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jay severin.com

> Of course. Did you think Entercom was trying to run their
> station into bankruptcy?

Indeed. Again, like the first episode of WKRP in Cincinnatti said,
"Young man, this radio station is a BUSINESS. It is not here for
your personal listening pleasure."


> Please. The suits don't care about the politics on the air,
> they care about the station's bottom line.

Exactly!


> Limbaugh draws in about 20 Million people weekly. Not too
> shabby by my book, perhaps it is by yours. So what do you
> think of Air America's numbers?

AAR doesn't know how to run a business. The following is from an interview
of Limbaugh done by Hannity and Colmes:


LIMBAUGH: I started radio in 1967 and you never talked about the competition. You just never did. You didn't elevate them. You didn't promote them. You didn't give them credence. You didn't give them viability. You didn't even establish that they were alive.

And it's fascinating to me to watch liberal radio attempt. They think, I think, that you just announce you're going to start, and you'll get 20 million people and so forth. I find it fascinating they cannot make themselves a commercial success. They're already now out begging their listeners to send in money doing the NPR rip-off.

And I don't think they have, as liberals, the slightest understanding of the commercial aspects of the success that it takes in radio, particularly talk radio. They're in funding, and donations and stealing money from little boys and girls clubs and so forth — not stealing it, but having strange transactions go on there and so forth.

You look at them and, for a moment, you almost feel sorry for them. Then you realize, "No, they don't exist." And they don't pose a threat. I mean, they don't have an understanding of what works on radio. They don't understand about how the business works. They have no business model whatsoever.

They got a bunch of political activists to put it together rather than businesspeople. It's just fascinating to watch this thing flow on. But the most amazing thing about it is to watch how it is portrayed as a success by those who champion it elsewhere in the media.

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> And I don't think they have, as liberals, the slightest
> understanding of the commercial aspects of the success that
> it takes in radio, particularly talk radio.

Liberals don't know how to run radio? Jeff Smulyan, the CEO of Emmis Communications, is the Democrat who invented sports radio. Yes, he's made some bad moves in his career (Seattle Mariners), but who hasn't (certain prescription drugs.....).

Air America had a crappy business plan. I don't see any liberals denying that. Evan Cohen has no idea of the finances needed to start a successful operation.

But too many conservatives look at the failures of Air America as the failure of the Democratic party. The democratic party is a belief. Air America is a business.
 
> No I think it was just set up so nobody could get their
> hands on it...though someone found a way around it and set
> up an anti-Jay site called jayseverin.net

I think you mean jayseverin.org. There's nothing at jayseverin.net.

And that "someone" is Rich Aucoin, former Libertarian candidate for lt. governor. Why he'd want to attack the local radio personality who is probably more closely aligned with his beliefs than any other in the market is a mystery to me aside from the fact that the LP is somewhat cultish in its adherence to the party line.
 
> But too many conservatives look at the failures of Air
> America as the failure of the Democratic party. The
> democratic party is a belief. Air America is a business.

And many liberals seem to think they are ideologically bound to support Air America no matter how bad a product they produce. If you doubt me just take a glance at the news/talk board on this web site.
 
Liberals and business

> > And I don't think they have, as liberals, the slightest
> > understanding of the commercial aspects of the success
> that
> > it takes in radio, particularly talk radio.
>
> Liberals don't know how to run radio? Jeff Smulyan, the CEO
> of Emmis Communications, is the Democrat who invented sports
> radio. Yes, he's made some bad moves in his career (Seattle
> Mariners), but who hasn't (certain prescription drugs.....).
>
>
> Air America had a crappy business plan. I don't see any
> liberals denying that. Evan Cohen has no idea of the
> finances needed to start a successful operation.
>
> But too many conservatives look at the failures of Air
> America as the failure of the Democratic party. The
> democratic party is a belief. Air America is a business.

I could not agree with you more. IF you watch the HBO America Undercover doc on Air America it is clear that they had NO business plan, none of any substance. That is not a liberal trait that is a bad business trait which is not exclusive to liberals, I doubt that the Ken Lay's of the world voted for Kerry. Air America is a great idea poorly executed, period. In that regard it does correlate to the Democratic party, great ideas that many dont know about because they cant learn the business of elections, it means nothing if you have great ideas if you cant win an election to implement them so Rush and company can link the failure and falterings of air america to the democratic party because yes in some circles they are seen as synonymous, mostly by design by the Limbaugh's of the world.

