the term rap, but not by the urban/black hip hop rip rap musical definition.

mixing noisy urban rap music production, into country music songs, is like marrying your own sister, and having kids. yep, it turns your stomach, and should!

if this rapstuff aint weeded out soon from our beloved country music, i fear where the country music gene pool will take us, and sound like in the coming years(tommorrows country). at what point will we just say, "country aint it country". yipes, were part way there. its amazing some of the candy coated crack music that the record companies, and a few conglomerate radio companies, feed the young demographic masses, who have little country musical education, or grasp of its history and heritage....
 
This song is popular in the south. On 103.7 WSOC in Charlotte, NC this song is 2nd most popular according to WSOC's yes.com page. In other markets such as Detroit's WYCD its ranked 12th on their list.
 
WPPCProductions said:
Holstead said:
I noticed nobody has thrown stones at "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" by Charlie Daniels. -a song that would be considered "rap" by many today. I like the Aldean single-and am happy somebody had the guts to release it. He is the real deal.
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Wow .I never even thought of that song.I do like "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" it's a classic.Also I probably mention Tammy Wynnette's outing with KLF's "Justified and Ancient (Stand By The JAMs)" in 1991.I like that tune too_Ok Let me go back on a comment on a earlier post saying Tammy was the Queen of country music.I should of said.In the 1970's My generation. she was the lead with Loretta Lynn and Dottie West.I do like Kitty Wells.I did not dethroned her.
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http://youtu.be/RPjggN-KByI
Don't hear her rapping. Plus KLF was on a whole other level from traditional hip hop at the time. I was rap mixed with soul, dance and world music. Plus, Tammy is not rapping in this song.

Charlie Daniels' spoken song in no ways represents or sounds anything like rap with the inflections and syllabic emphasis on words and, of course, the twangy sense of the verses.

Jason Aldean's rap, however, does fit the rhyme scheme, inflections and a less twangy sound of hip hop today. I think that is why this is upsetting most die hard country fans. Brace yourself, however, for a possible surge of other artists trying this and just be patient as this storm will blow over. IMO, I don't see hip hop and country joining forces as it sounds more like a novelty joke. It will be like watching Larry The Cable Guy trying to rap with 50 Cent.
 
sdh483 said:
Charlie Daniels' spoken song in no ways represents or sounds anything like rap with the inflections and syllabic emphasis on words and, of course, the twangy sense of the verses.
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It's also almost 40 years old. Rap then, whether it was done by The Last Poets ("The Revolution Will Be Televised") or by the Sugar Hill Gang (Rapper's Delight") doesn't sound as it does today. Music keeps changing and evolving. That's what keeps it alive and vital. So to directly compare Devil with Dirt Road Anthem isn't exactly fair.

The point is that we can place our own biases, prejudices, and definitions on music, and try to place music in certain categories, but the general public doesn't care. They like what they like, regardless of category. Radio's job is to provide that, also regardless of category. If purists don't like it, too bad. Aldean is speaking to a rural country audience who understand his country-based lyrics, mentioning George Jones, in the same way he identified Johnny Cash in a previous hit. The point of music isn't to mimmick the past, but to relate to an audience. This song does that, and it's why it's a hit.
 
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