Jay Severin: Being Who He Is Was Not Enough.

[parklane]

It is a sad commentary that Jay Severin thought that who he is was not enough.

On reflection, the man who calls himself - Jay Severin - has a great deal of natural talent and intelligence whether from Harvard or some community college.

In a twist on the old Walter Mitty or perhaps Zelig, Jay Severin believed that he had to be someone other than who he is to succeed. According to what has been written he even changed his name which in itself is not uncommon in the entertainment field.

My late friend, Jerry Williams, did it but he did it when he was a musician and actor on the early days of television. So, Gerald Jacoby became - Jerry Williams and he took that easy to remember and non ethinic name to radio. But that was in the late 1940's and 50's when anti- semitism was still rampant.

Still, I see no excuse in the "enlightened" age to change ones name as we read Jay Severin did from James Severino. Obviously, if that is his correct birth name he is of Italian decent. Why should we have respected him more because he passed himself off as a white anglo-saxon protestant (WASP - if that doesn't offend some people which is not my intent). Nor should we respect him more because he may be of Italian decent...[read some of my posts on John DePetro who at least has the good sense and strong sense of himself to use his real name].

Also, Jay Severin has created this image of himself as a single man who prefers the company of multiple women. Not bad in of itself, but in fact he is reported to be a married man with several children.

All in all, the persona which this person set up is rather sad. Perhaps, it says more about us as listeners than the man who calls himself Jay Severin.

 

[morescrapple]

Think Severino must be very insecure. Very sad.


> It is a sad commentary that Jay Severin thought that who he
> is was not enough.
>
> On reflection, the man who calls himself - Jay Severin - has
> a great deal of natural talent and intelligence whether from
> Harvard or some community college.
>
> In a twist on the old Walter Mitty or perhaps Zelig, Jay
> Severin believed that he had to be someone other than who he
> is to succeed. According to what has been written he even
> changed his name which in itself is not uncommon in the
> entertainment field.
>
> My late friend, Jerry Williams, did it but he did it when he
> was a musician and actor on the early days of television.
> So, Gerald Jacoby became - Jerry Williams and he took that
> easy to remember and non ethinic name to radio. But that was
> in the late 1940's and 50's when anti- semitism was still
> rampant.
>
> Still, I see no excuse in the "enlightened" age to change
> ones name as we read Jay Severin did from James Severino.
> Obviously, if that is his correct birth name he is of
> Italian decent. Why should we have respected him more
> because he passed himself off as a white anglo-saxon
> protestant (WASP - if that doesn't offend some people which
> is not my intent). Nor should we respect him more because he
> may be of Italian decent...[read some of my posts on John
> DePetro who at least has the good sense and strong sense of
> himself to use his real name].
>
> Also, Jay Severin has created this image of himself as a
> single man who prefers the company of multiple women. Not
> bad in of itself, but in fact he is reported to be a married
> man with several children.
>
> All in all, the persona which this person set up is rather
> sad. Perhaps, it says more about us as listeners than the
> man who calls himself Jay Severin.
>

 

[Smoke]

> My late friend, Jerry Williams, did it but he did it when he
> was a musician and actor on the early days of television.
> So, Gerald Jacoby became - Jerry Williams and he took that
> easy to remember and non ethinic name to radio. But that was
> in the late 1940's and 50's when anti- semitism was still
> rampant.

That's all it comes down to, really. You're still applying the Jerry Williams standards to talk radio that is for political discussion, not the entertainment show that Jay does. Would he play a liberal if the money was right? You bet.

 

[Almo]

>
> > man who calls himself Jay Severin.
> >
>
Perhaps, it says more about us as listeners . Yeah, I'd go along with that. Which is why I've never listened: not one time. However I don't get too worked up over the name change, be it official, or not (Larry King's is). No offense but I don't think I'd want to be Jimmy Severino either, and it's not a matter of confidence, just broadcast aesthetics. The education additions and fake award, are a different matter. But for those who call themselves fans, that probably won't matter much either. Sweet dreams, Jaybird III.

 

[radiodouble]

> Still, I see no excuse in the "enlightened" age to change
> ones name as we read Jay Severin did from James Severino.

That's James Thompson Severin(o), the 3rd to you, pal.

 

[cabradio]

Let me ge this straight. You are ridiculing Jay for using a stage name, yet you have NO courage to use YOUR own name here? That's pathetic.

I can understand complaints over any deception on his part (ie his family situation, or his educational background). But now you are nitpicking...you are reaching in your attempts to discredit this guy.

