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Jazz Tulsa

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Jazz_Kat

Hello everyone, I'm usually a reader and poster on the smooth jazz forum, but thought you all would be better to answer this question since you are in the area. ;D

What happened to Jazz Tulsa 107.9? I haven't been able to get on their website in the last couple of days and I don't what/if anything had happen with them. I know a couple of our (smooth jazz stations) have flipped this week and didn't know if this was another.

http://www.jazztulsa.org/

Any help would be great. :)
 
I heard some Christian oldies and talk shows on there today...
 
Besides the changed call-sign (KJZT-LP to KFMY-LP) at the top of the hour, I'm hearing no IDs of any kind.

I'm not recognizing a ton of the music they're playing, although it's certainly mainstream CCM. Two they've played I did recognize include Kim Hill - Unspoken Love from her debut album in '88 or '89, and Russ Taff - I'm Not Alone from '85.

With the calls change, I'd say this is permanent -- although I don't see any indication in the FCC Records of a change of ownership. The calls change was approved March 1st.

To my ears, they had significantly drifted (for better or worse) from their originally stated goals of providing jazz for Tulsa. In recent months, they'd sounded more like a VERY light modern AC... and not appealing to my ears at all.

My wife, on the other hand, will be pretty disappointed.

94.9, at least, is still in mono. Considering signal limitations, I think that makes sense.

...Well, I and some friends have thought in the past that a classic CCM would be a nice addition to the market... now we get to see if the idea had any merit (on somebody else's dime, no less!).

While we still have 103.7 ( we DO, don't we???), I'm sorry to see the Tulsa market without a clear jazz signal.
 
Thank you for the information. It ws very helpful. :)
 
If people want traditional jazz it would benit them greatly to invest in a HD radio and listen to on of the UNiv of Tulsa stations. I don't see them giving up jazz anytime soon on their secondary channel. I'm guessing that cd103.7 will be around for a while. The ownership is fairly dedicated to the format. With that being said, I find it pretty odd what they are doing in the morning on 103.7 lately. I don't see how a dry talk show in the morning and smooth jazz the rest of the time can be a very good combination.
 
I wish KGOU/KROU could put on an HD2 with full time jazz, though their jazz they do some evenings is pretty good. My guess is that their signal is weak enough in much of the metro that they don't see it worth the cost to broadcast in HD.
 
Bingo. The analog signal is minimal enough that putting on an HD signal would probably just be a dissapointment to most due to lack of coverage. Both of their facilites could use some altitude IMHO to help their signal a bit. There's some places that their two signals don't work ver good, right in okc.
 
Jazz Tulsa is definitely gone. I've been streaming it, and I heard an ID. It said, "This is Tulsa's newest radio station. Celebrating Faith and Family, 107.9 KFMY."
 
I visited the cached page on Google, which still had the old Jazz Tulsa page with the streaming link.

The address of the stream is: mms://stream1.securenetsystems.net/KJZT.
 
By golly! That did the trick, nice & loud, & stereo, too.

Interesting that they've updated the player with the new calls... sounds like they expect to get another page up & running, the stream wasn't just forgotten.

Amusing: this page correctly lists the current artist & title, although they still list the station as jazz, & say a stream isn't available! Wonder where they're pulling the info from...

UPDATE: They just announced the website -- http://kfmyradio.com

Right now it's just a Go Daddy placeholder, but I assume the site will go live later today.

...Anybody else think the guy doing the IDs sounds like a former KXOJ DJ? I haven't been able to place which one yet... but he sounds familiar.

And you're right, "Celebrating Faith & Family" seems to be their slogan of choice.
 
Dag nab it, Bryan, don't post when I'm posting!

...It corn-fuses me. ;D

I'm also hearing them say this is a "preview," and that they're doing "favorites of yesterday & today," which means they may be a gold based CCM AC, but still an AC.

Going up against KXOJ with those two almost-signals doesn't seem like the brightest move, but maybe they've gotten enough ministries to sign up to make it worth their while.

(...Did anybody post while I posted this?...)
 
It seems like they'd be beating a dead horse if they tried the God-Channel route. Spirit didn't cut it, and that was a big signal. Oh well... People and their ideas of what will work in radio never cease to amaze me.
 
To be fair, regarding Spirit, "the way I heard it," Spirit did VERY well, billing like crazy, they just didn't reach the level in the time they were on the air that Atlanta said they required to keep the format.

The numbers were decent, but the grapevine says the billing was HUGE. Just not enough to keep staff (& apparently they didn't miss Atlanta's goal by much).

Perhaps the owners of 107.9 think there are people who won't spend money with KXOJ but did spend money with Spirit who will spend money with them.

I don't know, & if they do believe that, I don't know that they're right.

I don't know that they're not right, either.

The sad part of this (if it doesn't work) is that this is what some of us have been begging and pleading for on these boards: local, community radio. No shareholders interference, no corporate offices in another time zone, no millions of dollars on the line... yet the result here may not be much different from various corporate train-wrecks we've all watched.

That truly disappoints me. If all-local doesn't solve the problem, I don't know how to solve it.
 
Although I'd like to believe that a truely local owner would do a better job, I've seen plenty of evidence many times where they don't. What generally doesn't work is McRadio where stations are part of a huge chain with a local manager that doesn't have much say so in how things roll.... only a caretaker. Tulsa and OKC has a guy in charge of CC that has some ability to make things happen where in other markets they seem to not be able to. Before he showed up, things were in poor shape. Because their corporate has faith he'll do the right thing, he's allowed to do the right thing more so than the previous managers. It's sort of strange how that works out really.

There are at least a couple local owners in this state I wouldn't want to work for. They make bizzare decisions and don't seem to really treat people right. With that being said, big corporate in many cases isn't great either. I think the true thing is having people that still enjoy being RADIO people as owners. They are few and far between these days. Some of the better radio that came out of OKC over the years was actually owned by someone in a different state. But, they actually gave a damn what went out the speakers and tried to treat their help fairly. The money eventually will come when you do that the right way. The faciest equipment in the nicest high-rise buildings won't buy you a damn thing. What will buy you something is enough talented people to get the job done with tools that actually work, and an ownership/management team that cares.
 
what about the new jazz station 103.7, they are giving it a go anyway, I heard they wanted to be both an Oklahoma City and a Tulsa station...have you heard them?
 
Good radio works. Bad radio doesn't. It's really that simple. Radio doesn't have to be live or local to be good, nor does it have to be owned by a mom and pop. If all you're going to do is give the time and temperature whenever you crack the mic to prove you're live, you might as well save your money and voicetrack. Live and local radio done only for the sake of being live and local is bad radio, and the audience knows it.

There's a reason Clear Channel stations are usually in the middle of the pack in the ratings. They usually have a strong competitor with good talent running the show. Often, that's a local broadcaster with most, if not all, of the airstaff live and local, too. Those stations fire on all cylinders and are far better than much of the piped in voicetracking on many Clear Channel stations. As has been mentioned before, Cox Radio is very successful in Tulsa because it produces a polished and consistent sound. While the jocks don't get a lot of talk time, you very rarely hear bad breaks. Everything the jocks say is in tune with what the audience wants. However, there are also plenty of stations with live and local staff who simply aren't very good and, thus, lag behind Clear Channel.

One thing that can be said for KFMY-LP is that it's probably not out to make money hand over fist. While I'm sure it's not going to settle for operating at a loss, it's a non-commercial operation that's supposed to have other goals than just raking in money. It probably isn't as bottom line focused in the battle against KXOJ as Cox was with KKCM.
 
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