Jeff K New Morning Guy on KDGE

[Radio6]

I looked, but it seems this has yet to be discussed. It isn't on the front page of the website yet, but if you click through to his DJ page, -- http://www.kdge.com/pages/jeffk.html -- you will see:

WAKE UP WITH MUSIC ON THE EDGE!
I'm honored and thrilled to take on Mornings on THE EDGE, especially if it means playing more MUSIC for your ride to work! Of course you'll still get plenty of music and entertainment news, sports updates, traffic and weather (courtesy of Anna deHaro) but did I mention MUSIC!!! Tell your friends! Seriously please tell them, no, really tell them all NOW, send a mass email or something, go, now, DO IT!

Not bad. Music, Jeff K. Wow, is this really CC? Is this really CC in Dallas? Congrats, Jeff. I may no longer be in the market, but will definitely tune in when I am in town.

 

[johnqdoe]

sounds like typical Jeff K propaganda. Trust him...He's the coolest guy in the room.

 

[Radio6]

Ahh, another johnqdoe drive-by special. To use your own words from another thread, "wow [johnqdoe]...that was a refreshing and original post"

Thanks for stopping by.

 

[johnqdoe]

awwww I know and like Jeff K...just not as much as he likes himself. But he is an ok guy

 

[Radio6]

That's cool, man. I'm surprised no one has any other opinions. Local (L&T doesn't count) morning show, more music - I would think this a good thing. Of course, CC could have just come to terms with Jagger a few years ago and never gone through this whole mess, but hey, there were books to balance. I'm sure Jeff K works cheaper than Jagger. We'll see how the ratings go.

 

[johnny_letter]

This is really good news. The thing that I really like about Jeff K is that he is above all else a music fan.

 

[johnqdoe]

you are right about Jeff bein a music fan Johnny. But I havent seen any release or "official" announcement. He does have a full time gig with the Stars. Prolly not much crossover with time....But that leaves no time for livin life. IF they are goin with Jeff and tunes, then I hope the Edge does well and we can get more of the AM yucksters off the air!

 

[guy_gadbois]

I know that Jeff doesn't have total control of the what gets played, but I heard Nickelback this morning. Nickelback is NOT alternative in any shape or form. I hope he gets more control over what gets played in the mornings.

 

[MikeShannon914]

You can say that after what happened with him calling the musical shots at The Bone? We had two initial months of a damn good classic rock station before he turned it into his Personal Jukebox.

 

[charles123]

I know that Jeff doesn't have total control of the what gets played, but I heard Nickelback this morning. Nickelback is NOT alternative in any shape or form. I hope he gets more control over what gets played in the mornings.

Nickelback is a alternative rock band, but they're also a Mainstream rock band too.

 

[Gabba Gabba Hey!]

Personally, I don't understand the decision to get him. He did nothing for THE BONE. I was amazed, not in a good way, with something he told me once, a programming theory of his, when I was asked to send them some stuff for a open air slot they had. However, maybe he has changed his thinking...maybe this time things will be different.

 

[rebelrawker83]

From what I understand, Jeff's background is in New Wave and Alternative. I think that is why he had a problem with programming at The Bone. I will admit that he tried to broaden the playlist by playing deep cuts. The problem was that the deep cuts chosen for on air were not the cuts that should have been played (especially the WASP tune that played unedited, F bombs an all..and no..it was not F*&# like a Beast...it was some tune I had never even heard).

I look for the morning slot on Edge to be a temporary thing. Jeff was already doing the traffic, so leaving him there for now would be the obvious thing to do. I am sure Vince has a morning show in mind. I think the status of the CC sale has many things on hold and many budgets being tightened. How else would you explain VT Middays and Nights on one station in market #5?

 

[OzzyStillbourne]

The W.A.S.P. tune was ''Mean Man.''

 

[little1]

Personally, I don't understand the decision to get him. He did nothing for THE BONE. I was amazed, not in a good way, with something he told me once, a programming theory of his, when I was asked to send them some stuff for a open air slot they had. However, maybe he has changed his thinking...maybe this time things will be different.