Keep it to issues that matter.

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[parklane]

Rejoinder: To Cabradio

I think you missed the point of my post entirely "Cabradio".[ your own posting moniker and not your given name.]

Far from "ridiculing" Jay Severin what I was writing, in a rather sympathetic tone, was that who this gentlemen is or where he went to college wasn't enough for his own self worth.

I would respectfully ask you to reread the original post before you make a personal attack which is not only unwarranted but in violation of the rules you as a Radio-info.com Moderator posted in your "sticky" post above.

For the record, I believe my email is listed if anyone wanted to contact ma directly. Therefore, my 'nom de plume' would still direct any interested person to me.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Let me ge this straight. You are ridiculing Jay for using a
> stage name, yet you have NO courage to use YOUR own name
> here? That's pathetic.
>
> I can understand complaints over any deception on his part
> (ie his family situation, or his educational background).
> But now you are nitpicking...you are reaching in your
> attempts to discredit this guy.
>
> Keep it to issues that matter.
>

 

[raccoonradio]

> It is a sad commentary that Jay Severin thought that who he
> is was not enough.

Yes. Others, be it in entertainment, politics, or teaching, have
also padded their resumes. Some of these have claimed to have
fought in a war or attended a prestigious college but later it's
discovered they did no such thing.

Agreed on people like J. Williams--and Larry King--Anglicizing their
names in a time of anti-semitism (I would add that great songwriter
Irving Berlin, born Israel Baline).

Jim Severino should have been proud of his name...and "VB" should
go to his given name of Doug Goudie, never mind this VB stuff.
Yes, that's how we knew him from Howie Carr I guess.

> Also, Jay Severin has created this image of himself as a
> single man who prefers the company of multiple women.

Just an image...what is he, the horny Glen Quagmire of Family Guy?
Giggity-giggity-giggity! Maybe the "wife and kids" image works for
Howie but not Jay, he figures.

 

[raccoonradio]

> Let me ge this straight. You are ridiculing Jay for using a
> stage name, yet you have NO courage to use YOUR own name
> here? That's pathetic.

Well the internet encourages anonymity, or at least allows it.
You may have a point about that, and certainly other people in
broadcasting, TV, movies, etc., changed their name (or used a nom
de plume) for various reasons. Would "Tom Sawyer" still have sold
if it were by "Samuel Clemems"? Would people still see "Born on
the Fourth of July", if it starred "Tom Mapother"? And would
people buy "I Can't Be Satisfied" by that blues great
"McKinley Morganfield"?

Maybe "his real name isn't Severin" and "he broadcasts from Long Island" are
indeed trivial but the Pulitzer Prize claim sure isn't.
btw I can think of a now-famous talk show host who used a stage name as a DJ:
Jeff Christie, aka Rush Limbaugh.

 

[radiodouble]

> Perhaps, it says more about us as listeners . Yeah, I'd
> go along with that. Which is why I've never listened: not
> one time. However I don't get too worked up over the name
> change, be it official, or not (Larry King's is). No offence
> but I don't think I'd want to be Jimmy Severino either, and
> it's not a matter of confidence, just broadcast aesthetics.
> The education additions and fake award, are a different
> matter. But for those who call themselves fans, that
> probably won't matter much either. Sweet dreams, Jaybird
> III.
>

Perhaps, local media ass kissers like Dan "Big Phoney" Kennedy
and Mark Jurkowitz put Jay way up there in the first place. Everyone
bought into the myth this guy was such God's gift to talk radio.
Even Matt Mills. Now, it turns out the guy is nothing but a complete
and utter fraud. The guy has been a political consulant for much
of his life and made a living in the business of fabricating facts for
his clients. You think he'd be honest about his own achievements with a local
radio audeince which thinks he's broadcasting from Boston? It's no
big secret that Greater Media suits have no principles to employ a shady guy
who misreprents everything about him, even the fact that he's live from
NY, not Boston. Live and lying...

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/this_just_in/documents/00669439.htm

 

[cabradio]

Re: Rejoinder: To Cabradio

Let's address this issue by issue.

> I think you missed the point of my post entirely
> "Cabradio".[ your own posting moniker and not your given
> name.]

My NAME is in my signature below. And yes, it is a Stage Name. My email is in my signature below too.


> Far from "ridiculing" Jay Severin what I was writing, in a
> rather sympathetic tone, was that who this gentlemen is or
> where he went to college wasn't enough for his own self
> worth.

