Jax talk radio triplecast?*

[TommyR]

Tonight I heard Andy Johnson on 105.7 and 92.5, but not 1320. In the minute or two I listened, Andy plugged other programs on the two FM stations. It sounds as if they will join/break at certain times like 1010XL and 105.3FM.

Credit gchasse on the heads up about 2 weeks ago that this was going down.

Does anyone have any news or further info on this? Is 1320 part of the Andy Johnson talk radio family anymore? Is there anywhere I can view the entire schedule(s)?


*Bonus points if you "get" the subject line: another infamous smörgåsbord of programming options.

 

[preferprivacy]

As I believe somone on this board predicted, as Andy's contract is fulfilled on AM 1320 (and his "harem" of related clients/shows),
it will depart AM 1320

Being on multiple frequencies is only mildly interesting, but the quality of it all is horrible.

1 - without at 100% simulcast they cannot show an aggregate audience (can be done in Maximizer, but I doubt any of these stations have it)

2 - making listener guess who is on which station on which day doesn't expand your reach, it only confuses listeners.

3- heard whomever was hosting on FM 105.7 today, and it was mindless chat without any foundation of solid info,
any unique approach to the news of the day, and desperate for callers to keep it going.

YIKES!

WOKV has nothign to worry about.....

Now, I believe a quality alternative will do OK (after all Jax is still a conservative town) but Andy Johnson ain't it.

-PP

 

[Parttimer]

3- heard whomever was hosting on FM 105.7 today, and it was mindless chat without any foundation of solid info,
any unique approach to the news of the day, and desperate for callers to keep it going.

Sounds like the news/talk version of Greg Larsen....

 

[Nate Wesley]

*Bonus points if you "get" the subject line: another infamous smörgåsbord of programming options.

NBC's "Olympic Triplecast", its ill-fated attempt in 1992 to make people pay to watch the Summer Olympics?

 

[TommyR]

*Bonus points if you "get" the subject line: another infamous smörgåsbord of programming options.

NBC's "Olympic Triplecast", its ill-fated attempt in 1992 to make people pay to watch the Summer Olympics?

Of course it is!

Hey, I just found this site...at the moment it's largely an under-filled template.

http://www.radiofreejax.com

 

[smedge2006]

Andy Johnson is to be congratulated for his persistence. But the station has "Jacksonville talk radio disease" --the best brokers are not always the best programmers. I would urge him to hire someone who could oversee the on-air and web content and develop some kind of structure.

I wonder what the creditors' efforts to take over the Tama Group will have on this.

 

[gchasse]

This morning I turned the radio on to hear 105.5 to listen to oldies and found Stan the Liberal Unioin Man on the air. It looks like they have taken over 105.5.

Goodness, I went from listening to my new favorite radio station to being in the twilight zone.

Does anyone have any idea of what is going on?

 

[JAWilson]

It must have been interference depending where you are at in the metro. It was coming in fine for me down here in St. Augustine. I will have to say its the best thing that I think has happened to Jacksonville radio this year with The True Oldies Channel and the simulcast of 1010XL on the FM.

 

[John FL]

I agree with Prefer Privacy's prior comments and certainly WOKV has nothing to worry about if this is supposed to be "competition."

There is no room for sloppiness and this 105.7/105.5 attempt at whatever it is they are trying to do is just a mess. I only catch these stations in the car for a few minutes here and there. And just in that short amount of time, the errors I hear tell me those in charge of this are very ill prepared and have no clue.

Just yesterday as I was getting out of church in the noon hour, Beatle Brunch to my surprise was on 105.7 and not 105.5. As I mentioned before I'm a huge fan of that show and Joe Johnson and was glad to hear it on FM. As I was about to raise the volume, bam, it was gone and some Obama special feature came on right smack in the middle of Joe talking. If this was the first goof, I'd let it pass. But in almost the times I've given a listen, sometimes Scott Shannon of True Oldies comes on and announces the 105.5 calls in the middle of conversation and talks about oldies. Sometimes oldies just pop in and out.

This whole thing is risky to begin with. Even in very liberal markets, liberal talk doesn't get the kind of numbers the conservative guys like Rush and Sean get. I don't get how those who act like they are in it to make $$$, screw up royally. I've come to the conclusion that especially with 105.5, this frequency equates to nothing more than format du jour. A joke if the attempt is to get an audience.

And while I'm at it, WOKV's election coverage was phenomenal and their new station promos welcomming listeners to the station are right on the money. There are very few bright spots in Jacksonville radio but thank goodness for WOKV. I love seeing hard work and dedication pay off.

 

[radioguybroadcasting]

I agree with Prefer Privacy's prior comments and certainly WOKV has nothing to worry about if this is supposed to be "competition."

There is no room for sloppiness and this 105.7/105.5 attempt at whatever it is they are trying to do is just a mess. I only catch these stations in the car for a few minutes here and there. And just in that short amount of time, the errors I hear tell me those in charge of this are very ill prepared and have no clue.