Evan Cohen certainly ruined the better part of the operation but that has less to do with the alleged failure of air america as does the proiduct. They put together a bad product, a bunch of people who shared the same ideology but have no idea what it takes to produce good radio, even Franken who compared to the fire and brimstone of Limbaugh and O'reilly is very bland. The only one with any radio chops is Rhodes whose experience is medium market and nothing more and she sounds it. Business is Business, radio is a business and like it or not that is all that they're in it for exceopt that Air America started as an ideology that has tried to convert into a business and unfortunately that is the worst way to go about it as it has to survive as a business to continue to distribute it's ideology.
>
 
Re: Liberals and business

Frish wrote on the WEEI thread:
Why would you think they would implode? they're strong so far. You dont strike anyone as a sports fan so why are you listening?. Bravado is a huge part of macho, heterosexual, sports culture, have one of your friends explain it to you.

FRISH - your post is rife with know-it-all "bravado".
Fact is - Air America should have been launched the minute Rush Limbaugh started gaining new stations. They can be faulted for being Johnny come latelys. Jones Radio Network and Air America are surviving - and in this climate of television networks censoring anti-Republican concerns (like showing the flag draped remains of our hero soldiers), thank God we have alternative outlets.

Frish - who are you? What is your resume? It is easy to pontificate from behind a curtain. This is just my opinion - i don't claim to know all - I just know what I like and can see the truth.

>
> I could not agree with you more. IF you watch the HBO
> America Undercover doc on Air America it is clear that they
> had NO business plan, none of any substance. That is not a
> liberal trait that is a bad business trait which is not
> exclusive to liberals, I doubt that the Ken Lay's of the
> world voted for Kerry. Air America is a great idea poorly
> executed, period. In that regard it does correlate to the
> Democratic party, great ideas that many dont know about
> because they cant learn the business of elections, it means
> nothing if you have great ideas if you cant win an election
> to implement them so Rush and company can link the failure
> and falterings of air america to the democratic party
> because yes in some circles they are seen as synonymous,
> mostly by design by the Limbaugh's of the world.
>
> Evan Cohen certainly ruined the better part of the operation
> but that has less to do with the alleged failure of air
> america as does the proiduct. They put together a bad
> product, a bunch of people who shared the same ideology but
> have no idea what it takes to produce good radio, even
> Franken who compared to the fire and brimstone of Limbaugh
> and O'reilly is very bland. The only one with any radio
> chops is Rhodes whose experience is medium market and
> nothing more and she sounds it. Business is Business, radio
> is a business and like it or not that is all that they're in
> it for exceopt that Air America started as an ideology that
> has tried to convert into a business and unfortunately that
> is the worst way to go about it as it has to survive as a
> business to continue to distribute it's ideology.
> >
>
 
I don't understand this, maybe because I'm new. Is this another attack on
Joseph_Gallant?

>
> In ten years, Limbaugh will be thought of as the prime mover
> in the development of modern talk radio and will still have
> millions of listeners if he chooses to stay on the air,
> whereas you will still be a public access show host.
>

Public Access is one of the last areas of free speech. It takes more than a zip code to go through the training and deal with the rules and regulations,
all which vary from state to state. I lived out of state for many years and just returned to Boston - the difficulties in launching an access show are many, but the benefits for professionals outweigh the problems - and the condescending attitude like this post for "Coolidge".

Some access hosts utilize the camera to create content, then sell the interviews to national publications. That takes hard work. A lot easier than little jib jabs from behind a curtain on the internet. My 2 cents on this.
 
Re: Liberals and business

> Frish - who are you?

come now. doesn't take a WIZARD to figure that one out.
 
> I don't understand this, maybe because I'm new. Is this
> another attack on
> Joseph_Gallant?

No.



> Public Access is one of the last areas of free speech. It
> takes more than a zip code to go through the training and
> deal with the rules and regulations,
> all which vary from state to state.

Right.



> curtain on the internet. My 2 cents on this.

Well, you get what you pay for.
 
by all objective standards, Franken sucks on the radio. He could be good if he wasn't so convinced of his own excellence based on his TV experience and would work at learning what makes a talk host successful, but he thinks we want to hear him say ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh all the time.



> > > Give Franken a bigger platform and even he, with his
> yawns
> >
> > > and his pauses, will develop a following.
> >
> > Unlikely.
>
> Admit it: NOBODY can shuffle papers on air the way Rush
> does :)
>
>
> > In ten years, Limbaugh will be thought of as the prime
> mover
> > in the development of modern talk radio and will still
> have
> > millions of listeners if he chooses to stay on the air,
> > whereas you will still be a public access show host.
> >
> Rush--and the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine--helped talk
> radio
> take off. Someday the liberals may get "their Rush" but I
> get the
> feeling Stuart Smalley isn't that person...
>
 
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