What's the theory?

And I have a hard time holding the Bone's non success on Jeff K. Crappy morning show (Either one, Walton and Johnson or Bo Roberts - (who someone who used to work there told me that dude was just killing time at the Bone-showed up 5 minutes before he was due on the air, out the door 5 minutes after the show, did no prep, etc etc), )crappy music mix- etc etc... as goes mornings, so goes the rest of the day...

(And by crappy music mix, I'd like to know what brain surgeon decided on a format heavy on the hair metal...from research I've seen, people who love hair metal love it, but people who hate it, HATE IT with a vengenance- and there's not that many people who love it...So you're limiting your audience #1, and playing a style that doesn't draw others in #2...At least with generic classic rock, people who like other styles have respect for the Zepplins, Hendrix's, etc... Some kid who rocks, who is into, let's say, Kid Rock will sit through the immigrant song, but some middle aged dude into the immigrant song probably doesn't dig WASP, Ratt, etc...

 

[rebelrawker83]

I'll have to download...I mean....find that. I only heard it that one time and was not impressed.

 

[johnny_letter]

I know that Jeff doesn't have total control of the what gets played, but I heard Nickelback this morning. Nickelback is NOT alternative in any shape or form. I hope he gets more control over what gets played in the mornings.

Nickelback is a alternative rock band, but they're also a Mainstream rock band too.

..and that is not good. As much as I like some 'Grunge' era artists like Nirvana, Soundgarden, etc., Grunge killed the Alternative format. Back before 1991 or so, alternative meant Talking Heads, The Church, Jesus And Mary Chain, Echo and the Bunnymen, R.E.M., Depeche Mode, U2, etc. Since the early 90's, Alternative or Modern Rock has gone into too much of a hard rock direction. Some stations like WWCD (Columbus), WFNX (Boston) and KDLD (LA) do get it right.

 

[Gabba Gabba Hey!]

Personally, I don't understand the decision to get him. He did nothing for THE BONE. I was amazed, not in a good way, with something he told me once, a programming theory of his, when I was asked to send them some stuff for a open air slot they had. However, maybe he has changed his thinking...maybe this time things will be different.

What's the theory?

I should back up a little... I miss spoke when I said Programming theory. However, it came down to me simply asking if THE BONE was going to try to cash in on the local music scene. Personally, I feel a station should at least attempt to make it apart of your being. However, I was quickly told that was not going to happen. Now, I know most would probably not see that as a bad thing etc... But like I said, I was just taken a back by it. To me, it just seems like your cutting yourself short by not even letting that be an option. I mean at least make it look like you do. I just see it as an extention of the station... that you can use to maybe bring more people to you. It's the same thing as saying... We don't mess with the station website much.

Why wouldn't you?

But like I said.... this is just a personal opinion.

 

[little1]

it might all come down to demographics, or psychographics or what have you-graphics. I'm guessing that you're talking about the Bone during their hard rock days- I bet that it would be easy to discover from the most basic research, that the number of people that listen to a style of music far outweighs the number of people who would go to see that band in concert...Much less a band in that style.
For example, let's say I like listening to def leppard. does that translate into me wanting to spend 100 bucks to see them in concert? Does the fact that I like one band that has a song where a guy starts sings in german mean I'm going to like the Scorpions and their music?
Probably not. there's a lot of bands I like listening to that I'd be hesitant to drop a 'Benjamin' on to see live.

now drop that to the local scene- if "Local Band" can't sell out some bar or nightclub, why do I want to asscoiate myself with them? Just to be known as the local music station? What does being known as the local music station get me? Your average bar band doesn't have a ton of money to spend buying advertising (which remember, is our real focus on most stations), right?