Just yesterday as I was getting out of church in the noon hour, Beatle Brunch to my surprise was on 105.7 and not 105.5. As I mentioned before I'm a huge fan of that show and Joe Johnson and was glad to hear it on FM. As I was about to raise the volume, bam, it was gone and some Obama special feature came on right smack in the middle of Joe talking. If this was the first goof, I'd let it pass. But in almost the times I've given a listen, sometimes Scott Shannon of True Oldies comes on and announces the 105.5 calls in the middle of conversation and talks about oldies. Sometimes oldies just pop in and out.

This whole thing is risky to begin with. Even in very liberal markets, liberal talk doesn't get the kind of numbers the conservative guys like Rush and Sean get. I don't get how those who act like they are in it to make $$$, screw up royally. I've come to the conclusion that especially with 105.5, this frequency equates to nothing more than format du jour. A joke if the attempt is to get an audience.

And while I'm at it, WOKV's election coverage was phenomenal and their new station promos welcomming listeners to the station are right on the money. There are very few bright spots in Jacksonville radio but thank goodness for WOKV. I love seeing hard work and dedication pay off.

it sounds like 105.5/105.7 have automation problems that no one at the stations seems to care about.

 

[preferprivacy]

Today I can hardly hear them - and I was in central Duval county (going on I-95 at University Blvd)

I faintly heard CBS news on both 105.5 and 105.7 - further confusing which station is carrying the
"Radio Free Jacksonville"

Just sad - but not unexpected.

 

[gchasse]

They need to pick a format on 105.5, and I think the oldies format would do fine if they added some local DJs. The liberal talk format is a dud, but to take 105.5 and do this to it, I almost wonder if these guys are trying to see how low you can go with ratings. Sometime oldies, sometimes liberal talk, tune in to find out. It could be either at any time.

Whoever is running this thing is as dumb as a bag of hammers.

 

[jmtillery]

Today I can hardly hear them - and I was in central Duval county (going on I-95 at University Blvd)

I faintly heard CBS news on both 105.5 and 105.7 - further confusing which station is carrying the
"Radio Free Jacksonville"

Just sad - but not unexpected.

PF,

WJFS-FM 105.5 is carrying CBS Radio News? Did any other Jacksonville station carry CBS before 105.5? When did WHJX drop Urban? I realize Tama Broadcasting is facing bankruptcy, but my experience has been that a station needs to pick a format and stick to it. No station is going to realize overnight success with any format considering the radio oversaturation of virtually every radio market today. There are very few radio voids remaining in the radio market today, so I realize it is oftentimes difficult to find the right format for any particular station. I agree that Jacksonville can benefit greatly by having an FM News-Talk station in the market so long as it is presented correctly. On the other hand, it's going to be a tough sell counter programming against established WOKV.

Mark Tillery,
Ocala, Florida
[email protected]

 

[TommyR]

WOKV (definitely in the 600/100.7 phase, probably much longer) carried CBS News. So did WRXJ 930 (the oldies station that preceded the sports format). We're talking late 80's-early 90's here. Not sure about any time sooner.

I've been told that WOKV chose to affiliate with CBS since the number one television station in Jacksonville was affiliated with CBS. Perceived strength, or something like that.

 

[preferprivacy]

The Ocala poster - Jax has n/t on FM, WOKV-FM 106.5

On the network news - WBOB-AM 1320 is doing ABC - and WOKV-AM/FM promotes Fox (but I rarely hear a newscast other than late night or weekends)

I recall that WOKV went first to CDD after they dumped CBS (when Cox bought the stations?)

Would it be fair to say that network news is a dying business - for the most part - the only stations that
actually carry the product are O&O's and station with weak ratings?

Which (if any) successful n/t station actually air network newscasts in prime time (other than O&O's - and Paul Harvey doesn't count as network news).

 

[jmtillery]

The Ocala poster - Jax has n/t on FM, WOKV-FM 106.5

On the network news - WBOB-AM 1320 is doing ABC - and WOKV-AM/FM promotes Fox (but I rarely hear a newscast other than late night or weekends)

I recall that WOKV went first to CDD after they dumped CBS (when Cox bought the stations?)

Would it be fair to say that network news is a dying business - for the most part - the only stations that
actually carry the product are O&O's and station with weak ratings?

Which (if any) successful n/t station actually air network newscasts in prime time (other than O&O's - and Paul Harvey doesn't count as network news).

Ah yes, I had forgotten about WOKV-FM 106.5. Isn't that a simulcast operation, or does the FM have any seperate programming during the day? I also remember WOKV started out on 600 as a music station (Pop Country, then later oldies) before flipping to News-Talk. At some point in the 90s Cox acquired the former WPDQ 690 facilities and moved WOKV programming and call letters to the bigger 690 frequency. The WPDQ call letters moved to 600 and they unsucessfully attempted to recapture the "heyday" of the orginal WPDQ 600 as an adult standards station. They also aired sports programming as WBWL "The Ball" before selling AM 600 to Radio Disney. The 106.5 frequency has seen its share of call letter and format flips over the years. I don't believe that station covers the entire market, does it?