Your tone hardly came across as sympathetic, especially when you have been so critical of him. It did come across as insensitive and insulting. (READ: The POST came across as insensitive and insulting. I didn't say YOU were.)

> I would respectfully ask you to reread the original post
> before you make a personal attack which is not only
> unwarranted but in violation of the rules you as a
> Radio-info.com Moderator posted in your "sticky" post above.

You are saying I made a "personal attack". Interesting. Why do you suggest that? Is it because I said that your antics are pathetic? That's hardly a "personal attack". It would have been personal if I said "You are pathetic". But I didn't, so don't take WHAT I say out of context.

You have been one of the instigators here, making "slander-like" remarks and name calling. Your rope is fraying.


> For the record, I believe my email is listed if anyone
> wanted to contact ma directly. Therefore, my 'nom de plume'
> would still direct any interested person to me.

So then, there should be NO ISSUE made of Jay's use of a Stage Name. You should not have even mentioned it. If anyone wants to contact HIM, they know where he WORKS. People only have an email addy for you! And as been said many times, ANYONE can hide behind an anonymous name on the internet and make rediculous statements as you have, without any consequence to their own life, except maybe they get banned from the site. Ooh ooh ooh...boo hoo hoo.

On a somewhat related note...why do people have DBA's (doing business as)? They should be proud to just use their REAL NAME for all business transactions. Right? Why didn't Ray Crock, founder of McDonald's, just call the restaurant "Ray Crock's"? Being an ON AIR personality is also a BUSINESS. So get over the stage name already. It's entertainment. Maybe religious entertainment for some...but entertainment, none the less. And it's not like the on air personalities are trying to hide their identity. They are just trying to create a BRAND (at least in my experience...).

As far as some hosts lieing about certain acheivements, yes that's wrong, and deceptive. Unfortunately, that's part of the rat race to get to the top. Do I agree with the actions...NO. But it is up to each employer how they will handle such lies.

However, what people like you do is take REAL PEOPLE'S LIVES and RIP THEM APART. (What would you spend your time doing if everyone was honest and perfect and talented?) Maybe some talk hosts do the same to some degree...but they are in public view, for all to see and know who they are...AND THEY ARE PAID TO DO IT, because people like you continue to listen, day in and day out even if only to complain about them. People like you are NO BETTER, actually you are WORSE because you hide behind anonymity. Your BS is has officially permiated the air (it's starting to smell). Is all this an insult...maybe if you choose to take it that way. But it's also true. <P ID="signature">______________



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[parklane]

Re: Rejoinder II: To Cabradio

I really do not want to get into an argument with you which is of no interest to anyone but the two of us.

The point of this post that started this thread was one of reflection on the Jay Severin expose.

I still do not think you got that, but as someone [ Gene Burns ] once said that is why they make vanilla and chocolate ice cream.

The point, which I will state here briefly, is the following:

I wondered why Severin was so insecure as to present all these apparent falsehoods about himself to his listening audience when in fact, he has a wealth of talent and ability. Who he is should have been enough but apparently it was not.

Then again, it is not easy to see ourselves as others see us - obviously - but neither of us are "public figures" with a four hour daily talk radio programs.

Jay is a "public figure" and therefore he subjects himself to both public praise and ridicule which may in fact be the point of this website.

Let's hear what Severin has to say if anything on his program on Monday.
If he is there.