Not to mention that odds are your "local music fans" for the most part are probably 18-25. And if your target demo is 25-54 (or a cell even higher in that range) what does spending a lot of time promoting that you're the local music station get you? Maybe some loyal fans 3-5-7 years down the road as those people age into your target demo, but then along comes an Eagle and screws up those well laid plans....

I hear what you're saying, and for the right station at the right time being the local music station can make sense. I just don't think the bone was that station...

 

[Gabba Gabba Hey!]

it might all come down to demographics, or psychographics or what have you-graphics. I'm guessing that you're talking about the Bone during their hard rock days- I bet that it would be easy to discover from the most basic research, that the number of people that listen to a style of music far outweighs the number of people who would go to see that band in concert...Much less a band in that style.
For example, let's say I like listening to def leppard. does that translate into me wanting to spend 100 bucks to see them in concert? Does the fact that I like one band that has a song where a guy starts sings in german mean I'm going to like the Scorpions and their music?
Probably not. there's a lot of bands I like listening to that I'd be hesitant to drop a 'Benjamin' on to see live.

now drop that to the local scene- if "Local Band" can't sell out some bar or nightclub, why do I want to asscoiate myself with them? Just to be known as the local music station? What does being known as the local music station get me? Your average bar band doesn't have a ton of money to spend buying advertising (which remember, is our real focus on most stations), right?

Not to mention that odds are your "local music fans" for the most part are probably 18-25. And if your target demo is 25-54 (or a cell even higher in that range) what does spending a lot of time promoting that you're the local music station get you? Maybe some loyal fans 3-5-7 years down the road as those people age into your target demo, but then along comes an Eagle and screws up those well laid plans....

I hear what you're saying, and for the right station at the right time being the local music station can make sense. I just don't think the bone was that station...

Totally understandable. However, at least have a webpage on your site that has a listing of LOCAL MUSIC... something. That way if someone is looking for something to do.... now you can say that you got the 411 on whats happening in the city. YES, I know that its a big city.... that would be alot to cover.... but still.... at least try.

However, once again. I do understand what you are saying.

 

[johnqdoe]

it might all come down to demographics, or psychographics or what have you-graphics. I'm guessing that you're talking about the Bone during their hard rock days- I bet that it would be easy to discover from the most basic research, that the number of people that listen to a style of music far outweighs the number of people who would go to see that band in concert...Much less a band in that style.
For example, let's say I like listening to def leppard. does that translate into me wanting to spend 100 bucks to see them in concert? Does the fact that I like one band that has a song where a guy starts sings in german mean I'm going to like the Scorpions and their music?
Probably not. there's a lot of bands I like listening to that I'd be hesitant to drop a 'Benjamin' on to see live.

now drop that to the local scene- if "Local Band" can't sell out some bar or nightclub, why do I want to asscoiate myself with them? Just to be known as the local music station? What does being known as the local music station get me? Your average bar band doesn't have a ton of money to spend buying advertising (which remember, is our real focus on most stations), right?

Not to mention that odds are your "local music fans" for the most part are probably 18-25. And if your target demo is 25-54 (or a cell even higher in that range) what does spending a lot of time promoting that you're the local music station get you? Maybe some loyal fans 3-5-7 years down the road as those people age into your target demo, but then along comes an Eagle and screws up those well laid plans....

I hear what you're saying, and for the right station at the right time being the local music station can make sense. I just don't think the bone was that station...

Totally understandable. However, at least have a webpage on your site that has a listing of LOCAL MUSIC... something. That way if someone is looking for something to do.... now you can say that you got the 411 on whats happening in the city. YES, I know that its a big city.... that would be alot to cover.... but still.... at least try.

However, once again. I do understand what you are saying.

If you have alink on the website and talk about it on the air...then you need to do SOMETHING to try and back it up. It seems these days there are as many cover/tribute bands than local original talent. Not that the tribute bands don't have talent...Some are very good....AND very smart. Would you rather make a couple thousand a show at a clean place like Firewater...or a couple hundred on some dingy tiny Deep Ellum stage? It's kinda sad....but true