Also, what ever happened to WEXI-AM 1280 which had become gospel formatted WSVE? I had heard the station went dark and the license was cancelled. I haven't been successful in locating any information from the FCC webpage on that station.

Mark Tillery,
Ocala, Florida
[email protected]

 

[radioguybroadcasting]

The Ocala poster - Jax has n/t on FM, WOKV-FM 106.5

On the network news - WBOB-AM 1320 is doing ABC - and WOKV-AM/FM promotes Fox (but I rarely hear a newscast other than late night or weekends)

I recall that WOKV went first to CDD after they dumped CBS (when Cox bought the stations?)

Would it be fair to say that network news is a dying business - for the most part - the only stations that
actually carry the product are O&O's and station with weak ratings?

Which (if any) successful n/t station actually air network newscasts in prime time (other than O&O's - and Paul Harvey doesn't count as network news).

Ah yes, I had forgotten about WOKV-FM 106.5. Isn't that a simulcast operation, or does the FM have any seperate programming during the day? I also remember WOKV started out on 600 as a music station (Pop Country, then later oldies) before flipping to News-Talk. At some point in the 90s Cox acquired the former WPDQ 690 facilities and moved WOKV programming and call letters to the bigger 690 frequency. The WPDQ call letters moved to 600 and they unsucessfully attempted to recapture the "heyday" of the orginal WPDQ 600 as an adult standards station. They also aired sports programming as WBWL "The Ball" before selling AM 600 to Radio Disney. The 106.5 frequency has seen its share of call letter and format flips over the years. I don't believe that station covers the entire market, does it?

Also, what ever happened to WEXI-AM 1280 which had become gospel formatted WSVE? I had heard the station went dark and the license was cancelled. I haven't been successful in locating any information from the FCC webpage on that station.

Mark Tillery,
Ocala, Florida
[email protected]

Bishop Willis owned WSVE.. he had the license revoked, along with several others of his across the US,

No, 106.5 doesn't cover the entire Jacksonville area, it';s only a 6KW/328 ft Class A.

 

[MN Maniac]

If Cox were to purchase WEAG-106.3-Starke, would it be possible to either:

1) Take 106.3 dark, then upgrade 106.5 to full Jax metro coverage

or

2) Take 106.5 dark, then upgrade and move 106.3 in for full Jax metro coverage?

 

[N1WVQ]

I hope not! WEAG-FM is a hometown station (simulcasting with their co-owned A.M.: WEAG/1490) & the last thing Jax needs is another station! Maybe they should improve WJXR before they bring in more out-of-towners (WSOS-FM)!

The earlier poster is right: WSVE's license was canceled along with a few others (I believe 3 others). Try going to the F.C.C.'s site & looking at the C.D.B.S., then type in "DWSVE." That may bring up information. The license was canceled because of E.A.S. & other violations at many of Willis' stations. There was a weird deal worked out with the F.C.C. as I remember. 4 stations (incl. WSVE) would have their licenses pulled. If he didn't sell one of the other stations then it & I think 5 others would have their licenses pulled as well. Then if another station wasn't sold it & a few more would have their licenses yanked. Finally he had to improve the facilities of his remaining stations & prove compliance otherwise those would have their licenses pulled as well. I think one of the other deleted stations was KVLA/1400 in Vidalia, La. & maybe WSDT/1240-Soddy Daisy, Tn..

 

[jmtillery]

If Cox were to purchase WEAG-106.3-Starke, would it be possible to either:

1) Take 106.3 dark, then upgrade 106.5 to full Jax metro coverage

or

2) Take 106.5 dark, then upgrade and move 106.3 in for full Jax metro coverage?

Even if Ben Dickerson would agree to sell WEAG-FM, it would not help WOKV-FM since there is a daisy chain of stations on 106.3 and 106.5 around the state. IF WEAG 106.3 were to go dark, WOKV-FM still has to deal with co-channel WCJX-FM 106.5 Five Points (Lake City). There's also WKBX-FM 106.3 Kingsland, Georgis, located just over the state line North of Jacksonville.

To upgrade 106.5 Jacksonville, Cox would have to acquire or move the affected stations within the daisy chain. WDUV-FM 105.5 New Port Richey was upgraded to a C1 from an A several years ago using the same method. In the case of WDUV, Jacor Communications moved WYKS Gainesville from 105.5A to 105.3 A; WKZM 105.5 A Sarasota to 104.3 A; and WWLL-FM 105.5 A Sebring to 105.7 C3. This enabled the former WGUL-FM (now WDUV) to upgrade to a C1. The same method would need to be implemented in the case of WOKV-FM if it were to increase power. After all is said and done, then the ecomomic feasability would need to be considered relating to cost in moving the affected stations vs additional potential income generated from the newer higher class FM station.

Mark Tillery,
Ocala, Florida
[email protected]