PEACE !
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> Let's address this issue by issue.
>
> > I think you missed the point of my post entirely
> > "Cabradio".[ your own posting moniker and not your given
> > name.]
>
> My NAME is in my signature below. And yes, it is a Stage
> Name. My email is in my signature below too.
>
>
> > Far from "ridiculing" Jay Severin what I was writing, in a
>
> > rather sympathetic tone, was that who this gentlemen is or
>
> > where he went to college wasn't enough for his own self
> > worth.
>
> Your tone hardly came across as sympathetic, especially when
> you have been so critical of him. It did come across as
> insensitive and insulting. (READ: The POST came across as
> insensitive and insulting. I didn't say YOU were.)
>
> > I would respectfully ask you to reread the original post
> > before you make a personal attack which is not only
> > unwarranted but in violation of the rules you as a
> > Radio-info.com Moderator posted in your "sticky" post
> above.
>
> You are saying I made a "personal attack". Interesting. Why
> do you suggest that? Is it because I said that your antics
> are pathetic? That's hardly a "personal attack". It would
> have been personal if I said "You are pathetic". But I
> didn't, so don't take WHAT I say out of context.
>
> You have been one of the instigators here, making
> "slander-like" remarks and name calling. Your rope is
> fraying.
>
>
> > For the record, I believe my email is listed if anyone
> > wanted to contact ma directly. Therefore, my 'nom de
> plume'
> > would still direct any interested person to me.
>
> So then, there should be NO ISSUE made of Jay's use of a
> Stage Name. You should not have even mentioned it. If anyone
> wants to contact HIM, they know where he WORKS. People only
> have an email addy for you! And as been said many times,
> ANYONE can hide behind an anonymous name on the internet and
> make rediculous statements as you have, without any
> consequence to their own life, except maybe they get banned
> from the site. Ooh ooh ooh...boo hoo hoo.
>
> On a somewhat related note...why do people have DBA's (doing
> business as)? They should be proud to just use their REAL
> NAME for all business transactions. Right? Why didn't Ray
> Crock, founder of McDonald's, just call the restaurant "Ray
> Crock's"? Being an ON AIR personality is also a BUSINESS. So
> get over the stage name already. It's entertainment. Maybe
> religious entertainment for some...but entertainment, none
> the less. And it's not like the on air personalities are
> trying to hide their identity. They are just trying to
> create a BRAND (at least in my experience...).
>
> As far as some hosts lieing about certain acheivements, yes
> that's wrong, and deceptive. Unfortunately, that's part of
> the rat race to get to the top. Do I agree with the
> actions...NO. But it is up to each employer how they will
> handle such lies.
>
> However, what people like you do is take REAL PEOPLE'S LIVES
> and RIP THEM APART. (What would you spend your time doing if
> everyone was honest and perfect and talented?) Maybe some
> talk hosts do the same to some degree...but they are in
> public view, for all to see and know who they are...AND THEY
> ARE PAID TO DO IT, because people like you continue to
> listen, day in and day out even if only to complain about
> them. People like you are NO BETTER, actually you are WORSE
> because you hide behind anonymity. Your BS is has officially
> permiated the air (it's starting to smell). Is all this an
> insult...maybe if you choose to take it that way. But it's
> also true.
>

 

[cabradio]

Re: Rejoinder II: To Cabradio

This website isn't here for people to trash on air personalities. There is something called Constructive Criticism. This is criticising with suggested improvements.

This site isn't here as a means to discredit on air personalities either. If a talent has not been forth right, then a discussion can ensue, however to brow beat the viewers of this site gives the impression that all you want to do is "get back" at someone for something.

Post something nice for a change. <P ID="signature">______________



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[fccfight]

Anti-Severin letter in today's Globe

Great letter in the Globe today SEVERIN HAS CHEAPENED TALK RADIO

Here are just a couple of quotes from it, the full letter is here:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ed...cles/2005/09/19/severin_cheapened_talk_radio/

Does Parklane's wife live in Millis? Enquiring minds want to know:

Severin cheapened talk radio

September 19, 2005

I AM A woman of few vices. I do not smoke, nor do I drink or take drugs. However, talk radio has become a very powerful addiction in my life.
Article Tools

I wish to thank Scot Lehigh for exposing Jay Severin for the phony that he is (''Severin's phony Pulitzer," op ed, Sept. 16). I stopped listening to Severin years ago when I got tired of his constant put-down to callers who disagreed with him.


LISA WYPYSZINSKI
Millis


I'm with you Lisa, GIVE HIM HELL!



> > Perhaps, it says more about us as listeners . Yeah,
> I'd
> > go along with that. Which is why I've never listened: not
> > one time. However I don't get too worked up over the name
> > change, be it official, or not (Larry King's is). No
> offence
> > but I don't think I'd want to be Jimmy Severino either,
> and
> > it's not a matter of confidence, just broadcast
> aesthetics.
> > The education additions and fake award, are a different
> > matter. But for those who call themselves fans, that
> > probably won't matter much either. Sweet dreams, Jaybird
> > III.
> >
>
> Perhaps, local media ass kissers like Dan "Big Phoney"
> Kennedy
> and Mark Jurkowitz put Jay way up there in the first place.
> Everyone
> bought into the myth this guy was such God's gift to talk
> radio.
> Even Matt Mills. Now, it turns out the guy is nothing but a
> complete
> and utter fraud. The guy has been a political consulant for
> much
> of his life and made a living in the business of fabricating
> facts for
> his clients. You think he'd be honest about his own
> achievements with a local
> radio audeince which thinks he's broadcasting from Boston?
> It's no
> big secret that Greater Media suits have no principles to
> employ a shady guy
> who misreprents everything about him, even the fact that
> he's live from
> NY, not Boston. Live and lying...
>
http://www.bostonphoenix.> com/boston/news_features/this_just_in/documents/00669439.htm
>

 

[parklane]

Re: Rejoinder II: To Cabradio

I have never met Jay Severin and can only judge him from what comes out of his mouth on the radio. So, I have nothing to "get back " about.

These on-air personalities live or die by what they say or do, just like politicians. If they don't want people to comment on their words or deeds as public figures may I respectfully suggest they enter immediately some cloistered religious or meditation order and no one will ever say a word about them again. Until then these on-air personalities cannot have it both ways: If they are going to attack they are going to have to deal with the reaction that generates.

As to saying something nice. "Nice" ;-)

Seriously, I think Jay Severin is a very bright person.

Peace

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> This website isn't here for people to trash on air
> personalities. There is something called Constructive
> Criticism. This is criticising with suggested improvements.
>
>
> This site isn't here as a means to discredit on air
> personalities either. If a talent has not been forth right,
> then a discussion can ensue, however to brow beat the
> viewers of this site gives the impression that all you want
> to do is "get back" at someone for something.
>
> Post something nice for a change.
>

 

[cabradio]

Re: Rejoinder II: To Cabradio

You are misconstruing what I said.

I didn't say that they aren't to be held accountable. They are. And for obvious reasons. But when people start getting into inconsequencial details, such as what his name really is, or whether someone wears a hair piece etc., ...posts start to degrade. My point is that this SITE is for constructive criticism, not a place to be degrading and demeaning about anyone. Bringing up things that are really irrelevant and trying to turn them into an issue causes disruption. Over on the Providence board a user tried to slip in a comment that was completely irrelevant to the post. I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about. Anyway...keep it relevant, keep it constructive (as much as possible). I realize sometimes some things need to be said and being constructive just doesn't work....



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[parklane]

Re: Rejoinder II: To Cabradio

Jay was playing with fire and it was not unexpected that he might be injured with self inflicted burns.


> You are misconstruing what I said.
>
> I didn't say that they aren't to be held accountable. They
> are. And for obvious reasons. But when people start getting
> into inconsequencial details, such as what his name really
> is, or whether someone wears a hair piece etc., ...posts
> start to degrade. My point is that this SITE is for
> constructive criticism, not a place to be degrading and
> demeaning about anyone. Bringing up things that are really
> irrelevant and trying to turn them into an issue causes
> disruption. Over on the Providence board a user tried to
> slip in a comment that was completely irrelevant to the
> post. I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about.
> Anyway...keep it relevant, keep it constructive (as much as
> possible). I realize sometimes some things need to be said
> and being constructive just doesn't work....
>

 

[WVCAfan]

> But that was in the late 1940's and 50's when anti- semitism was still rampant.

I remember when the late Simon Geller told me that after he graduated Northeastern and asked about a job in radio, the guidance counselor told him bluntly "I can't place Jews." So he looked around for an open frequency and started a station himself.

 

[Roach1978]

Re: Rejoinder II: To Cabradio

> Jay was playing with fire and it was not unexpected that he
> might be injured with self inflicted burns.
>
>
> > You are misconstruing what I said.
> >
> > I didn't say that they aren't to be held accountable. They
>
> > are. And for obvious reasons. But when people start
> getting
> > into inconsequencial details, such as what his name really
>
> > is, or whether someone wears a hair piece etc., ...posts
> > start to degrade. My point is that this SITE is for
> > constructive criticism, not a place to be degrading and
> > demeaning about anyone. Bringing up things that are really
>
> > irrelevant and trying to turn them into an issue causes
> > disruption. Over on the Providence board a user tried to
> > slip in a comment that was completely irrelevant to the
> > post. I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about.
> > Anyway...keep it relevant, keep it constructive (as much
> as
> > possible). I realize sometimes some things need to be said
>
> > and being constructive just doesn't work....
> >
>


First off - those that live in glass houses should not throw stones.

2ed, as much as I hate Jay "whatever-his-name-is" and want to punch my radio when I hear his voice - I think parklane's obsession with him (YES - 5 THREADS in 4 DAYS on the SAME TOPIC count as an obsession) is getting old.

I personally think he's a fraud - and anyone with some time can go fact finding on stuff about him rather easially.

Some people like him (obviously since he is getting ratings from someone), and other (such as myself and obviously parklane) don't - can we just leave it at that.

Thanks
Roach